MP ? I dont understand you guys sounded really good,like you play for a living or parttime at least,I guess thats why i didnt want to say anything really cause I cant give no pointers,all i can say is i enjoyed the listen.To me thats what counts if you can play something other people enjoy to listen to then you are doing fine.
I agree it wandered a bit, but I don't see what's with the big fuss and troll accusations. I even re-watched the video. I clicked on his website.
Trolling: (According to the Urban Dictionary)
"Being a prick on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it's the internet and, hey, you can."
(There are other definitions, but they are all pretty similar.)
I don't see how this fits into that category. Anyway, it's late. I can't wait to see what crazy stuff is on the interwebs tomorrow.
I've only given one real "harmonica lesson" so far privately and it was to a beginner. None of my kids at the museum are very interested in the Harp yet. We even had Charlie Musselwhite come in for a workshop and that didn't even do the trick. Unfortunately I was sick that day so i missed out. I see I just shouldn't have SPOKEN in my first video. That would have prevented all this Hatin'. That's what i'll do from now on, just play and no talking in my videos. Thanks, I've learned a lot from all of your comments. I obviously need to work on my mannerisms to get the Ego vibe from coming across when i record videos & I should just stick to playing guitar and singing maybe? I do enjoy playing the harp though so maybe i'll try to find someone in the area to help me get to the next level. If you call customizing setting the gaps on the 6 and 7 hole to OB and OD with a toothpick, then I am THE customization king.
Anyone out there ever gonna tell me what a troll is? I guess me and my balls are gonna go over to wikipedia and find out.
You all have a good day, and once again i do appreciate ALL of your constructive criticism. peace, ---------- $Daddy Rich$ "The Blues is Ok!"
I see above about the "trolling". I wasn't trying to be a prick man. I honestly thought this could be a fun thread for people to post their vids and have the more experienced people involved in the forum kind of make remarks and give some guidance. Well, THAT didn't work out too well. I'm sorry to the beginner/intermediateish players who may have wanted to post a video and are now probably like "@#$% that" after seeing what i got. But hey I got no hard feelings yall, i asked for it right? So i'm gonna do you all a huge favor and shut my trap. I'll try to make sure i don't "troll" while online. I'm just tryin' to be real. I guess i am a bit cynical and sarcastic so that's just me, not just doing it "online cause i can". Good night. Don't let the bed bugs bite. Do i get like a free T-shirt or anything for all this? ---------- $Daddy Rich$ "The Blues is Ok!"
There ain't no big deal i reacon. I dunno. I just have that effect on people i guess. I was down in Laurel, MS a few weeks ago. Send me your contact info's at: crazy AT daddyrich.com And i shall let you know when I'm coming back down southways. peace, ---------- $Daddy Rich$ "The Blues is Ok!"
clarksdale you made a splash,i kind of got some humor out of the cocky mannerisms,but thats what a entertainer does is entertain.You sound good your second video should have been posted 1st probelly,I allmost posted but hesitated cause well ive allready post allot,And i dont like asking the Big dogs for pointers cause,Of stuff like this. Adam said awhile back he doesnt like to promote a new player cause of things people take from it,he did once and and after about 6 people responding i saw what he meant,so I just dont ask anyone in particular,Im allways open for sugestion but im not asking.exspecially after todays lesson
Thanks MP for your nice comment
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Yea man, you understand. I mean it's supposed to be fun right? I sure wish i'd had that second video this morning. But i guess there can't be a 2nd without a 1st? And now I realized i could have just clicked on the "WHAT LEVEL ARE YOU" link on Adam's front page! Wow, i'm smart huh? Well, if nothing else i hope some of you out there got a laugh at my expense out of this. Sorry and Thanks and all that good stuff! Lock er' Down Captain! -rich ---------- $Daddy Rich$ "The Blues is Ok!"
Isn't it good this board doesn't welcome a new arrival with cynicism, suspicion and flaming?
@MP:
Off the Wall was cool. Great tune that I haven't heard for a while. Your version sounds pretty together to me.
@GermanHarpist:
Nice tone. Shame the phone went off at the end and things stopped. Things seemed to be going along nicely.
Thanks to you both. I enjoyed listening / watching.
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@Buddha:
Refusing to coat the pill in sugar is one thing (your first post in this thread, for example. Brutal, constructive, helpful). Posting what appear to be speculative, mean-spirited, hasty conclusions concerning someone else's motives is quite another.
"Well, THAT didn't work out too well. I'm sorry to the beginner/intermediateish players who may have wanted to post a video and are now probably like "@#$% that" after seeing what i got. "
Thanks for your comment captainbliss, the thing that interrupted that session wasn't his phone,... he just remembered that he had a camera of his own in his pocked and wanted that, what we were playing, recorded (achieving exactly the opposite).
However, the guy playing the solo guitar is actually an employee of the music shop. So we met up later on and had a little jam session at my place.
It's about friendship... we called it 'mes amis' - my friends. I can tell you that was quite a clash of cultures. The togolese emotionally outspoken and us germans...
In the middle of the song Frederic, the togolese guy, encourages the solo guitarist to sing something about friendship.... He can play all kind of riffs and is quite proficient with the guitar, but singing a couple of lines about friendsship... no :)
I love the combination of these french-african chants and the blues guitar and harp.
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There's always somebody like you in the bunch. Get off your pedestal. I call 'em as I see em. I was right and now he's backpedaling
What was I wrong about? Was his playing good? NO Is he Mr Humility as he says? Not a chance.
But for you, from this point on, I'm going to tell everybody they are great. I'll just fill people with bullshit like people want to hear so they feel better.
*** @Buddha:
Refusing to coat the pill in sugar is one thing (your first post in this thread, for example. Brutal, constructive, helpful). Posting what appear to be speculative, mean-spirited, hasty conclusions concerning someone else's motives is quite another. ----------
The comment I made about your having balls to come on here in that fashion was not meant sarcastically as in "your arrogant to being doing this" but rather sincerely.
Having been a member of this forum for quite sometime I can tell you that there are people here that know their shit when it comes to blues harmonica. Collectively they can play, build and teach. They have forgotten more blues history than I know, and have more gigging experience than I'll ever have. They can offer you advice on how to gap your reeds as easily as they can tell you how to build your own mike. They will all be straight with you about the level of your playing, some brutally so, some with a lighter touch.
Against that backdrop, I think any player purported to have a year and a half experience who comes here with a video of his playing who says "give it to me straight" has serious stones. You WILL get a straight up assessment and you might not like what you hear, but you can't complain....after all you asked for it.
Having said that, I think that the impugning of your motives is coming from someplace different and is not entirely unwarranted. After listening to your first clip, reading the comments and following the link Zhin provided, I can't help but feel there is something disingenuous about your initial presentation.
I can't put my finger on it exactly, let's just say that it came across as "aw shucks, I've been playing a year and half I'm completely new to this, whatta y'all think".
In reality, you're somebody who plays guitar and sings and has done so on stage in front of audiences, and has a website that offers lessons. While that may not translate to harp experience, it does invalidate the "aw shuks newbie" vibe you were giving off in the first vid. And it didn't help that you picked a noodling piece instead of an actual piece of music as your first vid.
This is a, for the most part, very fair group. Very opinionated (on just about every topic) but fair. But one thing they don't like is the feeling they're being played or lied to. In essence, I don't think it was that you talked at the beginning of the vid, but what you said, or rather, didn't say. I think that's what happened here. I know you had me going. But I'm not close to the level of player this group has to offer, and hence, I offered no opinion on your playing. Hey, "a man's got to know his limitations" - Dirty Harry, right?
I have no idea what your motives are nor do I care, I'm just trying to explain how I think you came accross. These people are a good bunch and a fantastic resource. If one wants to learn about or how to play blues harmonica I can't think of a better on-line resource.
yea i just watched the video shine posted of him i cracked up,he's a charector.But if hes only been woodshedding 18 months then he's not bad.
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IMO, you are very lucky to get comments on your playing by some of the most seasoned players on this board, I tried once and only one guy gave me his opinion (Mickil, who no longer posts here since a long time). The initial comment from Buddha was (maybe unnecessary) brutal, but it was honest and it's always better than no comment at all... ---------- http://www.buddybrent.be
We Guardians of All that is Good (oftened shortened to GAG, which may explain the relfex you experience in our presence) float on shimmering discs of self-appointed righteousness!
/But for you, from this point on, I'm going to tell everybody they are great./
Thank you.
There's a nice cup of tea and a selection of soft toys (my favourites are the bunnies, but we've got some unbelievably cute teddy-bears if you prefer) waiting for you in Room Fluffy any time you'd like to drop by.
it's all good everybody. Let's all just get along. I apologize if i came off disingenuous in the first video. I truly didn't mean to cause a fuss like this. I've got no motives other than to hear what people thought about my playing and to kind of introduce myself to the group. I should have taken more care in making a proper video and be more serious. I'm just not that serious of a guy most the time. Bye, i appreciate the help and thanks for your time. I'm gone. ---------- $Daddy Rich$ "The Blues is Ok!"
i dont think anybody was out of line really,With a name like Daddyrich you got to exspect a cocky vibe (i wish my daddy was rich whole family po)But Buddha did say he had a full toolbox time to go to work,I would be walking around like a journeyman with a woodie if i heard Buddha say my toolbox was full:-)
if I ever exhibited myself on this forum I would only want honesty and if somebody said dont quit your day job that would be okay because I dont plan on quitting anyway
@Clarksdale: re: "Mr. Heumann, I don't know what you're talking about me holding up a "silly sign" for "you guys" and a "silly name". I do that on ALL of my YouTube videos. That's just my Trademarked performing name and i always promote my website whenever the chance arises. I'm trying to make a living like the rest of you all"
I didn't realize you had other videos and that you're trying to make a living at this. I still think the name/presentation is silly and egotistical, but I support your trying. On the other hand I have to agree with others that you're not ready to teach harp. I just listened to your Hideaway video - it DOES show you in a much better light than what you posted first here. I repeat that for the time you've been playing very well.
Didn't mean to offend you - but like Buddha I tend toward the honest and unpadded rather than blowing smoke up your patoot - there are enough people to tell others how wonderful they are when they're lying through their teeth.
No worries everybody. We're cool Mr. Heumann, I appreciate your honest opinion. And like i said, i'm not that serious a guy. Let's all lighten up and have some fun. I'm not offended at all. I appreciate everyone's thoughts, and I'll try to be more tasteful with my attitude in the future and maybe we can all get along? How's about that? So thanks again and please have a good day. Next time we all speak i'll know to be more thoughtful with how i carry myself. Now everyone, go grab your harp and play and let's not waste anymore time on this matter. If you do want to "spend" some time, go find a thread that's worthwhile. I apologize that this thread turned wacky Mr. Gussow. peace to all, good day, ---------- $Daddy Rich$ "The Blues is Ok!"
@Tahoe Nah, i quit smoking the ganji many years back. But I didn't get much sleep lately and franky i'm kinda like that Jim Brewer dude, the goat guy from SNL. I just look high and talk with a southern draw all the time.
But, ain't got nothing against the ganji lovers, just makes me worthless and lazy, hell look at me when i'm sober for goodness sakes!!!!!! :) ---------- $Daddy Rich$ "The Blues is Ok!"
Clarksdale. I thought the first video was pretty hard to listen to purely, as many have said, because of the lack of musicality.
Later video i quite enjoyed. Not sure what the length of time playing has to do with anything. Seems to make something soulful into something competitive.
However, i find it odd that after recieving obsevations you asked for you would then want to defend against them. Repeatedly contesting your lack of ego is pointless. How we come across to other people is for others to decide and if we dont like how others see us then words are meaningless. Its a hard swallow and make changes if we want to.
Otherwise do like Budha. I dont always agree with him but he puts it out as he is and doesnt try to defend against those who dont like how he is.
Thats the deal in life.
And teaching? well requires a degree of modesty, complete lack of competiveness and a degree of mastery of the subject taught. I have no idea about your teaching abilities but would feel that , from watching your videos and seeing your website, which you are putting out as 'this is me', their might be work to be done on these fronts.
There is a difference between offering honest opinions on people's skills and trying to psycho analyze there intentions. I don't think clarksdale was upset with the evaluation of his playing. He seemed to take that in stride. The crazy stuff after that, well, it was pretty crazy. Try to follow the forum creed and take him at his word. A conversation about skill levels? What a crazy idea. There seems to be a pile on going on, and I'm going to ask you guys to stop. Maybe, just maybe, he is a harmonica player, who has been playing for about 18 months, who has played other instruments, who wanted to start a useful discussion on where people are on the harmonica. I'm only getting that from his video and his post and clicking through to his website. I don't have fancy mind reading abilities.
"Not hating on him, just pointing out the obvious"
no, thats hating...and an incorrect observation
its obvious that Tryharps explanation is what fits. What you were doing was trying to start a war of words and you know it. No one has to know what youre thinking to figure that out. he asked for constuctive critiques, what youve posted here has been far from constructive.
He asked for comments on his playing, not the bits of his persona that you didnt care for. he fudged on the first vid, and posted something more suitable on the ones to follow, and has been humble in the face of asshole-ism.
My neighbor across the street had a 23-year-old son, until he died from a heart attack Saturday night. My son is at the doctor right now for a high fever... he had a febrile seizure three years ago, so we are understandably concerned.
Why do I bring this up?
Life is short, people. Let's give each other a break, starting with our new friend from clarksdale. Direct and frank analyses of playing are great. I saw nothing wrong with Buddha's way of presenting that, even if you or I might have chosen words differently.
i'll take you up on the tea and my dog would love to throttle stuffed creatures.
her favorite is horton the elephant. she swings him about while he insists,"i meant what i said, and i said what i meant, an elephants faithful 100%"......
Kyzer Sosa: "He asked for comments on his playing, not the bits of his persona that you didnt care for. he fudged on the first vid, and posted something more suitable on the ones to follow, and has been humble in the face of asshole-ism.
i dont get the negativity at all..."
You know what Kyzer, that statement is absolutely correct.
Clarksdale, my apologies for referring to your first post as coming off as disingenuous, who am I to tell you that? I think this would be a good time for me personally to step back and take a break from the nonsense.
Note: I'm not making a statement about anybody else's critiquing style or the quality of the forum or anything else. I'm talking about my own personal contributions or lack thereof. Heretofore from me: questions about harp or music that would help me be a better musician; and commentary when I have something of value to add, which is quite rarely.
Adam's comment from a different thread: I now return you to your regularly scheduled cat fight.
Yikes!!!! That's embarassing to me. But he was right.
I've only been playing for three (3) months, so I am not in a position to say much. Adam is right, there is a lot of pretty good technical quality in your playing, but I think that most of the people responding (me included) would prefer to hear you play with a backing guitar track, or even a blues recording that you like which does not have a harp portion, so that we can hear your rhythm and how you play in the spaces. But all in all pretty good, and very gutsy to put something up on this forum for critique. I think that I might just do the same at this point. Any requests...for background songs? (just kidding! I guess Ill just follow that old adage "play something ya know")
You see Clarksdale you need a coat and tie to be at our club,Make reservations,be prepard to tip the waiter,and dont ask for beer were fancy wine drinkers,You cant just walk in and be friendly,joke around we have no humor,We tell it like it is,Why you cant even join our club with out a special request.special thats the word were special,plus you didnt even have on a cool blues hat.man o man i dont know about some of these new members trying to cut in on our thing.;-)P.S plus your from Missippii who ever heard of blues being played from there.
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Phew! Kinda makes me scared of ever putting my stuff up on here again. Let's not forget we are not all trying to get into the major league of blues artists, some of us (and I should imagine it's the majority) are only here for a bit of fellowship from likeminded souls who enjoy the challenge of playing the blues and learning to play a musical instrument.
After seeing how clarksdale has been jumped on from a great height by people who I respected as players and knowledgable experts, I'm beginning to realise why Sonny Williams had a mouthful of broken teeth and why lots of the old blues legends led such violent lives.
OK so some guy turns up and plays a few twiddley bits and he gets jumped on by what comes across as a jealous mob. I can't help but feel how deflated clarkesdale must be feeling now. I hope this hasn't put him off harp playing because with life as it is these days, it may be one of the only small pleasures we can get.
Anyway. I say good on you clarkesdale. You fronted up and set your stall out. More people on here should try it.
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when I say somebody is playing with ego, I more or less mean they are thinking about what to play vs just playing. In clarkdale's case, I could tell he was playing certain things just to show that he could and then as it seemed he was going to stop, I could "hear" him thinking, I'll play something slow now...
To me, ego is not a negative thing however it does interrupt the creative process.
I can honestly say I don't hate Daddy Rich. I feel indifferent about him.
I don't know what you have against me personally but I think that you're needlessly accusing and attacking me.
Look man, I made an opinion which I believe is relevant to his playing. If you don't like it TOO BAD. Other people have voiced out the same opinions.
There are a lot of other people on this thread who are less easier "targets" than me to point fingers at and put the blame on for a "flame war".
People who ALSO think he's trolling, shouldn't teach, and have an ego problem. But because some of them are big names on this community you're not going to say anything are you?
Why are you singling me out?
PS: you are coming off as EXTREMELY negative to me.
you called him a troll first...tell me what personal attack came before you posted that? how else can anyone see it differently? they cant. If they do, they simply havent read this topic from top to bottom.
I agreed with your idea that he was a bit smug about his playing, but a critique on his reasons for asking, is not what he asked for. what did you post that was relevant to a critique of his playing? nothing...thus, the rightful accusation.
did he say in his vid that he teaches harmonica, no, you looked him up to find that info out, and for all you know, he could be teaching to raw beginners. what about his playing suggests he's not in a position to do that?
All the "big names" have explained themselves and offered up an apology for the personal attacks or have clarified their positions taken on their earlier posts...
I still remember it. I must have been a junior in High School and I just loved knowing that after I graduated there would be no more juvenile petty types to deal with in the adult world. Thanks Clarkesdale, i enjoyed watching, keep after it man.
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