Frankie
84 posts
Mar 12, 2018
11:19 PM
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two screws do not sit tightly I suppose you can use other tools though
paid 50 dolalrs
Last Edited by Frankie on Mar 19, 2018 1:36 AM
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the_happy_honker
287 posts
Mar 13, 2018
2:53 PM
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Just curious, how is a reed wrench the only usable tool? Suzuki harps have welded reeds and cannot be adjusted.
And can't the files be used for pitch adjustment?
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SuperBee
5324 posts
Mar 13, 2018
3:15 PM
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Hmm, I suppose the reed wrench is the only harp-specific tool. The issue isn’t about Suzuki harmonicas.
$50: is it expensive for a pair of files, 2 screwdrivers, a reed wrench, bag and something I can’t quite make out but looks like a stick?
That would depend mainly on the quality of the files and screwdrivers but probably a little pricey.
On the other hand, would you not examine a description of contents before purchase?
I expect you could assemble your own kit piecemeal somewhat more cheaply.
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florida-trader
1273 posts
Mar 14, 2018
10:21 AM
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Frankie - If you don't like what you got for $50, I wouls suggest that you return it and get your money back. Any reputable dealer will do the right thing.
the_happy_honker - a little known fact is that even though Suzuki reeds are welded, they can still be swiveled to center them. The weld is just a dot in the center of the reed pad and it almost looks and acts like a rivet. When you get into building high end overblow and overdraw harps, after you have embossed the reed slots and tighted up the tolerances, you will find that many of the Suzuki reeds need to be centered with a reed wrench - just like Hohners.
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Tom Halchak
Blue Moon Harmonicas
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AppalachiaBlues
134 posts
Mar 14, 2018
10:38 AM
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Thanks Tom - that's news to me. I've never looked too closely at the welds on my Suzukis. Does that also apply to Suzuki chromatics, like the Sirius?
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florida-trader
1274 posts
Mar 14, 2018
11:46 AM
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AppalachiaBlues - I don't for know sure. I don't work on chromatics, but I would imagine that Suzuki uses the same technology on the chromatic reed plates that they do on their diatonics. If I was a gambling man, which I am, I would bet that you can swivel the reeds on your chromatics too. Gnarly Heman would be the guy to ask.
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Tom Halchak
Blue Moon Harmonicas
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hot4blues
108 posts
Mar 17, 2018
3:16 AM
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Frankie, $50.00 for the Suzuki HRT-01 tool kit? Okay, so if the tools are ill fitted, then yes, a waste of money. But go check out what Suzuki wants for their HRT-10 repair kit - $600.00! And that's the price at Rockin Ron's. So you can only imagine the price elsewhere. Prices aren't cheap. And if you own several brand harps/chroms, the price of buying everything you need can run well over a thousand dollars (tool kits, screws, buffers (for chromatics)). It's enough to either stay with just one brand of harp/chromatic (wishful thinking), or send them out for repairs. I'm lucky because even though I own various harps & chroms, no problems yet. I play softly, but the playing can get hard, especially if I'm practicing my scales to a metronome & I start getting into the 120+ bpm. But that's relegated to my one chromatic (my Seydel Chromatic Standard 12 hole that I picked up at Rockin Ron's for only $75.00), so no regrets on my part. But now I know how auto mechanics feel when the Snap-On tool truck arrives at the shop, selling the mechanic a set of hand wrenches costing about $300.00 that can be purchased at Home Depot for about 1/10 less.
Last Edited by hot4blues on Mar 17, 2018 3:18 AM
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Flbl
141 posts
Mar 17, 2018
5:35 AM
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I got the Zajac tool kit from Rons, mow it's not cheap, but I think you get what you pay for with it.
It has the tools that he makes a packet of hard ware, and detailed instructions on how to use everything, but no cheap screw drivers.
I guess it's assumed that if you are going to do more advanced work, you would already own basic tools.
Rons has it now for $179.50.
That $600.00 Suzuki kit has a 3 month wait time, and it looks like it's mainly for reed replacement.
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SuperBee
5328 posts
Mar 17, 2018
1:52 PM
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A 3 month wait time ... and you can’t get the reeds anyway
Last Edited by SuperBee on Mar 17, 2018 1:53 PM
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Gnarly
2450 posts
Mar 18, 2018
12:18 AM
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When I got the Lee Oskar kit long ago, I was disappointed--and didn't use much except the file.
I don't think the HRT-1 is sold in the US--and we don't stock the HRT-10 for obvious reasons. I HAVE used the HRT-10 on harps other than Suzuki, with good results.
And yes, the reeds are welded on Suzuki chromatic reeds, just the same as on the diatonic.
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AppalachiaBlues
139 posts
Mar 18, 2018
2:08 PM
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Hi Gnarly, The question was not whether they have the welded reeds, but rather if the welded reeds pivot,as Tom described.
I always assumed the benefits of welded reeds are:
1. no deformation of reed plate from drilling (which can cause leaky seat with comb)
2. no protruding rivet (which can cause leaky seat with comb)
3. reeds will not pivot (mis-aligning with the reedslot)
The 3rd benefit was always the strongest in my mind. Now Tom has blown that assumption out of the water. I will have to open up a Manji and check for myself. If it is welded, I don't really understand how it can pivot. But I believe Tom - he knows his stuff.
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Mar 18, 2018 2:10 PM
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Gnarly
2453 posts
Mar 19, 2018
7:37 PM
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Occasionally I need to swivel a welded Suzuki reed, and have yet to accidentally twist too much and take it off.
Not that I couldn't fix that with a screw, but it hasn't happened yet.
Chromatic reeds swivel too, don't get carried away.
Last Edited by Gnarly on Mar 19, 2018 7:37 PM
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kudzurunner
6452 posts
Mar 19, 2018
8:12 PM
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As majordomo, I've decided, without prompting, to remove the catalog number from the title of this thread. There's no need for that. It will be apparent to any reader of the thread which product is being panned.
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Goldbrick
1946 posts
Mar 20, 2018
7:05 AM
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@ hot4blues
The reasons mechanics will pay for snap on
1-They come to you
2 will usually replace a broken tool
3 and most important will usually let guys buy on store credit even if their regular credit is not good
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MP
3571 posts
Mar 20, 2018
4:48 PM
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AppalachiaBlues. I didn't think they would pivot either....but they do. So far I've yet to find an advantage to welded reeds. Maybe it's an advantage to Suzuki?
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