Jehosaphat
349 posts
Nov 22, 2012
3:15 PM
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Just finished watching the R J Mischo clip that Adam posted.
He is (within at least the Blues community) a well known player.
the bar seems to have about 20 or so people in it.
Is he a pro player? If so how does he make a living at what he does?
A blues band here in Newzealand will make at most around 400$ for a four set gig in a bar.(and usually they don't want you to play blues all night) Hardly covers the Bar Tab at the end of the night let alone money for equipment maintenance,gear replacement etc.
If you go below say Kim and Charlie to the next tier of players how do they do in the money stakes?
Are we all just treating it like an expensive hobby?
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JBharmonica
104 posts
Nov 22, 2012
3:40 PM
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Good question? What is a professional musician? Someone who gets paid on a regular basis for performing or someone who does gigs and get paid 50 bucks here, 100 dollars there but nothing consistent. I have used my other musical skill sets to parlay them into playing harmonica full time and assure I probable make more a year than the "pros" do. Just the nature of the job....At the end of the day, like me, we all try to keep the Blues alive, and keep the lost art of playing the Harp at the forefront.
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robbert
162 posts
Nov 22, 2012
4:11 PM
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I have been wondering about this myself, recently.
I've come to the conclusion that a professional musician is someone who makes his primary livelihood playing music.
Someone like me who plays consistently two or three times a week and gets paid for it is...what? I don't do it for the money, but being paid is an indication of some level of competency...
I have a skill that contributes to a product(a band performing live music)...that someone is willing to pay something for, on a repeat basis. The money covers music related expenses, and gives me some pocket money. Occasionally, music pay contributes to the household budget, but that's really covered by the day job. So, are people like me semi-professional, or...
Not that it matters. I love making music, I love the process of learning, practicing, playing with like minded folks, and performing for an audience.
Getting paid does feel pretty good though.
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robbert
163 posts
Nov 22, 2012
4:11 PM
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I have been wondering about this myself, recently.
I've come to the conclusion that a professional musician is someone who makes his primary livelihood playing music.
Someone like me who plays consistently two or three times a week and gets paid for it is...what? I don't do it for the money, but being paid is an indication of some level of competency...
I have a skill that contributes to a product(a band performing live music)...that someone is willing to pay something for, on a repeat basis. The money covers music related expenses, and gives me some pocket money. Occasionally, music pay contributes to the household budget, but that's really covered by the day job. So, are people like me semi-professional, or...
Not that it matters. I love making music, I love the process of learning, practicing, playing with like minded folks, and performing for an audience.
Getting paid does feel pretty good though.
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Sarge
273 posts
Nov 22, 2012
5:54 PM
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Last Saturday I got paid $25.00 to do three 15 minute sets of solo harp playing. It was for the big annual outhouse tour. Now that's hitting it big time.
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Hobostubs Ashlock
1947 posts
Nov 22, 2012
6:04 PM
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My last gig paid me 10 bucks,free beer draws and some pizza;-)
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Jehosaphat
352 posts
Nov 22, 2012
7:47 PM
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@hobo Lol
We used to play a regular gig for free beer and food 'til they decided it was cheaper to pay us..;-)
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Joe_L
2164 posts
Nov 22, 2012
8:06 PM
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I was present at the Grand Dell the night that RJ dropped in. The place was packed. That room holds around 75 or 80. I think Aki shot that video. He was about six feet from the stage. That's why it looked sparsely attended. Most of the audience was sitting or standing behind him.
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Rick Davis
911 posts
Nov 22, 2012
8:54 PM
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Gig, teach, and have a supportive wife or girlfriend. I think there are very few pro harp guys who do it without earning a chunk of their money from lessons.
You can make a modest living at it but you have to gig almost every night, and relentlessly prospect for new gigs. Not everybody has the energy for all that.
With my band we make at least $100 per man when we gig, less than that for running the jam at Ziggies. Out of town gigs and festivals are more. There are times when I make most of my money from music but that does not mean I am a pro, it means my regular job is cyclical (politics).
It is a shame. Back when I was first getting serious about music in the 70's a guy with some talent and initiative could make a decent living. Live music has been so devalued that it is hardly possible anymore. And the music business has changed so much -- particularly record companies -- that you have to do it all by yourself, with all your own money.
If you want to be a pro you need to be diversified and innovative. Look at Ronnie Shellist as a good example. He has truly awesome talent on the harp, but it takes a lot more than that to "make it." He has done well by branching out and using new technologies to generate income streams.
Best of luck. It is a hard road.
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Greg Heumann
1851 posts
Nov 22, 2012
11:34 PM
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RJ just released his - I don't know - something like NINTH CD. He came to California as part of its promotion tour. He had gigs every single night out here for over a week. He had a small band to pay. So he made money this week. Yes, he makes money. He works his ass off. Does he make enough to survive? Yes. Is he living in the lap of luxury? No. Would he be able to make it without the fact that his wife has a steady job? Don't know.
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thorvaldsen76
155 posts
Nov 23, 2012
2:49 AM
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I make just about so much money that I don't have to use household-money to pay for gear, gas, food and so on. The way I look at it, my hobby is free.. Pretty much all of my friends hobbies cost them more than they make from it. So even though I can't make a living of it, I get to travel around and play the music I love:)
Oh,and everybody knows, that if we had gotten more money, we would just buy more custom harmonicas, more expensive amps, custompainted mics and so on. I guess we would end up with the same amount in our pockets at the end of the day ;)
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jbone
1115 posts
Nov 23, 2012
4:31 AM
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the reason playing music is worth anything at all is that people want to hear it. club owners want to bring in patrons so they bring live music in.
i 2000, i took every gig i could get. i worked in 2 bands and a jam band as well and also a duo. i also subbed in as front man here and there when another band's harp/vocal guy would miss a gig. i made humble money over all but it was a big part of my survival. in all i made between $3000 and $3500 for that year music-wise. if i had not had day work i would have been much worse off. as it was i was reeling from losing a wife and a career at about the same time. ended off losing the house as well.
in recent years i built a duo with my wife and we did pretty well for a while, but injury has kept her from playing 3-4 hour gigs. we have still gone forward and played where we could and published cd #2 last year, which has made us some $$ back. BUT i have a day job and she has retirement. which gives us what we need. i also gig with another guy and that brings a few bucks as well, for which i am grateful. other than harps and reed plates i rarely spend $$ on harp related stuff, i have a good amp, a few mics, a small p.a., we have all of Jolene's guitar stuff. so we do stand a chance of breaking sort of even at least locally. we're past doing the road thing- until we break all the way loose and hitch a travel trailer up and head for the horizon. even then we will be depending on retirement checks and taking music opportunities where they present themselves.
short answer, a few players are making it.
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waltertore
2658 posts
Nov 23, 2012
5:26 AM
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Making money playing in a blues based band has never been easy but today it is getting near impossible to survive off that alone. I remember when I played in some of the lower tier old blues guys bands. They usually had a day job and paid us next to nothing because they weren't earning hardly anything. When I was starting out I was a teenager. I was on a street corner playing and a woman asked me to come play her bar. She said she would give me $100 and any bottle off the top shelf. I couldn't believe my ears! Thus started a 20 year odessy into trying to make a living playing music.
It wsa the 70's and probably the zenith of opportunity for a blues based player. There were small clubs everywhere that were dedicated to live music. It sounds real good now looking back but to be honest if you didn't play the standards you had a hard time getting gigs. With my approach to music it was like bailing out the titanic with a gallon bucket. I was determined to play, play, play, all the time, and I did.
Most gigs I got paid 1/2 or less than what the standard blues bands got. I had to lie, con, and hound, beyond most peoples wildest dreams to get in the door. There were agents back then that booked clubs and agents that booked bands. I am talking small time bands that drew 100 or less people. None of these people would touch me. I had to do it all on my own. I played all over the world via my own sweat. No cell phones, internet. Overseas calls cost a fortune. The european agents would only book black established players. I had to deal with that as well as the language confusions that seemed to always happen.
Record companies owned the scene. You had to go in a real studio with tape, engineers, record pressing factories, art depts for cover and liner notes, distribution companies that were owned by the record companies, very few radio stations that would air your music or an interview(only college stations played blues at that time).
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waltertore
2659 posts
Nov 23, 2012
5:27 AM
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So you had a vast circuit of clubs. Travel time between gigs east of the Miss river was nothing. Hotels were as cheap as $20/night and $10 could get you through food for the day. Gas was well under a dollar a gallon. Life was cheap on rents too. An example- our 2 bdrm house in austin cost $150/month. All this adds up to a lot of playing opportunities if you fit the box.
I never fit the box yet was able to do 200+ gigs a year for almost 20 years. These were often in off beat clubs, halls, and strange places. I was relentless on finding places to play. Keeping a band (bass/drummmer) was an ongoing problem because I had so many gigs an paid so little.
The main difference I see today is there are hardly any places to play that will pay you anything. People have always played for free and paid to play but those clubs were a minority. Now they are the majority as is evident by the many posts here.
Pop blues has always been the best seller. Original blues has always been a hard sell and my approach is basically off the chart hard because no one else is doing it.
Try imagining doing music in a way that no one else is. Not only is it isolating in the fact that you can't relate to other musicians about it, but the audience is clueless even when you explain what you do. I often had 3 huge signs on the stage that said how I did music and yet I would get people all the time asking if I could do a cover song.
Pioneering a new way to do art has never been easy and I have found this out first hand. Most people will never have a clue as to how isolating, frustrating, and exhausting this is. The good news is I was driven to do this and never felt the overwhelming odds for long. It helped me become who I am today. I don't know the word can't. Today I have no desire to push that hard. If I did I would be playing somewhere in your town. Instead I am now driven to play my music void of all negative influences and thus built my recording studio and will only play live when it is right for me. I have no more stress mentioned above and yet all the great vibes of my live gigs come in everytime I play. I have the ultimate musicians dream- a great sound system, no one presurring me how to play, booked 24/7, great vibes always present, play as long or short as you like, no moving gear, travel, bad beds, bad food, tired all the time, and I say who comes in or not. It took me 40 years to come to this garden of eden. I will wait out things and hopefully the live scene will be re discovered??? If not I am fine. I like the sounds I make :-) So if anyone wonders why I am so happy playing in my studio this is why. Walter
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rbeetsme
927 posts
Nov 23, 2012
5:57 AM
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In Indiana there are somewhere near 500 assisted living facilities. Most bring in musicians about once a week. The standard rate is 80.00 for an hour show. There are a lot of lounge acts, but some surprisingly well known players will hit the senior circuit as well. I know of 3 guys who play or used to play for some well known bands and they'll play solo 5 or 6 times a week. I know a guy in Wisconsin that plays once or twice a day in the midwest. He plays reso, ukulele, banjo, mandolin and harmonica. He told me the practice helps him tone his act for the big stages and he stays and listens to the folks who stick around when he's packing up. The stories he hears occasionally end up in a song. This guy is pretty well known, recorded more than a dozen CD's,a Hohner endorser and writes instruction books for and teaches Mel Bay courses. He's not wealthy, but doing what he loves.
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Joe_L
2167 posts
Nov 23, 2012
11:08 AM
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RJ tours his ass off. Last year, he spent most of the year touring Europe, Scandinavia and Brazil. I have friends that play Blues full time. They seem to make a living.
It's a pretty hard life. It isn't one that I wish to live. I respect those who travel that road. Eddy Clearwater once wrote a tune called, "Its a Hard Way To Make An Easy Living.". It sums it up quite nicely.
Read Mark Hummel's book.
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The Iceman
519 posts
Nov 23, 2012
11:31 AM
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as Waltertore sez, the 70's were a different era for music....not only blues, but the ability for bands to make good $$ playing local clubs.
This was the era of 6 night/week, 2 week gig contracts - from Holiday Inns to big dance clubs. Was in a rock band that made $2200/week playing larger clubs in and around Detroit.
After that, it was Top-40 bands. Same situation - 6 nights/week, a one or two week contract. Haul in equipment, set up, and you were good to go for 1 or 2 weeks. Just show up, pull cover off of your stuff, turn on amps and play.
Some of these Top-40 gigs were out of town, where you would get a single free room and 2 restaurant meals/day along with the $ at the hotels/resorts.
Of course, these were the days when the bars would be packed almost every night and especially on weekends. Remember when they would have to turn the house lights on full bright at 2:15 AM and keep announcing that you had to leave the club?
At the tail end of this era up till the mid 90's, even blues bands would get decent gigs, although, in my experience, they were only Fri/Sat bookings, but you could find your band booked up 6 months in advance on the "local circuit".
So, maybe not just blues, but all live music is dying these days.
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nacoran
6224 posts
Nov 23, 2012
11:37 AM
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How about this for some definitions-
Professional- Makes a living at it.
Part Time- Makes money when they perform.
Semi-Pro- Makes money at it sometimes.
Amateur- Aspires to make money at it.
Hobbyist- Doesn't expect to ever make money at it.
Of course, within each category there could be different fields- Teacher, performer, promoter, customizer.
I'd consider myself an amateur performer and a hobbyist in any other fields.
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HawkeyeKane
1272 posts
Nov 23, 2012
11:45 AM
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Nate, I like your view on it. I guess in the broad sense, I'd call myself a part-time professional since I only make money when I perform, but I utilize that dough as a second source of bacon brought home to the missus. ;-) I loosely refer to myself as a professional, but I kinda insert my tongue in my cheek when I do.
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electricwitness
69 posts
Nov 23, 2012
4:19 PM
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I read an article recently that said one of the secret's to a musician's success is his day job.
I am a "full time" musician, teaching is my main source of income right now even though I gig regularly. I have a supportive wife with a good job or we would not be able to support the family. I have started to travel, which has become necessary due the lack of gigs available in my local area, and I want to grow my "brand", and increase opportunities.
I have a van to haul equipment and myself and band members if necessary. I usually play and travel as a one man band, and my van doubles as a green room and bedroom when I don't have a place to stay for free. I usually have a cooler with some food in it so I don't have to eat out, and one for water. Just doing whatever I can to maximize income potential.
I know there are many formulas for success, even in this market, I am trying to find the formula that will work best for me. Discussion like this are enlightening and it is cool to see what others are doing as well.
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The Iceman
522 posts
Nov 23, 2012
4:26 PM
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Here's another changing aspect I've noticed from a lot of comments:
The rise of the "one man band".....in order to make it as a musician these days..
(curses to the guy that invented the backing tracks)
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RyanMortos
1356 posts
Nov 23, 2012
4:30 PM
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Sad, I want to move to the 70s, haha. What's with people's disinterest in getting off the couch these days... Or the people who are going out just want to get drunk and "listen" to a dj spin dance music just long enough to woo someone.
I know a good many professional musicians that don't earn their living from gigging. I'd say your a professional musician once you are taking gigs and performing for money at all. I mean, if you don't act like a professional you won't be getting repeat gigs so you need to be one. A lot of musicians I'm on a first name basis with teach lessons for additional funds & probably have a spouse to share in their expenses or they just plain ol' have a day job and use gigging just for extra cash but are really just in it for the music like Hawkeye suggests.
There weren't too many bands at the AMA's this year. It was mostly teenager focused pop music. And even then the viewing audience was nil. Lady Gaga is said to be classically trained pianist but went to "watered down pop" for fame & fortune.
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electricwitness
70 posts
Nov 23, 2012
4:34 PM
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I do live looping only, no backing tracks, but to each his own! :)
What I have found though is that a lot of club owners want to cut what they pay because there is only 1 of me. So even cutting "overhead" by reducing personnel doesn't always work... frustrating. It also seems that venues are shy of "one man bands" as well, I have been turned down solely on the fact that there is only one of me... also frustrating.
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Shredder
367 posts
Nov 23, 2012
5:05 PM
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I'm not getting rich but I have made $1500 to $2000 a year for the past 2 years. I have a full time day job and gig at night between 3 diffrent acts on the weekends.
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waltertore
2663 posts
Nov 23, 2012
5:27 PM
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iceman: I went back to being a 1 man band after leaving music full time. Trying to find the level musician I use to have as my bandmates in the non pro situation I am now in, is near impossible. There are tons of great amatuer players out there but they lack that final touch that only comes from play for decades night after night onstage. I started as a 1 man band over 35 years ago playing with wilbert harrison. I went on to wanting a real band and did that for 25 years. Now I find the 1 man band to be the greatest place to be for unobstructed creativety/freedom. I will never use a backing track or loops for a gig. I have tried a few backing tracks and overdubbing on my own stuff, but like amplyfying my harp, it doesn't hold my interest. You are stuck on railroad tracks with that stuff.
I have shared this story before- When I was a few years in the pro scene I met Roy Smeck. I told him about these disco djs starting to pop up and how they were putting regular bands out of business. He laughed and said you should have seen what happened when the radio and record came to be. He said 90% of pro musicians were wacked. I guess man has been trying to put live music out of business since day one and as technology increases the faster it will become a reality......... Walter
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walterharp
985 posts
Nov 23, 2012
6:12 PM
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well lets see, some of the top harmonica players in the world
Howard Levy, needs to supplement income with lessons.
Ricci, offering skype lessons to make ends meet
Gussow, has professor day job
being mainly known as a harmonica player and making a decent living (e.g. working at least as hard a medical doctor to make it and making that kind of salary regularly over the years) probably John Popper is the only one
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rbeetsme
931 posts
Nov 23, 2012
6:34 PM
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You make it sound like no one makes a living playing harp, but that's not true. How about Rod Piazza, Lee Oskar, Mickey Rafael, Buddy Greene, Charlie McCoy, Tommy Morgan, Toots Thielman, Brenden Power, Charlie Musselwhite, John Popper, Jimmi Lee, and many more. Don't forget the guys who play harp but are better known for singing, songwriting or playing other instruments: Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Bruce Springsteen, John Sebastian, Jeff Hanna, Taj Mahal and others.
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SuperBee
673 posts
Nov 23, 2012
11:16 PM
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Last 24 hours I spent 10 driving to and from a gig that paid $300 for a 5 piece band. Geez they lapped it up though! Finished playing around 2am, to bed around 3...if you can call the back I'm my wagon a bed...at 48 I'm feeling a little over this, but the youngsters seem to think its funn! Just wish they'd get some suitable Sheila's along to these shindigs.
I did enjoy the countryside though, nice to get out in the back country for a look.
That's an extreme case for us, was supposed to be 2 gigs and that would have been starting to get to almost worthwhile. All our earnings goes into a fund to pay our costs and allow us to tour a little and make some recordings.
I'm not about to give up my day job...
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rbeetsme
932 posts
Nov 24, 2012
5:44 AM
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In Oz everything is 5 hours away, or so I've heard. BTW: Ever heard the Blue Mugs Ukulele band?
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waltertore
2666 posts
Nov 24, 2012
6:08 AM
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Most all the old blues guys I played with died in poverty. The ones I know that are still alive are not living very good. No health care, retirement, savings account, is the norm. Many of the guys my age that are still playing are in worse shape than this and many are waiting on liver transplants, and other such major medical needs. People typing here will really never understand the struggle because most have another source of income. Knowing you survive on music pay alone is something you can only understand if you live it. Most of the guys you worship live hand to mouth. The unpredictablity of the whole thing is enough to make for an early grave. I can't tell you how many times my calendar was full only to see it all fall apart when it came time to play those dates. Heck, I went over to Norway to do a tour, my first overseas one, only to find out upon arrival that it was canceled. We spent every penny we had to get there. We ended up penniless in Brussels, thrown off the train. That began our 2 year european residency. If you read my bio it says I lived overseas for 2.5 years. What I ommitted was it was a stressfull big time experience in poverty, language, and being an illegal alien. Most blues players bios are seeped with such stuff if you knew what lay behind what you read on their bio page. The ones I know/knew that lived a good life financially had a wife with a good job and or they had one too. I am thankful I found another passion that moves me as much as music does. Getting old as a pro musician stinks. I was talking to a friend yesterday who is off to Ca and then Hawaii. It sounds so fun until you hear the details. Heck I lived in Europe for 2.5 years with my band and never did anything touristy because we were hand to mouth the whole time. Having lived the full time music life and now the full time day job life I can tell you there is such a world of difference between the 2 that I almost can't put it into words. Simply stated, I now have an unspoken support with sick days, retirement, vacation pay, personal days, guaranteed salary every year, home ownership (paid off mortgage), cars that run good and paid off, gear that works, live in a safe neighborhood, fridge full of food, money to do lesiure things, and basically can relax. None of this was there when I was playing full time. Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year in the Tunnel of Dreams Studio.
" life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller
4,500+ of my songs in a streaming format
my videos
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Aussiesucker
1214 posts
Nov 24, 2012
2:46 PM
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I have to agree with rbeetsme in so far as there are some who do make a good living being musicians. Being technically the greatest of players will largely go unnoticed by consumers if you lack all the other necessary skills to succeed.
Unlike other professions there is no real starting salary for a musician. But a successful musician who can bring other skills to the table will be more in demand.
Other skills I would refer to might be:-
Singing
Playing other instruments
Writing/composing
As well as:-
Being businesslike
Planning
Being a good sales person
Being able to market oneself.
These latter attributes could be supplied by 3rd parties & often is as artists become successful.
That said I think today with all the free stuff out there it is difficult for even the best artists to sell CDs? Once being an artist with a bundle of CD's out in the stores meant a good cash flow. No longer.
I am long retired and playing harp is all a hobby for me.
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rbeetsme
933 posts
Nov 24, 2012
3:24 PM
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Of course, very few blues/bluegrass/alternative musicians will bring in the money that pop and country stars enjoy. But widespread appeal has never been the test of a great player.
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Tuckster
1188 posts
Nov 24, 2012
4:07 PM
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The History channel shows have lots of harp in their background music. Lots of commercials have harp in the music. Somebody must be making a decent stable living. Session work,too,but I've heard it's hard to get your foot in the door
I remember talking to Andy Just at 2010 SPAH and I'm pretty sure he said he had a day job.
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Greg Heumann
1854 posts
Nov 24, 2012
8:36 PM
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I want to amplify what Joe said earlier in case you missed it. READ MARK HUMMEL'S BOOK. Stories from 30 years of touring with a band.
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Frank
1479 posts
Nov 25, 2012
8:51 AM
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I read Marks book - and "ouch" kinda sums up the moral to the story of the book…No path is easy mind you, and we all encounter many difficulties throughout are illustrious careers regardless of what they are… That said – the only person who would ever choose the career of a being a touring blues harmonica player to make their living after reading Marks stories is a musician who is yet still to young and naive to realize the insanity of that decision! He is truly a Blues SURVIVOR!!! God Bless Mark Hummel, the dude has got HEART and a big set a nads!
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HarpNinja
2925 posts
Nov 25, 2012
8:57 AM
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@rbeetsme
Note none of those careers started after the 80's.
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BronzeWailer
812 posts
Nov 25, 2012
2:53 PM
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I think there is almost an inverse relationship between fun and money. I need a day job to support my music addiction. That said, private partes may be the go. Our trio has done a few corporate parties and 50th parties at people's homes. We get open slather on the food and drink too. We did one Saturday night where a very good looking recently divorced blonde French lady was dirty dancing in front of the guitarist. Money isn't everything...
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