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Martin
295 posts
Apr 04, 2013
3:18 PM
Perhaps not "unbelievably bad" but just bad, which is bad enough. Beginners level. Audience´s standards of what to expect from harmonica players are deplorable.
didjcripey
514 posts
Apr 04, 2013
3:34 PM
If he's well respected and gets plenty of gigs, then you should be right to blitz the scene. Good position to be in.
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nacoran
6653 posts
Apr 04, 2013
4:43 PM
Meh.

I'm not sure I'm fond of the riff he keeps going back to for this particular piece of music, but if this is 'unbelievably bad' you've lead a charmed life and dodged the horrors that can be live harmonica (or live music in general). Something that came up after it, "There ya go" by Beats Antique had some nice horn work in it.

edit: looking up the Beats Antique track, it seems to feature John Popper.

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Last Edited by nacoran on Apr 04, 2013 4:45 PM
Harp2swing
85 posts
Apr 04, 2013
4:45 PM
4 months maybe, surely not 40 years!
Tweedaddict
5 posts
Apr 04, 2013
5:08 PM
Well,
He's out there doing it and good for him!
Jim Rumbaugh
855 posts
Apr 04, 2013
6:23 PM
I would not say "Unbelievably BAD"
I might say disapointing.

So I'll use this as place to make a few points. Let's look at what was done right

If you want to sound good, be surrounded by people better than yourself. (he is)
There is more to being a succesful musician than being a good musician. (he is)
When in doubt, keep it simple, in rhythm, and in tune. (he did)

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CarlA
310 posts
Apr 04, 2013
8:08 PM
it actually sounded pretty good IMO. Sometimes we forget that the simple stuff is often times more effective than always trying to go for broke!

-Carl
Goldbrick
133 posts
Apr 04, 2013
10:12 PM
I found it pretty boring,lacking feeling and to my ear , a bit out of tune. But there is so much good music to listen to -I can be a bit too intolerant when I hear this type thing
harmonicanick
1854 posts
Apr 05, 2013
12:26 AM
@harpburn

Harsh, and not fair IMHO. Maybe you are being provocative; I do that sometimes on this forum:)

You better get over the bridge to Bristol mate
6SN7
300 posts
Apr 05, 2013
3:09 AM
The combo reminds me of a band that gets a slot at the local club. Nothing, well, flashy, but they have lots of friends and family that drink and they can turn out an audience of 100. The club owner loves the fact he lights up the register and makes it ring. Its not all about the perpetuating the idiom when doing a gig, its keeping folks in their seats or dancing and drinking and eating. That's business baby!

Last Edited by 6SN7 on Apr 05, 2013 4:53 AM
jbone
1219 posts
Apr 05, 2013
4:45 AM
I would have liked it if he'd done some 3rd position playing and paid attention to dynamics. It was hard to tell his rhythm stuff from an actual turnaround since volume and note saturation were pretty much the same.
I am a 40 year player and in this guy's defense, I was lackluster for the first 20, until I humbled myself and became more a student than a player. I have learned so much in recent years.

If he's out making a buck and learning, that's just where he's at. Breaking even has always been an elusive goal to go for.
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jimbo-G
164 posts
Apr 05, 2013
10:10 AM
didnt sound too bad too me,a bit sloppy,and i did feel he was steping on the vocals a bit. I have never jammed with a singer so cant really say much.
rogonzab
261 posts
Apr 05, 2013
10:37 AM
harpburn,

I guess that happens in all the towns.

In my city lives this guy, he get good gigs, and long tours over the country.


I am OK whit bad players, because we all learn at diferent speed, but I am looking for a guitar player to play whit me for months and I cant get one, despite that I practise every day, try to play the trough the changes, working on my OB, ultimate, tryng to be a good player and nothing, and this guy play every week.
Kingley
2507 posts
Apr 05, 2013
10:47 AM
Players that aren't proficient on their chosen instruments often get more gigs than more accomplished players. It's usually because they are prepared to do the work, they chase up contacts, will often perform for less money, have good stage patter, play songs crowds know and don't just indulge in massaging their own egos with ridiculously long extended solos and are just generally a lot less flaky than "musicians". The sad reality is that many, many musicians don't, can't or won't "work" to get steady gigs. To get gigs is hard work and takes a lot of leg work, patience and you have to be very determined to succeed. Getting gigs is very similar to selling via cold calling. Most people can't take the constant onslaught of being knocked back and get bored really quickly of that kind of work.

Last Edited by Kingley on Apr 05, 2013 11:16 AM
harmonicanick
1855 posts
Apr 05, 2013
11:44 AM
@Kingley
You hit the nail on the head there
Grey Owl
47 posts
Apr 05, 2013
12:02 PM
Yeah, well said Kingley.

My son is a very decent singer song/writer guitarist and knows his music. I can play him some interesting licks but when I throw in a simple warble his eyes light up as if I've been holding back the good stuff.

I think the general public's perception of what constitutes good harmonica playing is surprisingly low.

I have been listening to Michel Herblins CD's recently and he really is excellent, but it's wall to wall harmonica and if I listen to his stuff with a non harmonica player - it's a case of enough is enough. Shame :(
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Goldbrick
134 posts
Apr 05, 2013
2:03 PM
Me gusta los hombres Zapatilla mejor de el otro grupo en un primero mensaje.
Un grupo Zapatilla tienen un poco chispa y humorismo.
No estan muy profesional pero no malo
nacoran
6655 posts
Apr 05, 2013
2:13 PM
And now the original is gone. Guys, please don't delete your posts like that. It leaves whole threads without context.

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KingoBad
1277 posts
Apr 05, 2013
2:41 PM
Wow, I think I'll start a thread about unbelievably bad posting etiquette...

Jeez...left a whole thread hanging...

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BronzeWailer
933 posts
Apr 05, 2013
4:17 PM
I second Kingley's comments. You gotta put yourself out there by jamming, busking, knocking on doors. Also a good way to meet other musicians. You never know who's listening either. Someone could be thinking, "It would be cool to have these guys play at my 50th/cocktail party/café." These have all happened to me. I'm not the best player but getting better over time. Getting along with others is an important aspect of playing with others too. I have played with some excellent musos who burn their bridges...
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Miles Dewar
1463 posts
Apr 06, 2013
8:33 AM
Who are we talking about?!?!!!!?!!?!?!!!!?!??????????

Did someone delete a link or something?

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nacoran
6658 posts
Apr 06, 2013
10:18 AM
Miles, yeap. The original poster deleted their post. :(

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