Oisin
977 posts
Sep 03, 2012
5:06 PM
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Read this story with alarm. Apple says if you download a tune from them, you don't actually own it. WTF are we buying tunes from them for? If I buy a CD then it belongs to me...I don't give it back to the record shop where I bought it if I die.
I always thought Apple were a good ethical company but recent events and this story really have alarmed me. I also don't know how they intend to enforce this rule when old Bruce dies.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/sep/03/bruce-willis-apple-itunes-library
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Oisin
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laurent2015
405 posts
Sep 03, 2012
5:53 PM
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I think they mean you own the medium, but not the tunes except for listening to them in private.
Don't try to sell them on the internet or play them in a public area!
I think YT wouldn't either tolerate you put them down on their server.
@Verylong: sorry, you were faster than me.
Last Edited by on Sep 03, 2012 5:56 PM
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garry
256 posts
Sep 03, 2012
7:07 PM
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i bought exactly one song from itunes, years ago (Work Song). upon realizing the implications of their appalling business model, i've never bought another. amazon gets my business ever since. not only are their downloads DRM-free, but their downloaders work on linux, a delightful surprise.
i'm continually amazed at the crap that apple gets away with.
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nacoran
6053 posts
Sep 03, 2012
9:25 PM
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Not to jump on that grenade, but I've never thought of Apple as a particularly ethical company. Sure, all the companies run sweat shops in Asia, and it took a lot of the tech companies a long time to get the heavy metals out of their products, but Steve Jobs, before he died left a home on the historical register wide open to the elements just to get it condemned so he could demolish it for his mansion. He regularly parked in the handicapped spaces (not making that up) and his censorship of apps continues to this day. Apple has always been about limiting where you can get product once you are locked into their ecosystem. Their perfectionism makes nice products, but ethical rarely enters into the equation. (Of course Microsoft had monopolistic practices too, and Google has had some epic fails too, but I always put Apple at the bottom of my list of ethical companies.
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MrVerylongusername
2419 posts
Sep 04, 2012
12:37 AM
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@joypog
True, but there's a world of difference between transient but valued and transient and disposable. All the evidence points to a new generation of consumers who no longer value music as anything other than a throwaway item. Books will be next and film and photography are heading that way. I'm no Luddite, but it bothers me that once the product is devalued then the creative process and the artist is too.
@Nate. Steve jobs was dying of cancer - that's a pretty disabling condition and in my book gives him the right to park in the disabled spaces. Other criticisms are fine, but don't attack him for having a hidden disability.
Last Edited by on Sep 04, 2012 3:14 AM
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nacoran
6057 posts
Sep 04, 2012
5:12 PM
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MVLUN, my understanding is that he did it for years, long before the cancer.
http://www.edibleapple.com/2011/10/27/the-story-behind-steve-jobs-mercedez-benz-and-its-missing-license-plate/
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