Stevelegh
900 posts
Jan 02, 2014
10:18 AM
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@HarpDude61: Nice one! The lady to your right is hawt!!!!
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harpdude61
1944 posts
Jan 02, 2014
11:11 AM
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Yea Steve that was a private event and it was waaaay fun. Many pretty ladies.
Laugh if you guys want to, but we have sort of become a "ladies night out" band. Lot's of single women from 35ish to 60ish are regulars with their groups come to our shows. I play it up. Greg's U-57 along with his wireless makes it easy to go out to mingle and dance with ladies. Since I don't sing and you can't play harp ALL the time it gives me something else to add to the show.
I grew up flat-footing or clogging, plus most rock dancing. Mojo and Folsom are great for that, plus jokes, b-days, and general fun.
It didn't take long to find out that playing harp in a good band can only take you so far. The big paying gigs around here are marinas and large clubs. They want much more than a fat 6 overblow. THey want great music and a good time!
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tookatooka
3590 posts
Jan 02, 2014
11:31 AM
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Jeez! Bet Grey Owl wasn't expecting all this?
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Stevelegh
901 posts
Jan 02, 2014
12:19 PM
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@Harpdude:
You sound like you've got it nailed. What you're doing is precisely why I got into the Funk / Disco thing. If you get the ladies up, the guys follow and you're made for the night.
Shame for me is that in my part of the world, the girls don't go for Blues or Rock, otherwise I was doing exactly what you're doing. Party band playing to over 35 ladies. You can't really wish for more.
Last Edited by Stevelegh on Jan 02, 2014 12:24 PM
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harpdude61
1945 posts
Jan 02, 2014
1:54 PM
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lol...Steve...I just have a good time. I always heard that it was tough to front a band as a non-singing harmonica player. I figured find a bass, guitar, and drummer that are all really good singers. I could front,talk, play, dance, and drink beer and have a good time.
So far so good. We call our shows Rockin Boogie Blues Parties!
I have a sample of my drummer singing Mojo if you want to look on my page. Party pix too. "Like" if you wish...we had a goal of 2000 by years end but just missed it.
www.facebook.com/catfishfryeband
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Seven.Oh.Three.
257 posts
Jan 03, 2014
8:47 AM
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According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary Homophobia is defined as "irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals"- This picture does not fit the explicit definition of homophobia. It could be construed as implying that the keyboard player is gay but it does not discriminate against him being gay which disqualifies it as homophobic. Even then you have to assume that's what the picture is implying because there isn't any indication as to what the relationship of the two males, depicted in the picture, is. So to say that this picture is homophobic is incorrect. You might be able to say that this picture walks the line of implying that keyboard players are gay but the evidence is inconclusive.
I'm more concerned with the fact that apparently as harmonica players we are required to own and wear a skirt. Furthermore, I wonder if any of the skirted images are in fact women but possibly kilted men which *could* indicate that all musicians explicitly associate with or are romantically involved with kilted men.
I say relax there's no discrimination depicted. But that's just my .02
7.o.3.
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HawkeyeKane
2236 posts
Jan 03, 2014
10:23 AM
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I dunno how or why it took me this long to discover what was going on in this thread. Believe it or not, a fellow harp player in my office building dropped by yesterday and mentioned it.
My take on the nookie-schematic? Homophobic? No. Misogynist? No. Promiscuous? Perhaps. Stereotypical? Definitely, but that doesn't make it untrue, and therefore makes one chuckle. I can honestly say I wouldn't mind a tshirt with that pictograph on it. It pretty much sums up what Adam mentioned before, and what Joe Seneca made famous for all of us back in 1986: "Where I come from...you don't blow no harp, you don't get no pussy."
And Duane....youse a lucky sumbitch! ;-)
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SuperBee
1607 posts
Jan 03, 2014
12:20 PM
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Sometimes youse gotsta dress up to get with them gay wimmins.
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Frank
3636 posts
Jan 03, 2014
12:54 PM
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Is'nt the membership mostly GAY on this site MBH ?
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nacoran
7464 posts
Jan 03, 2014
3:22 PM
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I'm always fascinated by how things are interpreted. I saw this on FB before I saw it here, and clicked like, and then looked at it more closely and decided I wasn't so sure. (I don't think I unliked it, but I didn't forward it here like my first instinct.)
What fascinates me is everyone so far has commented on whether it was homophobic or not, but not one person has noted that it seems to imply only men are musicians.
With that in mind, I present the 'All Straight Male Musician' version. People who belong to other sexual identities can post their own. I don't want to tread on dangerous ground. (Note that it may not be clear do to my poor drawing skills, but the lead guitar player's second date is the rhythm guitar player's girlfriend, because we all know lead guitar players do everything they can to break up the band. :)
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groyster1
2499 posts
Jan 03, 2014
3:35 PM
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of all posts that I have read,this is the most blown out of proportion thread I have seen....I enjoyed at first,but I guess I JUST DO NOT UNDERSTAND how people get the notions they do.....homophobic????WOW!!!!!!!!!!
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SuperBee
1609 posts
Jan 03, 2014
6:20 PM
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Well I see it as a variation on those ethnic-based jokes. You know, the sort of stuff which starts out with something like "there were 4 men on a train; an Englishman, a German, an American and an Irishman..." And goes on to poke fun at some common notion of their national character. English stuffiness, German stodginess, American insularity, Irish stupidity.
Sometimes these jokes put everyone down, sometimes they put all bar one down. But usually they're disrespectful of at least all bar one category.
The same idea of how humour works is in play. I don't think it's an oversight that the man plus harmonica equals 10 women but no man, but I'm not quite sure what it means. I doubt it's intended to be complimentary to harmonica players. But maybe.
I guess I assumed it's intended in that spirit of disrespectful humour. In which case it's not simply 'observational'; the observations are supposed to be disrespectfully humorous. Which would mean that in the case of gay keyboard players it's being humorous about them, which means that their supposed propensity to gayness is seen by the author as a thing which is amusing.
I think this is what mr rogonzab refers to, and I think it's fair enough. I dunno that it's fair enough he should be copping flack for mentioning it. And I guess by offering some support for his position I exposed myself to some flack also...and I accept you all may be right, it's possibly my cultural background which has led me to see that pointing out someone is gay in a context where that is meant to be funny, is akin to a put down rather than a simple observation.
And of course, jokes aren't serious, so it doesn't really mean much.
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Frank
3639 posts
Jan 03, 2014
6:21 PM
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groyster, it may help with understanding? :)
“a natural defense mechanism to avoid cognitive dissonance.”
Yale law professor Dan Kahan put together a study which essentially found that people were less likely to choose a mathematically correct answer if it went against their political beliefs. In other words, liberals and conservatives alike openly allowed their political beliefs to skew their own basic capacity for reasoning.
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gene
1157 posts
Jan 03, 2014
7:10 PM
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Am I reading a script for an episode of The Big Bang Theory? :D
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harpdude61
1946 posts
Jan 04, 2014
5:34 AM
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geeez yall.....the bottom line is all that is relevant in the toon! Mix and match the others any way you like.
BOTTOM LINE......"harp players are hornier than other musicians"...surely you all agree??
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groyster1
2502 posts
Jan 05, 2014
7:07 AM
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does anybody remember the original tv judge wopner...a very philosophical judge who said "you need to overlook things".....very sound advice....this would be a better forum if people would not make a mountain out of a molehillIMHO...just sayin`
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Frank
3644 posts
Jan 05, 2014
7:32 AM
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What are the 10 Bad Reasons for playin Blues Harp?
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Stevelegh
905 posts
Jan 07, 2014
4:15 AM
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@GreyOwl: Incidentally, I'm getting some work ware printed at the moment and thought about sneaking a T shirt in with this on it.
Doo you know who did this artwork and if there's any copyright on it?
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LittleBubba
296 posts
Jan 07, 2014
1:32 PM
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I guess I must be obtuse, but I didn't read any sexuality into any part but the harper with the women.
As a happily married guy, I enjoy shootin' the bull with anybody who wants to be friendly at gigs. If I'm playin' keyboards and a guy comes up to talk, I'm not even thinkin' about whether he's gay or straight. I could care less.
If I'm playin' harp and a drunk girl wants to show me her pierced tongue, and explain what she can do with it, I just ignore it and carry on what's left of the conversation.
Why do have to interpret everything from a sexual viewpoint, and what's wrong with jabbin' some fun at anybody-- including ourselves-- as long as we're ready to apologize if we see that we offended somebody?
You just have to know where the lines are, and take the cues from your friends and others if you habitually are stepping over the line.
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