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MP
278 posts
May 14, 2010
11:24 AM
on the experience vs. talent thread buddha says,

"i believe there is an etheric plane of knowledge that we are able to tap into. i have always been able to do this but i have always believed that everybody can tap into this."

when i questioned him as to him believeing in astral,causal, mental,and soul planes he answered with an amusing "yes". (i don't think his beliefs are amusing-they are just beliefs.

in my comprehensive studies of most religeons,tree worship, mythology,channeling, magic,cults,metaphysics, etc. iv'e come across some wacky stuff though. even so..i'm not here to judge, i'm just curious.

my questions are as follows; how do you tap into this "etheric plane"? is it a talent or a meditational exercise? does this plane resemble our physical world? if so, is it peopled with beings one can pose questions to? if not, what does it look like?
ElkRiverHarmonicas
414 posts
May 14, 2010
11:36 AM
Bill Monroe talked about this, about the songs he wrote already existing. He just found them. If you think about music, it sure seems that way, because every song has a way it wants to go.
ness
192 posts
May 14, 2010
11:48 AM
Elk: I really admire the way you can take something and boil it down into a nice, concise statement.
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John
Buddha
1842 posts
May 14, 2010
12:01 PM
not beings, energy. We are all energy that vibrates at different frequencies. I have been able to tap into this for as long as I can remember. I have often demonstrated the ability to "know" things without zero previous knowledge...things I couldn't possibly know without somebody telling me things.

I do not believe in time as most of people perceive it in this third dimensional space, there is only energy.

I remember being at the last SPAH. Hanging out with Buckweed for extended periods can be altering to say the least. In short, I was completely out of my mind when I was on stage as was Buckweed. We didn't know what we were going to play. We hadn't rehearsed anything, we just got up on stage in front of 100s of people and played. I remember being nervous, and I remember having mini-panic attacks while on stage. I also distinctly recall having full conversation with myself AND Buckweed on an energy level IN BETWEEN notes. I remember telling thinking about what I was going to play, I thought about my note choices and even thought about the various effects the audience would have with different note choices. I also remember telling myself "Don't fuck this one up, this is a moment for the audience to cheer mid-solo" I remember tell buckweed, on an energy level, what I was planning to do with my next note and where I was going next. I heard his voice telling me to do what I wanted and that he would be there. He told me it was my moment and he's just a support guy"

This was a full conversation that typically would have lasted minutes but we had it in between 1/16th notes. Time literally did not exist for me in that moment.

I very much believe in meditation and connecting with all things. I speak, they listen, they speak, I listen. I ask and things are given.

For example, I recently had some huge expenses creep up for me and I simply didn't have the money to cover all of it plus mortgage for june. So sat down in the sun, in the desert and connected with everything. I explained to the surrounding energy what I needed and what I would do to balance the situation. BOOM. This week over $3500 came to me in various and unexpected ways. Part of what I offered to balance involves travel to help somebody, yesterday, out of the blue, my father in-law sends ME, not my wife, a GPS unit for my car. He said in his note that he was looking at it and decided to buy it for me and he didn't know why. To me this is the universe speaking and giving me what I need.

In general, I always believe things are going to be fine. I never doubt, I don't dwell in the past and fully understand that what I do today determines what happens tomorrow.

I'm not the only person that is into this type of thing. Without going into details, Jason Ricci is also into similar things but in a different way. I know guys like Howard Levy and Toots think like I do at least they did when we talked about it 10 years ago.





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"There are said to be pleasures in madness, known only to madmen."
Littoral
12 posts
May 14, 2010
12:15 PM
How?
T-Bone Burnett uses the term conjure.
I’m very familiar with these places and I go as often as possible.
Sometimes I'm fortunate enough to get there.

Last Edited by on May 14, 2010 12:16 PM
MP
279 posts
May 14, 2010
12:15 PM
perhaps what you call etheric, i call the zone. when i play i do not feel the harp is separate from my body. it is not even an extension-it is my body.

i fail to understand how folks will say they need the corners rounded on a harp or the covers are too tall or wood tastes funny.
once i played a long unaccompanied solo at a gig and noticed my palms were bleeding like stigmata.
guess i was overzealous.
earlounge
56 posts
May 14, 2010
12:19 PM
Augusten Burrouhs claims he has similar talents in his book Magical Thinking.
Buddha
1844 posts
May 14, 2010
12:25 PM
speaking of "knowing things" one of the reasons I so adamant about why talent doesn't exist is simply because I asked the question of the universe and was given the answer. I was completely unaware of the 10,000 principle. I also feel that I'm correct because once I investigated the topic, I found more information that supports MAL's perspective than I did for people who believe talent exist. I thought it was very interesting that I was essentially spouting the same things - ie talent is a label, talent = hard workd etc that is found in all of the research that I have never before read. I never thought to investigate the subject yet I already had the same answers as those who actually performed years of research.

I know alot of you think I've very well read and highly educated but the truth is, I get most of my answers from the Akashic records than I do from books. I often find that I just know the answers by thinking about the question. Anybody who has spent significant time with me will tell you this is a very real think with me. Especially with my wife, she'll run off to the doctor and I always tell her what is wrong with her before she goes. Not once in 20 years have I been incorrect with a diagnoses regarding her health.





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"There are said to be pleasures in madness, known only to madmen."

Last Edited by on May 14, 2010 12:28 PM
Buddha
1845 posts
May 14, 2010
12:33 PM
we did that personality thread awhile ago. I test as an INFJ

look at this portion of the description. Then examine what I wrote in this thread and the talent thread. It fits like a glove eh?

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INFJs place great importance on having things orderly and systematic in their outer world. They put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities in their lives. On the other hand, INFJs operate within themselves on an intuitive basis which is entirely spontaneous.

>>>They know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. They are usually right, and they usually know it.<<<<

Consequently, INFJs put a tremendous amount of faith into their instincts and intuitions.
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"There are said to be pleasures in madness, known only to madmen."

Last Edited by on May 14, 2010 12:34 PM
ElkRiverHarmonicas
415 posts
May 14, 2010
12:48 PM
Buddah says:
"I explained to the surrounding energy what I needed and what I would do to balance the situation. BOOM. This week over $3500 came to me in various and unexpected ways"

Dave sez:
Hey Buddha, how about putting in a good word to the ether for me?


This thread brings to mind a thread about the key of F#, what I recall taking from the discussion was that the key of F# was supposed to get me aroused. It didn't. But I did find some magic in the key of F# minor, although still no arousal. I have taken a lot of my previous arrangements in Em and put them in F#m. Words can have similar powers to music, there was a Dr. Who episode where these aliens went back to Shakespeare's day to get Shakespeare to write some words that would open this vortex or something. But truly, both music and words have power, even if it is only a percieved power.

My grandpa could do stuff with time I tried years to duplicate and only recently been able to do it on only one song, on the mandolin, and it's still not like what he could do. It was almost like he could stop time and spin it around his finger.

Buddha, I love it when you talk about this stuff, it's always a fun read.

Last Edited by on May 14, 2010 12:49 PM
Buddha
1847 posts
May 14, 2010
12:53 PM
Dave sez:
"Hey Buddha, how about putting in a good word to the ether for me?"

no because it's you that has to believe in the power of all. You clearly aren't open enough to ask for yourself so it will never come to you because on one level or another you are projecting doubt and rejection.

Last Edited by on May 14, 2010 1:28 PM
nacoran
1856 posts
May 14, 2010
12:58 PM
If you can tap into the ethereal for knowledge, why do you need GPS?

Sorry. :) Just being silly. I've experienced time dilation in times of stress. I've always attributed it to disassociation related to the fight or flight response. I've done meditation, PMR mostly, and found it very useful for getting things back into perspective. When things are in perspective solutions you couldn't see before appear. My version is all very scientific, but I think although we are talking about different causes it sounds like the same phenomena. It's almost an out of body thing.

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Nate
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Buddha
1848 posts
May 14, 2010
1:04 PM
"If you can tap into the ethereal for knowledge, why do you need GPS?"


I don't. I never would have purchased one for myself. about ten years ago, I was in chicago driving around with some friends and we were thoroughly lost. I asked to drive and said I was use "the force" I said it in a joking manner but I got us where we needed to be, without knowledge of the area and without a map.
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"There are said to be pleasures in madness, known only to madmen."
nacoran
1859 posts
May 14, 2010
1:10 PM
I can usually find where I'm going too, but only until the sun goes down and if I have lots of gas in the tank. I don't actually use the lots of gas, but being nervous about running out ruins my mojo.
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Heart2Harp
55 posts
May 14, 2010
2:42 PM
@ Buddha

Have you ever been experimented on by seriously trained scientists. If you indeed posess those qualities you claim to posess (and I'm willing to suspend my judgment on that), than it seems to me that this kind of stuff could be tested in a lab. And if science were to discover these gifts (with your help) and ways to bring them to others, you would have done humankind an amazing service. What do you think?
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Heart2Harp

Heart2Harp
Buddha
1853 posts
May 14, 2010
2:55 PM
yes, when I used to work for a psychiatrist who was studying touretes, we hooked me up to various equipment. There's nothing special about me other than I use both sides of my brain more than most. I don't seem to have a dominant side like most people. However, he said it was very typical of left handed people who grow up in strict environments and have science based careers.

He said he did notice unusual brain activity when I play music but had not studied musicians enough to say that it was truly unusual. Maybe it's a musician thing maybe not, he doesn't see it in other creative artists but has seen similar things in chefs.


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"There are said to be pleasures in madness, known only to madmen."

Last Edited by on May 14, 2010 2:56 PM
ElkRiverHarmonicas
417 posts
May 14, 2010
4:57 PM
Dave sez:
"Hey Buddha, how about putting in a good word to the ether for me?"
Budda sez:
no because it's you that has to believe in the power of all. You clearly aren't open enough to ask for yourself so it will never come to you because on one level or another you are projecting doubt and rejection.

Dave replies:
Well, just tell it Dave Payne says 'hey." ;)
bluemoose
195 posts
May 14, 2010
4:58 PM
Hummm...I do fine muscle activities left handed (write, eat, play guitar), large muscle activities right handed (throw, kick) and stuff in the middle I can do with either hand (table tennis, badminton) plus I'm a computer techie science guy who has been doing all the cooking for 30+ years.
"Unusual brain activity." That could explain it. I did see god once.
bluemoose
197 posts
May 14, 2010
10:32 PM
Well nasty...since you asked, here's my take on this.

It's taking the inward and realizing it's all outward.
It's taking the now and realizing it's always been.
It's looking for yourself but finding selflessness.
It's wanting love but finally seeing that love is everything. (The Beatles were right!)

At that point the muse talks to you but you now know it's been whispering all along.
conjob
55 posts
May 15, 2010
12:19 AM
"There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. And I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon" -Hunter S Thompson

Buddah i'd advise you to stay right away from that shit its bad for you believe me.
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conjob
lumpy wafflesquirt
205 posts
May 15, 2010
12:42 AM
On a serious note
Buddah - are you familiar with the books of Neale Donald Walsch?
they may explain to you the 'time thing' that you talk about as well as the 'communication thing'.
"Conversations with God 1, 2 & £"


on a lighter note, as Douglas Adams said - time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so.


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Buddha
1856 posts
May 15, 2010
6:26 AM
conjob,

you have to understand that I never sought out the experiences, I have always been this way. Even as a child I would tell others what I saw. I remember being 9 years old and I told everybody that I could there would be a fire at the school "next tuesday."

Well there was a fire just as I saw it but you know what? I got in trouble for it. I had to talk with the police about why I started the fire. I didn't, but nobody believe me. From that point, I ignored everything that I saw, heard and felt for years then the visits would come. I have always seen spirits and other entities for as long as I can remember but after I refused to acknowledge them they only got louder so I learned to embrass and accept what was happening. I'm very aware, especially now, of who and what tries to use me. I don't allow that. Because of all that, I have learned to see and feel people on an energy level. It's hard for me to explain, when I see people, anybody, I can see them as a person, but they are always blurry and I have to focus on one or the other. Most of the time, I just focus on the energy side because energy doesn't deceive, it just presents itself in it's true form. If you want bad, bad will come but if you want good then good will come.

I don't want anybody to think that I'm into floating around the astral because I don't do that, in fact there is a war going on between 14 factions of energy and if you don't know what you're doing it's very easy to become absorbed and to become part of one of those groups. I just stay away and stay connected to the universe.

I have encountered many "pychics" most of whom tell, me, they see a big beam of light coming from off earth and directly into my head, this is my connection. I know, if I do not hear the flow of music then the connect has been interrupted, sometimes by beings in the lower astral but usually simply caused by the pressure and stress I feel in this world.

@lumpy I have never read books on this subject. Everything I talk about comes from somewhere else and as I have experienced it.





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"There are said to be pleasures in madness, known only to madmen."
BillBailey
97 posts
May 15, 2010
6:52 AM
Does Sylvia Brown, et al., play the harp?
Ryan
277 posts
May 15, 2010
10:55 AM
Perhaps you should look up James Randi, he is willing to give you a million dollars if you can demonstrate these abilities that you have. Assuming you can perform them under test conditions.

Speaking of Sylivia Brown, she's been asked to take this challenge several times, but she always refuses(I guess she doesn't need the extra million). Although I don't blame her, every time she's tried to show her "abilities" during anything slightly resembling test conditions, she's always failed miserably.
BillBailey
103 posts
May 15, 2010
11:29 AM
@Ryan: Actually Sylvia Brown agreed to take The Amazing Randi's challenge about four years ago. According to a lecture on 'TED Talk' by Randi, the old gal said she could not find him. A psychic could not find the Randi Foundation! What a hoot! As you said, she and all the rest have ducked Randi's challenge.

Here's the 'TED Talk' link: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/james_randi.html

Last Edited by on May 15, 2010 11:29 AM


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