kudzurunner
4666 posts
May 04, 2014
5:52 PM
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We've posted occasional videos of this sort--isaacullah, in particular, has done this--but the combined onslaught of so many practitioners exhibiting so much creativity offered THIS blues harmonica player a kind of revelation. Here is where the musical cutting edge is. Or was, in 2009.
I don't believe I've seen any contemporary blues harmonica player who exhibits a similar level of creative interaction with the actual sonic environment of the world in which we live. That's too bad. Perhaps somebody can step up.
(Train songs are so.....early 20th century. Fox chases! Gimme a break. Old, old, ancient shit whose time has passed. Unless your thing is Al Jolson singing "Mammy," it's time to move on.)
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SuperBee
1948 posts
May 04, 2014
6:29 PM
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Ah yeah, you won't believe your ears... Whatever turns you on I guess. Syncopated fart noises, mosquito impressions, air skeet shooting...it's all a bit juicy-sounding to me..like when the announcer forgot to remove his gum before getting on the mic. I appreciate the fact these cats have acquired some skills that probably get them some kudos in their environment...but it's not my bag. That whole environment...isn't where I live. I'm not hip. I dig that. And I'm cool with it. Daddy-0
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jnorem
184 posts
May 04, 2014
6:38 PM
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Why must all blues harp players watch this video? ---------- Call me J
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jnorem
185 posts
May 04, 2014
6:39 PM
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Last Edited by jnorem on May 04, 2014 6:39 PM
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Jehosaphat
733 posts
May 04, 2014
7:19 PM
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I think maybe Kudzu is just taking the piss....
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Jehosaphat
734 posts
May 04, 2014
7:20 PM
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I think maybe Kudzu is just taking the piss....
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Komuso
305 posts
May 04, 2014
7:45 PM
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Thing is, if you do a "traditional" train song on a harp nowdays any kid who lives in a modern train environment is not going to know wtf you are trying to emulate.
Modern trains don't sound remotely anything like puffing billy.
Maybe train chuggers need to update their sound palette? ---------- Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa HarpNinja - Your harmonica Mojo Dojo Bringing the Boogie to the Bitstream
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The Iceman
1625 posts
May 04, 2014
7:46 PM
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Train sounds and fox chases were the "sound of the street"...in their day.
Beat Boxing is the current "sound of the street". It's what's happening now.
No reason not to put a little "what's happening now" into one's music to keep evolving. ---------- The Iceman
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eharp
2151 posts
May 04, 2014
8:08 PM
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Everyone recognizes a train done on harp.
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jnorem
187 posts
May 04, 2014
8:37 PM
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"No reason not to put a little "what's happening now" into one's music to keep evolving."
It's wonderful that you keep evolving. I'm looking forward to your demonstration of how you have "put a little of what's happening now", as it was displayed in the video, into your harmonica playing. When can we expect to hear that? ---------- Call me J
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Komuso
306 posts
May 04, 2014
9:42 PM
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Like this?
---------- Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa HarpNinja - Your harmonica Mojo Dojo Bringing the Boogie to the Bitstream
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nacoran
7708 posts
May 04, 2014
9:52 PM
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It's interesting, even the beatboxers seem to be broken up into guys chasing a traditional drum kit sound and guys doing 'electronica'. :)
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Goldbrick
420 posts
May 04, 2014
10:45 PM
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-This is a train-
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easyreeder
458 posts
May 04, 2014
10:48 PM
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I assume that by "train songs" you really meant "train sound effects", since most train songs are train WRECK songs, and there's nothing more current than that subject.
Regardless, I don't get the point of the comparison. You have to go out of your way to find anybody who's recording fox chase and train sounds today. Who are you aiming at with that comparison?
I watched the entire video despite being bored within less than a minute, for the same reason I get bored listening to Pan American Blues. It's impressive, but it never develops into anything more interesting than what it starts out as, which is an imitation of something else. You seem to be arguing that harmonica players should do more of what folks like, say, Deford Bailey did.
It's easy to recognize the work that must go into learning to beat box, and the difference in skill level and innovation between the performances in that video, but I didn't hear anything that sounded particularly new or "fresh". Just nine some minutes of people doing variations of the same sound effects. In other words, Fox chases and train sounds without the harmonica. Beat boxing is so....yesterday.
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easyreeder
459 posts
May 04, 2014
10:52 PM
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@Goldbrick: No, that's the music my father the train fanatic raised us with.
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slackwater
50 posts
May 04, 2014
11:26 PM
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I never watch stuff that people tell me I must watch.
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Aussiesucker
1384 posts
May 05, 2014
12:08 AM
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Sucked in for 30 seconds of this shit! I prefer the sounds of trains on harmonica anyday! ---------- HARPOLDIE’S YOUTUBE
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Komuso
307 posts
May 05, 2014
1:08 AM
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No, THIS is a train!
---------- Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa HarpNinja - Your harmonica Mojo Dojo Bringing the Boogie to the Bitstream
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Jim Rumbaugh
988 posts
May 05, 2014
3:53 AM
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Here we are at MODERN blues harmonica.
Beatboxing IS modern. Look at the age of the the contenders for the "World Championship"
I remember how excited I was when I heard Ozzie Osborn in 1971. That same sound is not do exciting to me today.
I remember in 1971, reading in in American Federation of Musician's trade magazine, an article where the writer said he just did not find "modern" music with only 3 chords interesting.
Perhaps the term "Modern Blues" is an oxymoron ?
---------- theharmonicaclub.com (of Huntington, WV)
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sonny3
169 posts
May 05, 2014
4:09 AM
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Yeah, we all need to get creative around here.Go outside and listen to the world.That's what those country harp guys were doing.Aren't there guys doing harp and beatbox together?
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Goldbrick
421 posts
May 05, 2014
4:55 AM
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@easy I would rather listen to that steam engine than whats on the radio these days
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tookatooka
3650 posts
May 05, 2014
5:15 AM
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Maybe if we started to learn to do some harp spinning as an added visual effect?
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kudzurunner
4668 posts
May 05, 2014
5:27 AM
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Iceman gets it, as does sonny3.
If you know the history of blues harmonica--and not everybody does--you know that train songs, fox chases, and other programmatic, creatively imitative music based on the actual sonic environment of the time (in this case, the early 1990's in the deep and mid-South) is an essential strand of our heritage. In at least one case, Freeman Stowers's "Texas Wild Cat Chase," the player doesn't actually play the harmonica; he does it all with his lips and vocal chords, just like the beat boxers:
I loved my 1994 Mac PowerBook, but at a certain point, Mr. Disco Ball and Mr. Platform Heels, an update is required. I refuse to believe that we're all condemned merely to repeat and embroider the truly creative stuff that the people who came along before us saw fit to bequeath to us.
@easyreeder: Every single video you could paste here, right now, will be "yesterday" tomorrow. But speaking broadly, the form of creativity reflected by the beatboxing video at the top of this page is Today relative to.....well, "Juke," for example, which very much has the sound of the Day Before Yesterday. 95% of the lessons I sell on this website have the sound of yesterday. But my hope has always been to inspire younger players (and a few adventurous oldsters) to open their ears towards what's actually out there right now.
That's what most of the great players have always done. That's certainly what Big and Little Walter did. "Rocket 88" was a song celebrating a powerful new postwar car. A similar song today would celebrate the Tesla, and it would have a different groove than "Rocket 88."
@Goldbrick: I'm fine with your attitude, as long as you understand just how far it removes you from the attitude toward music-making that drove the great players celebrated on this website, ALL of whom were not only listening to the pop hits of their day, but were actively ripping them off and trying to sample bits and pieces of them into their own music, which they hoped would be hits on the radio. Little Walter ripped off Joe Liggins's R&B hit, "The Honeydripper," to create the harp part on "Evans Shuffle."
A Little Walter attitude these days would find a harp player, for example, adapting the melody and or chord progression of Pharrell's "Happy" into something new.
The beatboxing video is simply a roadmap. It shows a community of creative musicians listening to the full spectrum of postmodern sounds, ephemera of club life, forty years of hip-hop, dance, techno, turntablism, and spinning it all into a playful pastiche, breaking the groove and reconstructing the groove. It updates Freeman Stowers. There are other ways one could do that, of course.
I think that a lot of blues people want to engage in a kind of ghost dance, bemoaning the fact that "young people don't listen to the blues anymore" without confronting why that is. Isaac has been beating this particular dead horse for a while. I think the answer is that many of us have forgotten what creativity actually looks and sounds like--or, importantly, what form it took in the early years of the blues harmonica tradition. Deford Bailey talks in his autobiography about how hard he worked to replicate the sound of certain trains that blew through Nashville. He'd haunt the tunnels, copying, testing, adapting.
A contemporary blues harmonica player with open ears who wanted to manifest that sort of creative relationship with the world would recognize how much useful information is contained in the beatboxing video. It doesn't mean that the beatboxers are the ONLY way forward. It does mean that they are one way forward.
Again, I've known for a long time that many blues harmonica players aren't interested in that sort of cutting-edge creativity--although they claim they're interested in Little Walter. They're missing half of what Little Walter, and Big Walter, and Rice Miller, and Junior Well, were about.
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Frank
4205 posts
May 05, 2014
5:57 AM
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Extremely entertaining displays of beats and grooves from those guys...It is almost too amazing to seem true what I am hearing - I would love to hear a beat boxer of their caliber up close and live to have my mind blown!
I believe there are harp players out there that have a very modern twist on music --- But this site is not "cool enough" to hold their interest...
There needs to be WEBSITE, that is truly dedicated to harp players who strive to be modern marvels on the harmonica - where they can hang out and encourage each other without the interference of vision-less players throwing water on the flames of ingenuity :)
And to join the site you must give a video of how you are advancing the harmonica in directions that few others have thought of :)
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Goldbrick
422 posts
May 05, 2014
5:59 AM
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@ Kudzu
There is music that we listen to for pleasure as musicians and there is music we hope is commercial because that is our job.
I make no apology that I listen to T model Ford ,Hasil Adkins and Link Wray
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The Iceman
1626 posts
May 05, 2014
6:15 AM
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Nothing seems to divide this community more than suggesting that players modernize their thinking...after all, this site is called Modern Blues Harmonica.
Like an old dog with a towel clamped in his mouth, many have a hard time letting go of old mind sets.
It's not an insult to suggest modernization.
The beat boxing is very current. This is not to suggest that harmonica players recreate this exact sound while playing, but only to listen to what is happening now.
I would venture to say that those that only hear noise and insects buzzing are of an older generation.
Personally, I was amazed at the variety of sounds as well as the solid groove displayed. Also, I loved that the Australian incorporated didgereedoo sounds, reflecting his personal culture.
At the risk of attracting criticism, why can't we start to put a little of our current world and personal culture into our playing to make it more uniquely ours?
Miles Davis was constantly trying to apply his unique trumpet voice to a background of current sounds.
Although he angered the fans that wanted to hear his old stuff, he did evolve and create new forms of music in his journey.
Even the most ardent critics had to agree that if you remove the rhythm tracks, Miles trumpet sounded pretty much the same through these evolutions (aside from his wah-wah trumpet explorations). ---------- The Iceman
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Philosofy
543 posts
May 05, 2014
7:15 AM
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Thoughts from an old fogey of 51.
First, I do realize that as people get older, we get set in our ways. People who were my age in the ‘50’s never accepted rock and roll. So, I will try to put aside my prejudices, but I may not be completely successful.
The Good side of beat boxing: 1. Its different 2. Forces the artist to be creative with rhythms. 3. Low barrier to entry. You don’t have to buy a piano, or even a harmonica. Your voice is it.
The Bad side of beat boxing: 1. No melody. You can’t whistle a really neat beat box song. 2. No rules. (And by this, I mean things like keys of music, etc. I’m reminded by some saying that goes like “predictable music is boring. Unpredictable music is noise”. You have to get the listener engaged. Beat boxing doesn’t do that for me.) 3. Much of it is just imitation: of a drum kit, of vinyl record skipping, etc. (Yes, I realize the harp imitates a train.) 4. It has more of a novelty flavor than actual music (wow, he’s making all those noises with his mouth!)
Adam, the more I think about it, the more I think your goal of “Modern Blues Harmonica” might not be achievable. It seems you (we) are waiting for the Jimi Hendrix of the harmonica. Someone to turn the instrument on its ear. We’ve pinned our hopes on several innovators: Howard Levy, Sugar Blue, Jason Ricci, Dennis Gruenling, Brandon Bailey. But the closest we’ve come to anyone breaking into the mainstream is John Popper. I think the harmonica will always be with us, but whoever does that new thing we are waiting for, it won’t be called blues, just as rock isn’t called blues. Maybe the website should be named “Modern Harmonica” ?.
All that being said, there is music out there that I think is new and innovative. Jason Mraz blows me away, particularly “I’m Yours.” Rapid fire lyrics that actually mean something, a catchy melody: that’s some cool stuff, and has a lot of rap influence.
Can a harp player learn some stuff from a beat boxer? Sure. Brandon’s a good example. The lip/tongue/vocal chord dexterity of a beat boxer is impressive, and can only help a harp player. But the more we bring things in, the more modern we get, the less blues we have. I don’t think that’s a bad thing, but blues is so old I don’t think we can innovate off of it and it still be called blues. Which is good: if beat boxing was just a genre of the blues, I don’t think many kids would be interested.
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The Iceman
1627 posts
May 05, 2014
7:26 AM
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Why not consider a duo....beat boxer and harmonica.
Not too different from drummer and harmonica, but more contemporary. ---------- The Iceman
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Komuso
308 posts
May 05, 2014
7:28 AM
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>> It seems you (we) are waiting for the Jimi Hendrix of the harmonica.
Johnny Mars has been doing that for decades
---------- Paul Cohen aka Komuso Tokugawa HarpNinja - Your harmonica Mojo Dojo Bringing the Boogie to the Bitstream
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BigBlindRay
225 posts
May 05, 2014
7:33 AM
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The Indians (Not Americans) have been doing this for thousands of years. It's nothing new.
They , however must learn the voice before they can play tabla, then must learn Tabla before they can play Citar. It's such a profound method of learning Rhythm and melody as it is taught all by ear, yet they have established such an amazing neurological pathway between the brain and their instrument.
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 Big Blind Ray Trio Website Big Blind Ray Trio Facebook Page Big Blind Ray Trio on Bandcamp
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The Iceman
1628 posts
May 05, 2014
7:34 AM
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Perhaps not so much a revolution...Jimi Hendrix style on harmonica, but evolution - a slow incorporating of current attitude/sounds to dust off the cobwebs a bit.
Not for everyone, but if even a few start to conceive from a different place, it will begin the process. ---------- The Iceman
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eharp
2152 posts
May 05, 2014
7:35 AM
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When I listened to the vid, and I almost made it thru its entirety, all i heard were mostly sound effects that I heard from comedians of the 60's & 70's but with some rhythm.
That one guy from Police Academy brought it back out of the closet in the 80's for some new folks to try.
I sure I don't hear much of our times "sonic environment" here. Or am i misunderstanding this term? I mean, I go outside and i do not hear anything like this except on the radio (the beats) or the movies.
Perhaps some of the proponents of the modernization, sonic environment, "what's happening now" would throw us some of their attempts of incorporating it into the blues/harp.
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The Iceman
1629 posts
May 05, 2014
7:38 AM
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Using Miles Davis as a reference, his current awareness was based on what was happening on the streets in the most up to date happening places...NYC, LA, etc. Not so much walking outside of a country home and listening.
Personally, my modernization is mostly through exploring new linear development in improv and not as much percussive beat box sounds, although inspiration lives everywhere around us.
To each his own. ---------- The Iceman
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DukeBerryman
366 posts
May 05, 2014
7:44 AM
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I play along to the car alarms in my neighborhood. The common toot-toot-toot-toot is a C and provides a steady rhythm. I try recreate on the harp just about any sound I hear. When I was a kid, I thought the old blues guys were trying to imitate farm animals, and I still try to do my best squawking chicken and mooing cow.
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eharp
2153 posts
May 05, 2014
7:53 AM
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Need to wait till the 2:45 mark. (But was this anyone's sonic environment?)
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Tuckster
1406 posts
May 05, 2014
8:13 AM
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Those beatboxers employ a nice mixture of lip pursing AND tongue blocking. There is a talent involved there but 9 minutes was too much for me. Bottom line is-Is it music? Not much to me. To me,modern blues is as oxymoronic as modern classical. You can only take the genre so far until it becomes something else. You are inherently locked in to the form. If you want to call it something else then,that's fine by me.
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groyster1
2593 posts
May 05, 2014
9:29 AM
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do not care for this atall
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Goldbrick
423 posts
May 05, 2014
9:39 AM
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I guess it all comes down to what we choose to name as " blues"
Chuck said it best I have no kicks against modern jazz Unless they try to play it too darn fast And change the beauty of the melody Until it sounds just like a symphony
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LSC
629 posts
May 05, 2014
10:43 AM
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All art is by definition subjective, with that in mind forgive me if I say I found nothing "musical" in the beatbox clip. I didn't even think it was particularly good or creative beatbox compared to other examples I have heard.
As far as the more general discussion of moving the genre of blues forward, yeah "modern blues" is perhaps an oxymoron. One could argue that jazz, rock and roll, or rock are all much better examples of "modern blues" in that each are based on the blues but went to someplace different and "new". If one accepts that premise then to point at an artist and say they are new and have moved the blues form forward one must then create a whole new label.
I don't know Adam, citing these beatbox kids as an example of something harmonica players might take inspiration from is not a view I would buy into personally. Music should contain some semblance of melody, even a drum solo played properly has a melody. More to the point, music, and blues in particular, should have an emotional content. Playing at a constant rapid speed like you're getting paid by the note ala John Popper leaves me cold. I never have been a big fan of Jason Ricci for much the same reason though I have heard him play some stuff that did have intensity. But like I said, art is subjective. I'm more into the Jerry Portnoy school where much of the emotional impact lies in the space between notes, dynamics, tension and release.
And as far as examples of what might be called more accurately "modern" blues, oddly enough I might cite someone like Paul Oscher. Yes he plays traditional blues songs and there is no mistaking his influences but on the other hand he uses a pretty big array of pedals and off the wall instruments for a unique tonal pallet. And guys like Greg Izor certainly play in a traditional style but nonetheless I find a freshness in what he brings to the party.
Ultimately? Modern shmodern. It's either good or bad. You like it or you don't. To each his/her own. ---------- LSC ---------- LSC
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isaacullah
2737 posts
May 05, 2014
10:56 AM
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Taking the video in the OP at face value, I'd simply add, why not add some of these sounds into a modern interpretation of Blues?
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Diggsblues
1326 posts
May 05, 2014
11:56 AM
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I think Mayall did it before anybody.
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atty1chgo
915 posts
May 05, 2014
12:32 PM
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I agree with Adam that this is "cutting edge" and "contemporary" but I hesitate to call it music. It's rhythmic noise. But I do agree that the essence of creativity can be drawn from, the IDEA of creativity without liking what these kids are doing.
In response to the statement "I think that a lot of blues people want to engage in a kind of ghost dance, bemoaning the fact that "young people don't listen to the blues anymore" without confronting why that is." -
-- The reason why "that is" is that young people are not exposed to the types or variety of music, in school and in their daily lives, as people of my age (57.5 years) were. I'm not saying that they had to like it, but they have not been exposed to it, and therefore have not been given a CHANCE or OPPORTUNITY to like it. In addition, if hypothetically a percentage of today's children had the blues promoted to them and really liked it, they would pass it on to their peers. Instead, they are captive audiences of the media who TELLS them what sounds good and what is popular.
If children are exposed to bebop jazz or classical or 60's soul music or blues, it is usually from their parents. If someone is exposed to music, they may or may not like it, but that is an open question.
It is also the SOCIETY that the kids in the video are growing up in. I would submit that the kids in the video live in a socio-economic strata which is primarily urban, black and Latino, undereducated and either poor or limited economically. Many poor white kids probably listen to country music and its offshoots, but at least there is some music going on there.
Since urban young people listen to the hip hop noise (that calls itself music) thrown at them in and by the media, the sort of expression in the video does not surprise me.
But all is not lost. Go to the Kingston Mines in Chicago on a Friday or Saturday night. The crowd is NOT all old folks, there are plenty of people in their 30's there. There is still hope for the blues, and for civilization, without having to revert to the type of expression in the video which I find to be pointless.
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CarlA
499 posts
May 05, 2014
12:37 PM
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I think that if more harmonica players would take their musical direction and journey more seriously, and would be more willing to take "artistic" risks in their playing, blues harmonica players would be MUCH more prevailant. This is a great example..,..
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dougharps
607 posts
May 05, 2014
1:36 PM
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Well, I don't know that ALL blues harp players need to watch the video, but it didn't hurt to watch it. It was more of a curiosity to me than anything that might apply to my making music. There was a lot of talent in producing the sounds and rhythms in real time, but it doesn't appeal to me in my music.
Just to put this in context, I had a similar opinion of heavy metal and death metal. I could not relate to it as rock and roll. I also never got into scratching in hip hop, or into rap, for that matter, even though my son liked it. However, that doesn't mean that I don't recognize the skill needed to produce those art forms.
It seems similar to my not caring for the big band swing and the boogie-woogie my father listened to from the 30s to the 70s. He didn't like my music either. Now I perform "Roll 'em Pete," a song I heard on an old 78 of his, and I enjoy jump blues and Texas swing.
A fair amount of what music I have played since the '70s on diatonic and chromatic would not fit the styles defined by a blues purist or a chromatic standards player. I have always been drawn to a style that was a bit busier than straight blues, probably more like rock and roll harp. Even on chromatic. I learned to play to "Sympathy for the Devil" on a G chromatic when jamming in the 70s.
New musicians need to present their art in forms and in contexts that appeal to their audiences. I have no problem with those who pursue this. There are young musicians and audiences that enjoy the older styles, but it is good that people continue to innovate and push boundaries.
While it may not be what I want to play, and I may choose to not listen to it on an ongoing basis, I can still respect the skill needed, and if it appeals to others, that is fine with me.
Edit: I have never been a fan of fox chases or train songs. They seemed to be self-indulgent exercises in showing techniques rather than music. I don't mind a train reference during a song mentioning trains, but long solo talent displays don't excite me. Cream's song "Train Time" seemed cool back in the day. ----------
Doug S.
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Frank
4206 posts
May 05, 2014
1:40 PM
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This never gets old :)
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Frank
4207 posts
May 05, 2014
4:39 PM
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Imagine being at a very hip 2014 festival where all the cool music is going on with the young generation--
And Muddy and his band who are on this record appear from the past and are on the same bill with the beatboxers etc, etc...How do you think they would do - would the kids dig it? :)
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Aussiesucker
1385 posts
May 05, 2014
5:00 PM
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Amazing mix of views and responses. It just goes to show that we can't all be right or wrong & that music should bring us together rather than divide. ---------- HARPOLDIE’S YOUTUBE
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Dragonbreath
4 posts
May 05, 2014
5:27 PM
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I find the post interesting. I relate to it in some ways. First I find it funny to call beatboxing modern but that's not the point. It is ironic though that they are mimicking scratching sounds which is done with records in reality, records that are possibly very old also, like old soul or maybe even some old blues. Well they make cool sound effects. But I think we have enough cool sound effects already. We have bends, vibratos, overblows, octaves, chicago sounds, acoustic, you name it. I love the sounds of the harp, that's why I started harping. But one thing we have in common with beatboxing is that our sounds are just cool soundeffects if they arent used to create a groove. What we could learn from the video is the importance of good grooves and beats. I'm not sure some of the guys in the video actually did any beats at all despite of them simulating a box that does beats but yeah, what I was thinking about was that something that makes music sound new is fresh beats and maybe we need some fresh blues beats. Groovy and new. Old trains and foxchases can always sound new again if creating a fresh groove. Maybe the posted video can inspire us to come up with our own groove enhancements that fit our style, but mainly it's not about the sounds, it's how you use them. I like harping that incorporates a good rythm beat and melody. But I haven't been playing very long so maybe you could post some inspiring videos of nice rhythm harping. Licks, runs, trains, foxes, whatever.
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Dragonbreath
5 posts
May 05, 2014
5:45 PM
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And I just want to add that SBWII's chugging and melody in Help Me is still the freshest harp sound I've heard.
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Frank
4209 posts
May 05, 2014
7:06 PM
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Those beat boxers sound to me like they are playing the music in this video with just their bodies :)
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