That's a lot of sampling! But I think it is very well done and musical. Of course it would work for harp. Why not? Brandon Bailey is already doing this - sampling his human beat box" rhythms and adding harp.
This guy's style ain't MY THING but why wouldn't it work for harp? ---------- /Greg
Micha, I don't have a real pedal, but you can build tracks like that in Audacity. The upside to Audacity is you can edit out the beginning (the fart noises Little Joe is complaining about) but it's harder to build it in real time without pausing to use the mouse and whatnot compared to an actual pedal. I'm not great at it, but I have a lot of fun. I'll record a rhythm track with my low low F and then record a melody track over it with my Bb.
Of course it will work. Here's a couple things along those lines that I've done:
Mr Woodnote and DubFX, and several other artists that BD has filmed have been a major inspiration for me. Buy a looper and have at it! ---------- ------------------ View my videos on YouTube!"
PS, Nate, it's no use trying to convince folks like LittleJoe that even if they don't like this stuff, it's still good and valid music, and that it has value. I've gone round that track on here a few times before, and it's always frustrating. LittleJoe has made his stance very clear in several of his posts here, as have folks like DeltaDirt and a few others. While they are certainly entitled to their opinion about this or any other style of music, I find that, rather than make cogent arguments about what, in particular, they don't like about it, they love to make insidious comments such as "it sounds like farts" or that "it's not music", just to rile us up. I, for one, refuse to rise to their challenges anymore. Anyway, thank goodness for people like Greg Heumann, who can see the value in it, even though it's not their cup of tea. Good on ya Greg! ---------- ------------------ View my videos on YouTube!"
Nate...I agree with you. The vid you provided @ 12:58 is MUCH better. Genre bending is fine. Many styles have developed, been improved on, invented thru improv. I even do it myself on occasion. Emily Wells reminds me of Enya or Yma Sumac.
Heck... I like Moby and Dinosaur Jr. I thought some of the most inventive music recently was done by Jellyfish and thought Brad Nowell's early stuff really good. I don't remember hearing any harp with them.
@nacoran Although they do not use loops in their playing the saxaphone one you prefer is very similar to some of the music in New Zealand. In particular 'Shapeshifter' (not 'the shapeshifters' they are a European band). The two albums i would recommend would be 'shapeshifter live' and 'the system is a vampire'. This sort of music is fun to play to on harmonica. Two other local bands that are slightly different are Fat freddys drop and Salmonella Dub. This sort of music is not internationally recognised (i dont think) but is great to play to and which is where i think my style of playing is leading me.
Last Edited by on Jul 08, 2010 3:19 PM
Hah LJSamson, I think the first minute sounds nice as an intro to the rest. On a loop, it seems like you need to make some layers before it starts to come together.
Yup Nacoran the vid with dubFX is very good, he is passing through here in September. This is also very nice, but you probably have seen int already:
Isaacullah: nice vibe going on there, sounds good!
New Zealand: Wow! Love the shapeshifter vids! I need to get a new CD. NZ knows its music :-)
>... Audacity ... I'll record a rhythm track with my low low F and then record a melody track over it with my Bb.
Hi nacoran
The pitch shift function in Audacity works well. I use it constantly. So you could record a rhythm track with your Bb or other favourite harp then pitch shift it down to where ever you want it. The pitch shift doesn't alter speed. For those that don't have a low harp or wish to use another key, this is a great option.
What can be done is to record the track in Audacity. Export it in mp3 format. Then open the mp3 in Best Practice Freeware and play with pitch shifting or speed variation in real time, to get the desired parameters to pitch shift it.
Also in Best Practice, the track can be saved as altered in .wav format which can be dropped directly into Audacity for use. Especially useful if changing speed without effecting pitch. Because it's in real time, you can change the parameters as you work on your accompaniment.
Johnnie, yeah, I've done that too! There are a couple weird sounds you can get on a LLF that you can't get as easily by pitch shifting (or maybe it's just my LLF Seydel is a more airtight harp than my Lee Oskar Bb.) It's mostly percussive lip pops and such. Low harp sounds seem to decay slower than higher harps, but that can be fixed in Audacity too. Playing on a higher harp and shifting it down also gives you a more responsive harp to start with. It works better for really fast melodies.
