GermanHarpist
1486 posts
May 25, 2010
3:17 PM
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It was much requested... here it is: the MBH chat!
I thought it would be easiest to just meet up over skype. We created an account to host the jam and called it 'modernbluesharmonica'. So feel free to add it to your skype contacts.
The first jam will be held thursday evening at 7pm central time (mississippi) - nacoran was so kind to take on the hosting.
So everybody that wants to talk harp and hang out with his mbh buddies... welcome!
However, also if some people have some questions about how to do some html stuff and general questions to the forum, I think this would also be a nice place to resolve these.
And last I thought it would be nice to use the chat to help out the newbies to the harmonica community in general. So if you would like to have some harmonica stuff explained, stuff shown - thats the place. I know there are a couple of people with an huge amout of good informative bookmarks in their browser that can direct you to any information that you'd like to know about (ask nacoran ;)
... and even if some people want to pair off and have a little teaching session one on one I think that could be arranged too.
So I hope to see you there!
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Last Edited by on May 26, 2010 12:23 PM
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oda
331 posts
May 25, 2010
3:31 PM
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Great idea, GH.
Thanks for taking initiative to keep the community (inter)active.
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DJKim
13 posts
May 26, 2010
6:25 AM
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That is brilliant! Thanks for setting this up. It's a bit early where I'm at, but I'll be there.
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Tuckster
553 posts
May 26, 2010
9:39 AM
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I don't have a webcam,but I have Skype. Can I just watch?
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GermanHarpist
1491 posts
May 26, 2010
10:44 AM
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You don't need a webcam (I tried to get mine running, but it doesn't seem to work) - Just skype and a headset/mic.
I'm online right now so feel free to add the chat to your contacts. Then tomorrow evening you can just IM the chat (nacoran) so that he can add you to the conference call.
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oldwailer
1254 posts
May 26, 2010
11:04 AM
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So, does anybody know what time 7pm Mississippi time is on the left coast of America?
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Greg Heumann
479 posts
May 26, 2010
11:14 AM
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MS is 2 hours later than CA - so 5PM in CA.
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nacoran
1946 posts
May 26, 2010
11:17 AM
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I think Mississippi in Central time, so for us Americans, it's 8 Eastern, 7 Central, 6 Mountain, 5 Pacific, although you could argue that both costs of America are left coast, and the politics in the middle are more to the right, but that would only confuse the issue.
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oldwailer
1256 posts
May 26, 2010
11:21 AM
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Yeah, but MS is in the south--so it would be more lower to the right of center if only slightly--to put it in the most accurate terms possible. . .
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isaacullah
971 posts
May 26, 2010
12:00 PM
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How long do you guys think you will stay online? I have some shit to do on Thursday at 5pm Arizona time (7pm central, the time of the chat), but I could maybe join in around 6pm AZ time (8pm central).
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GermanHarpist
1492 posts
May 26, 2010
12:20 PM
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CaptainBolide
73 posts
May 26, 2010
1:13 PM
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Click for the time in all US zones
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Tuckster
555 posts
May 26, 2010
2:15 PM
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GH Does that make it 2 A.M. in Germany?
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GermanHarpist
1494 posts
May 26, 2010
2:35 PM
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yeah,... that's right ;)
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GermanHarpist
1495 posts
May 26, 2010
2:42 PM
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For the people down under the chat will start friday 11am...
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GermanHarpist
1499 posts
May 27, 2010
8:57 AM
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bump
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shanester
46 posts
May 27, 2010
9:11 AM
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Very cool GermanHarpist, I don't know if I can make it this time or not but I will try. Great idea!
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nacoran
1948 posts
May 27, 2010
3:35 PM
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Bumpapatomis.
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GermanHarpist
1501 posts
May 27, 2010
5:43 PM
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If you still want to join, add the chat to your contacts.
Then just send an IM and you'll be added.
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GermanHarpist
1502 posts
May 27, 2010
7:40 PM
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Nice chat. Same next week?
Maybe I'll then start a little earlier so that the european folks can profit off it too :)
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DJKim
17 posts
May 27, 2010
7:47 PM
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Next week sounds great. I'm there. But earlier?!?! It's already early enough for me. But whatever time is most beneficial for everyone to join. We'll just see if I can wake up early enough.
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nacoran
1949 posts
May 27, 2010
7:56 PM
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We ran for about 3 hours. Nice putting a voice with some of the names out there. We had some technical difficulties, but we worked through them. Anyone with any ideas, let us know.
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CaptainBolide
74 posts
May 27, 2010
8:05 PM
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I was asking around after the skype session and
was turned on to this diddy
http://ninjam.com/
*pasted from website*
What is NINJAM?
NINJAM is a program to allow people to make real music together via the Internet. Every participant can hear every other participant. Each user can also tweak their personal mix to his or her liking. NINJAM is cross-platform, with clients available for Mac OS X and Windows.
NINJAM uses compressed audio which allows it to work with any instrument or combination of instruments. You can sing, play a real piano, play a real saxophone, play a real guitar with whatever effects and guitar amplifier you want, anything. If your computer can record it, then you can jam with it (as opposed to MIDI-only systems that automatically preclude any kind of natural audio collaboration1).
Since the inherent latency of the Internet prevents true realtime synchronization of the jam2, and playing with latency is weird (and often uncomfortable), NINJAM provides a solution by making latency (and the weirdness) much longer.
Latency in NINJAM is measured in measures, and that's what makes it interesting.
The NINJAM client records and streams synchronized intervals of music between participants. Just as the interval finishes recording, it begins playing on everyone else's client. So when you play through an interval, you're playing along with the previous interval of everybody else, and they're playing along with your previous interval. If this sounds pretty bizarre, it sort of is, until you get used to it, then it becomes pretty natural. In many ways, it can be more forgiving than a normal jam, because mistakes propagate differently.
Part tool, part toy, NINJAM is designed with an emphasis on musical experimentation and expression.
How does NINJAM work?
NINJAM uses OGG Vorbis audio compression to compress audio, then streams it to a NINJAM server, which can then stream it to the other people in your jam. This architecture requires a server with adequate bandwidth, but has no firewall or NAT issues. OGG Vorbis is utilized for its great low bitrate characteristics and performance. Each user receives a copy of other users audio streams, allowing for each user to adjust the mix to their liking, as well as remix later. This uses more bandwidth than having a server encode a single stream, but has numerous benefits (including lower server CPU use and the client having the full multichannel data for later use).
NINJAM can also save all of the original uncompressed source material, for doing full quality remixes after the jam.
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earlounge
80 posts
May 27, 2010
9:21 PM
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It was really cool to talk to people that play harp! I learned a lot, including how to over blow!
no sh!t all the vids on youtube didn't help me with anything but a squeal trying to OB, but talking with you guys for an hour did the trick! I finally got a few good OBs tonight with the advice GH said about blow bends and what MAL said about not forcing it and playing soft. Thanks guys!
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nacoran
1950 posts
May 27, 2010
10:06 PM
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Captain, it sounds like a cross between a party line and a loop pedal! That could be fun.
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GermanHarpist
1503 posts
May 28, 2010
5:54 AM
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DJKim, I thought I'd just start hosting the jam at about 9pm european time, so that people from the UK don't have to pull an all nighter :). Of course the US chat will still be around 7pm - or whenever you feel like joining.
CaptainBolide, I've tried ninjam. It was pretty cool, however it is exclusively for jamming, and it really only makes sense if you have a backing guitar and base or drums - only lead instruments... no.
As far as I know you fix a certain loop interval (mostly one or two beats), the guitar starts playing, and the other people play the accompagnement one interval later, and the guitarist hears it again an interval later. So there isn't really any communitcation and the groove has to be pretty constant, so that it all fits...
earlounge, great!
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DJKim
18 posts
May 28, 2010
7:31 AM
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I currently live in Korea so 9pm for you is 9am for me. I'm not complaining though. If you make it earlier, I could just log on to skype right once I wake up. Though I won't be as fresh heh.
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Tuckster
557 posts
May 28, 2010
7:45 AM
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I had a good time. I didn't expect the audio to be as good as it was. I came a little late to the party. Who was the guy doing that great Sonny Terry stuff? It would be nice to move the time up so the many Europeans we have here don't have to be night owls.
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Nastyolddog
801 posts
May 28, 2010
7:48 AM
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It would have been great if i could have worked out how to use Skype i got the account up,
but will get around to looking how to navigate it befor next session:)
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GermanHarpist
1504 posts
May 28, 2010
7:53 AM
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Nasty, once you have skype open just press 'new', 'add contact' and enter 'modernbluesharmonica'. Then once the chat is on, you can be quickly added to the call.
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Nastyolddog
802 posts
May 28, 2010
8:05 AM
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Yo Bro will do next time,
see your there or I'll Be Square:)
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nacoran
1951 posts
May 28, 2010
10:36 AM
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We had a funny problem when different people tried talking at once without visual cues. Everyone was really polite and stopped talking, and then there would be a pause, and everyone would start talking again! There is a running instant message screen underneath too, so we could listen to someone jam and still communicate underneath without interrupting.
I think I saw something that said there could be up to 24 people in a conversation. We peaked at about half that. As more people get this figured out if we hit that limit we'll have to figure out what to do. Theoretically we can do video too, but aside from a brief moment when DevonTom's camera got turned on no one was doing video last night and I think Tom's camera got activated by accident.
I think I also made Paul king of the chat by pressing button. I don't think I could do it again if I tried, although I should probably figure that out in case people want to keep chatting after hosts' bedtimes.
We had a couple people with no microphones chime in just by text.
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isaacullah
974 posts
May 28, 2010
11:34 AM
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Sorry I couldn't be there for this one. Sounds like it was a good one! I'll try to make the next one if it's at all possible.
One thing we might try is ooVoo, which lets you do up to six Video feeds at once. That way, we could see AND talk to eachother, which would be pretty cool... Probabaly would need a healthy bit a of bandwidth to get all the video feeds coming in at once, though....
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DevonTom
107 posts
May 28, 2010
11:52 AM
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Tuckster, I was breaking down the Sonny Terry stuff. A few people I shall be getting in contact with to teach specifically that stuff. Skype me if you want to learn. No fee, but time constraints dictate when I can do these lessons. We can work it out, we can work it out!
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oldwailer
1259 posts
May 28, 2010
12:01 PM
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Well, I got there late and missed the music part--but it was nice to chat with some of the guys about browsers and software and stuff. I'll be there earlier next time.
This is a good idea!
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Tuckster
559 posts
May 28, 2010
12:02 PM
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DevonTom. Thanks! I'm in. How do I locate you, or anybody else for that matter, on Skype? I used my MBH handle plus a 9 on Skype.
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DevonTom
108 posts
May 28, 2010
12:14 PM
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Type in Tom Walbank in the Skype search engine.
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MichaelAndrewLo
410 posts
May 28, 2010
3:08 PM
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Yeah, learned quite a bit from talking with those who were there. We gotta do more jamming on that thing though. I love to hear people's different approaches to playing when it's live and how my playing affects what the next person plays or how what I play is affected. Great fun!
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Tuckster
562 posts
Jun 01, 2010
7:26 AM
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Are we going to do this again this Thur.?
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nacoran
1969 posts
Jun 01, 2010
9:07 AM
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Tuck, I'm game.
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Tuckster
563 posts
Jun 01, 2010
9:37 AM
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Count me in,too. I had fun. It was nice to hear actual voices and playing from forum members.
Nate--the last time,I couldn't see my name on the list,even though I was on there. The only time my name appeared was when I logged off.
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GermanHarpist
1507 posts
Jun 02, 2010
2:35 PM
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I don't know if I'll be able to make it... I'd have to see. 2am is pretty late.. however, I'm going to a jam tomorrow evening anyway, so if I'm back as late as that I'll come and say hello.
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nacoran
1981 posts
Jun 02, 2010
4:23 PM
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Tuck, I wonder if maybe that was because Skype assumed you knew you were in the conversation? I couldn't see the MBH log in in the list either. Then when you logged out it showed you the list of who was in the conversation like you weren't there, only for a moment you still were, so there you were. Or at least that's my guess. :)
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Tuckster
566 posts
Jun 02, 2010
5:10 PM
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Ha Ha I couldn't have put it any better,Nate. I might have to come in late tomorrow-we have band practice.
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GermanHarpist
1510 posts
Jun 03, 2010
7:24 AM
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Bumpin...
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earlounge
84 posts
Jun 03, 2010
8:25 AM
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So what time did everyone decide on?
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nacoran
1986 posts
Jun 03, 2010
10:39 AM
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I don't know. Same bat time, same bat channel, or would some other time work better?
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Shoulders
5 posts
Jun 03, 2010
1:37 PM
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Hi Guys,
Is the forum chat going on? Its half nine in the UK. Is it MBH Forum Chat on Skype?
Cheers
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The7thDave
116 posts
Jun 03, 2010
2:10 PM
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I'm signing in with a different user name this time ("The7thDave"), but mainly in the hopes that additional sessions will develop at some point in the future. Thursday evenings aren't going to work out for me.
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Shoulders
6 posts
Jun 03, 2010
2:26 PM
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aaaaahhh.
i hate all technology. well at least the stuff i don't understand.
Please help...how do i go about getting involved in the mbh forum chat. German Harpist mentioned 9pm for Europeans so it wasnt half way through the night. is anyone involved now?
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