logansays
80 posts
Apr 13, 2012
4:50 AM
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hi,
is this a low C harp? what is the tuning on these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-HOHNER-MARINE-BAND-HARMONICA-C-MINT-never-take-out-of-original-wrappings-/380429788198?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589361e426#ht_2664wt_1555
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SuperBee
217 posts
Apr 13, 2012
6:52 AM
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i dont know enough to say it isnt, but i wonder why you think it might be.
interesting that they used to make them in different flavours, but why would they put a mint one in a red box? these days we would use green i think.
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Andrew
1583 posts
Apr 13, 2012
7:03 AM
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Ever since they put salt and vinegar crisps in green packets, I haven't trusted anyone!
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arzajac
775 posts
Apr 13, 2012
7:24 AM
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I would assume it's a low-C Richter-tuned 12 or 14 hole harp.
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Oisin
932 posts
Apr 13, 2012
12:47 PM
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That's a 364 12 hole low C marine band. You can still buy these new today.
You will find you need a lot more breath force to play it but it sounds great, especially for chord tongue slapping.
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Oisin
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logansays
82 posts
Apr 13, 2012
1:36 PM
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@thnx Oisin! could that be a pre-war , judging by the inside cover..
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SuperBee
218 posts
Apr 13, 2012
2:20 PM
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Of course! The colour of danger.
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Oisin
933 posts
Apr 13, 2012
2:36 PM
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I don't think so Logan. If I remember correctly, the 364 and 365 (14 hole) were introduced after the war in the USA. In Europe you could buy the Echo Vamper which was exactly the same harp but made with "Bell metal reeds" and I know some of these have the star of David on them but I'm nearly sure that the 364 and 365 were introduced into the USA and Europe after the war. I'm sure BBQ can confirm this if he reads the thread.
Here's something from Pat Missin's site about them.
http://patmissin.com/ffaq/q11.html
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Oisin
Last Edited by on Apr 13, 2012 2:38 PM
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ElkRiverHarmonicas
851 posts
Apr 13, 2012
3:38 PM
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Oisin, it's prewar. No doubt about it. History is always in the process of being rewritten. Besides there's a big difference in prewar and postwar sales, because there was an 11 or 12 year period when Hohner wasn't selling in the US at all. They had to restart everything from scratch after the creation of West Germany. First they had to loosen Kostler's hold on the U.S. market and establish themselves. That took a while. The full line of their basic stuff would have been available before the war. After, not necessarily.
BTW, it doesn't have to have a star to be prewar, although I suspect this one will have a six-point star.
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Last Edited by on Apr 13, 2012 3:40 PM
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Oisin
934 posts
Apr 13, 2012
4:02 PM
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No worries Dave. You guys know more about this stuff than I do.
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Oisin
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Oisin
936 posts
Apr 13, 2012
7:56 PM
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You were right Dave. I knew I'd read something about the 364 coming out in the 1970s but as usual BBQ Bob had the answer. The 364 has been around a long time.
http://www.modernbluesharmonica.com/board/board_topic/5560960/570504.htm
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Oisin
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ElkRiverHarmonicas
852 posts
Apr 14, 2012
6:27 AM
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I used to get prewars, restore them and sell them on the Web site. There were quite a few prewar 364s and 365s that came through here. One of the coolest was a 12-hole harp that was the same size as a 10 hole. It was called the "School Band" it was solo note placement.
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Oisin
940 posts
Apr 14, 2012
9:32 AM
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Yeah I have quite a few of the 12 hole echo vampers which I love to play especially the low C. The tone from those old harps is beautiful, especially low chords. But they do take a lot of breath to get them going.
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Oisin
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MP
2163 posts
Apr 14, 2012
12:02 PM
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"Yeah I have quite a few of the 12 hole echo vampers which I love to play especially the low C. The tone from those old harps is beautiful, especially low chords. But they do take a lot of breath to get them going."
a friend in Ireland sent me an Echo Vamper.
it says Bell Metal Reeds on the top cover. i missed my
364 i'd given to a friend so i restored the EV.
it has a gorgeous sound. bell metal reeds are very warm and smooth sounding. the Echo Vamper covers are deeper and sort of squared compared to the 364/365s so some might find them awkward to play. i play a lot of chromatic lately so it doesn't bother me.
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