tchou-qui
9 posts
Dec 08, 2010
9:22 AM
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Would it be possible and or recommended to take a Hohner MS Harp, Key of C, and change the plates to make it a Low C?
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tchou-qui
10 posts
Dec 08, 2010
9:38 AM
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Or any other key for that matter, Basically does the comb care what key the plates are?
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nacoran
3370 posts
Dec 08, 2010
11:40 AM
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I don't know about the MS line, but some harps move to shorter slots about Db. I had a Low F I was going to put on a custom comb. The reeds were too long. I had to use a Db for the comb instead.
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groyster1
573 posts
Dec 08, 2010
1:19 PM
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what in the world would you want a low c for?????
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Todd Parrott
202 posts
Dec 08, 2010
1:27 PM
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I use a low C Hohner from time to time. It works well on certain acoustic blues tunes.
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MP
1091 posts
Dec 08, 2010
1:44 PM
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i looked at several HOHNER dealers sites and though they all had MS series replacement plates in the keys of low D Eb E F and F#, i saw no low C plates. odd.
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isaacullah
1286 posts
Dec 08, 2010
2:12 PM
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Low C doesn't seem to be available for the Hohner handmades either. AFAICT you can only get one for Seydel these days, and they cost more than a harp in the Low D through normal E range.
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tchou-qui
11 posts
Dec 08, 2010
2:14 PM
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I have an extra C that has developed a rattle on the 1 blow. So I figured why not have a low C to play with since I was going to change the reeds anyway. I know the low F sounds much better than the regular F when playing cajun music so what about the C.
MP yeah I noticed that too, that's a bummer. I'm thinking about writing them a letter about that.
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Todd Parrott
203 posts
Dec 08, 2010
7:16 PM
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I have been told that the lower key Hohners will be available in the near future. Buddy Greene also uses a low C Marine Band which was a custom from Joe Filisko. You can also tune down a low D to a low C, or just buy a Seydel for the time being.
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Ant138
683 posts
Dec 09, 2010
2:40 AM
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Ive just bought two Hetrick custom wood combs for two special 20's ive got in low F and Low D. Do you think they will fit the low harps??
I didnt consider they may not fit the low keys, yikes!!!
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jim
505 posts
Dec 09, 2010
2:45 AM
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All Seydel models except the Solist/Solist pro are produced in LC.
With Hohners, only 364/365 are available (which are hardly playable due to giant size)
You can get an MB in LD and tune it down
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Ant138
684 posts
Dec 09, 2010
3:02 AM
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@jim, do you know the reason why Seydel don't have the low keys in the Solist Pro?
The Solist pro is my harp of choice besides the 1847. The only reason i have the Special 20's in the low keys is because Seydel don't have the Solist Pros in the low keys:o(
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jim
506 posts
Dec 09, 2010
4:19 AM
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Solist Pro covers are not suited for low keys.
. the reedplates are 100% like on Blues Favorite, only brass - not german silver. So you can buy a favorite reedplate + SP comb + any covers you want + screws.
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MP
1093 posts
Dec 09, 2010
9:14 AM
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Ant,
SP/20 combs are one size fits all. your hetrick combs will definately fit. they are a little tall for my taste(i have two) but are overall not bad combs for the price.
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Ant138
685 posts
Dec 09, 2010
9:43 AM
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@ MP:Thanks thats good to know, i thought i might have bought the wrong combs. I only play Special 20's in the low keys so i would have had no use for them.
@jim: thanks for the info, i might try that:o)
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Swezey8
44 posts
Dec 09, 2010
9:45 AM
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@ Ant,
I put a Hetrick comb on a Sp20 Low D and it fit fine. Looks and sounds good so no worries!
@MP,
I agree with them being almost too thick. I put in two separate orders. The first was a mahogany that I threw on a Sp20 A and I really like it. Ended up sanding the tines round as they protruded over the reedplate too far for my taste and that helped, but I like the feel of wood vs plastic and they seem very tight. Then I got two more (bocote and purple heart) and they both felt too tall in the mouth. A/B'd them to the first comb and they are noticeably thicker. IDK if they changed their milling process or if its different on different woods but it's just an observation.
They're still nice to look and and play well, just take some getting used to and I haven't put in the time to do that. We'll see if I order any more, if so it'll probably be a bit in the future. Woulda asked Hetrick on here but he got himself kicked out pretty fast...
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MP
1094 posts
Dec 09, 2010
9:59 AM
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Swezey8,
yeah, i missed all the commotion with Hetrick. seems like a nice guy to me. oh well.
yeah, i have to take down the teeth on my combs too. i think i'll bevel them also.
if i'm feel ambitious some sunday, i'll sand them down to a normal height and reseal them. maybe make them glossy too.
they are very good looking. i like the maple.
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nacoran
3378 posts
Dec 09, 2010
10:50 AM
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"what in the world would you want a low c for?????"-groyster
My low low F sounds like a saxophone. It's not real loud, but it's a thing of beauty.
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nacoran
3379 posts
Dec 09, 2010
2:31 PM
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Groyster, not a low F, a low low F! (I have a regular F, a low F and a Seydel LLF!) Different pitches sound shrill to different people, but it's not just about that. When you start getting into super low harps they sound almost like entirely different instruments. On the LLF the highest octave is the lowest octave on a regular F harmonica. For me the breaking point for shrillness comes at about the 7 hole on the regular F harp. That means I can use basically the whole Low F harmonica.
A regular C harmonica actually starts one octave lower than middle C (C3). On a regular F harmonica middle C is the lowest C (C4) you can play, so you aren't really in the middle of the scale.
The LLF also helped my playing. I got my first blow bend on it and was able to work my way back up from there.
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