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roadharp
84 posts
Mar 20, 2012
6:45 PM
What do guys think of the low f harp.I think it would be cool for key of c blues but would you still play the blues scale. Or just hang on the 1 vi v root notes?
nacoran
5416 posts
Mar 20, 2012
6:55 PM
It's definitely less squeal-y than the regular F, but I definitely have a bias towards lower harps.

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Kyzer Sosa
1052 posts
Mar 20, 2012
7:00 PM
daddy likey low effey
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billy_shines
277 posts
Mar 20, 2012
7:35 PM
sonny boy played either an echo vamper or an old marine band 364 in F on "i cant be alone" good luck finding one.
Steamrollin Stan
319 posts
Mar 21, 2012
3:36 AM
I have a Suzuki low F harp, not used much but its nice when i get the odd moment.
arzajac
757 posts
Mar 21, 2012
4:22 AM
What reason would there be to only play root notes?

A low F is not *that* low. Still, in a amplified jam it may not get heard. Is that what you mean? Because as I see it, it's a matter of context; it can be used very effectively as a bassline instrument but it is also very capable of a solo. It depends on the song.

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Frank
447 posts
Mar 21, 2012
4:23 AM
A "low F" will eventually seem like your playing a regular "C harp" as you continue to progress throughout the years...
SuperBee
148 posts
Mar 21, 2012
4:30 AM
I struggle with the 1 draw bend, and the 2 draw whole step. Apart from thAt it's cool. Got one a them fandangled thunderbird harps. That's kinda weird to fit in the face at first
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tmf714
1048 posts
Mar 21, 2012
5:18 AM
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peduarte
44 posts
Mar 21, 2012
5:23 AM
I have a Marine Band Deluxe in Low F, on the video below, I use the Low F for chords and the F for the solo:



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tmf714
1049 posts
Mar 21, 2012
5:23 AM
Ronnie playing a Low F-



walterharp
843 posts
Mar 21, 2012
7:48 AM
if you play with a loud band, it is tough to cut through with this harp
MJ
395 posts
Mar 21, 2012
8:21 AM
I'm with you walterharp. It is a nice bass harp for low acoustic or solo stuff, but with a band it gets lost.
groyster1
1813 posts
Mar 21, 2012
8:25 AM
I own 1 and only play it in Gminor,third position prefer regular F
Greyowlphotoart
981 posts
Mar 21, 2012
8:24 AM
Do not delay roadharp they are fantastic and addictive.
They are great for playing deep rumbling chords and chugging.

They will bend nicely but take a bit more effort because they can feel 'airy' and you will need to make a deeper oral chamber on the low bends and this feels strange at first. However this is good for developing stronger tone anyway, so it's a win/win situation.

Here I am playing a real nice bluesey melody in Low F.


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tmf714
1050 posts
Mar 21, 2012
10:34 AM
"I'm with you walterharp. It is a nice bass harp for low acoustic or solo stuff, but with a band it gets lost. "
Not when I break out the HarpKing-
opendoor_harps
4 posts
Mar 21, 2012
12:02 PM
I like the Low F and use it racked a lot when I sing in either F or C. Great for C blues. Definitely amped for a band setting. I've also been having a renewed interest in my low C MB 365 . Quite a nice vintage sounding growl. I've been working on it some to tighten up the sound.

I used a High F at gig the other night, as it was full drums' electric fiddle, and bass.
Pistolcat
174 posts
Mar 21, 2012
12:09 PM
Just got a Lee Oskar LF and been tongueblock noodeling in third with that nice "All blues" vamp. Really nice for some mellow, acoustic stuff but I haven't started playing amped as yet and not with a band either so...
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MP
2107 posts
Mar 21, 2012
12:26 PM
i have a low F i use sometimes but rarely in 2nd position. it does a nice 3rd position G. i prefer my normal F for 2nd. if i want a deeper fuller key of C a Bb in 3rd is good choice.

OT. i have an Echo Vamper low C with bell metal reeds.
it is smooth and funky but very mellow w/ serious low end.
in my opinion the newer 364/365s have more cut. so do other smaller newer diatonics of the 10 hole variety.
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Ant138
1164 posts
Mar 21, 2012
12:27 PM
Low F rules!!
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rbeetsme
696 posts
Mar 21, 2012
12:31 PM
I've never read the low F rules, but a useful harp. I have the 364 and a custom MB, fun to play. The jams I go to play in C often so it's nice not to play the reg F so often.
Leatherlips
47 posts
Mar 21, 2012
3:35 PM
Yep, as has been stated, great for rhythm in 2nd and 3rd position, but don't try doing a fat solo in 2nd as the reeds won't respond quick enough.
High end third position is great on this harp though and really gutsy on the low end in 5th.
Adam Hamil
31 posts
Mar 21, 2012
4:36 PM
I love the low F!!!! It's only a whole step lower than G. My current Low F is a Thunderbird. C low end licks really growl and thump. Am and Dm sound nice and mellow. F highend licks sound really loud and powerful. I play the low F alot more than the standard F. The only time I play the standard F is if I'm covering a high vocal line. Like Clo Green's "F*ck you" Great on the F, muddy on the low F. I've never really had trouble being heard on a low F. Now I have a low low F (LLF) that my crysal mic barely even picks up. That thing is alot of fun to play. I'm still trying to figure out what exactly to do with it though. Haha
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Adam Hamil
32 posts
Mar 21, 2012
4:52 PM
Ohh yeah, And Low F IMO is the absolute best key harp for playing train imitations.
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Todd Parrott
886 posts
Mar 21, 2012
6:19 PM
"Ohh yeah, And Low F IMO is the absolute best key harp for playing train imitations."

A low E is even better!!! :)

I use a low F for slower songs where I'm playing backup. Sometimes I'll use both the regular F and the low F on the same song. I'm using a low F in the studio currently to double the same licks I recorded on my regular F in certain places of the song. The octaves sound really cool.
mandowhacker
110 posts
Mar 21, 2012
8:25 PM
I have one built by HarpNinja.

It's super. Just a bit lower than a G and quite usable for noodling solo like I do.

I'd recommend the low F in general and Mike's work in particular to anyone.
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billy_shines
283 posts
Mar 21, 2012
10:04 PM
man i gotta get me one of these, everyone hates them. F harps are kinda shrill and get on my nerves and everyone elses. this has to be the way to go munchin a low F into a shure unidyne straight to the pa.
Gnarly
170 posts
Mar 21, 2012
11:24 PM
Yeah, I don't carry a regular F anymore--at one point (I am a guitar player) it was the only key I carried with me, since it is so easy to do the draw bends. Currently I bring a case with dozens of keys and tunings, and a chromatic. I play, admittedly, mostly solo, if I played with a loud band, I might want to have a regular F--and a high G!

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Ant138
1165 posts
Mar 22, 2012
12:02 AM
I'm sure i remember Buddha saying(a long time ago) that he learnt everything on a low F as a young boy, i'm sure he said he learnt how to control bends on a low F, That's all he used to practice on for a long time.

He defiantly recommended the low F as the first low key to go for when i asked which i should buy first. Its here on some thread somewhere:o)

Personally i'm not keen on regular F, its just to shrill for my taste.
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