nacoran
5149 posts
Jan 31, 2012
9:58 PM
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It's not bringing the site down, but it seems we are still having some lingering problems with Captchas not working the first time you type them in (about 2/3's of the time or more for me). The support tech has asked me to set up another page with a Captcha, so:
http://www.modernbluesharmonica.macwebsitebuilder.com/captchatester.html
(It's also on the bottom left of the menu for now.)
See if the Captcha works for you. If it doesn't, let me know in this thread. Give a couple details, like if it worked on the second try. One possible theory is that the Captchas are renewing too quickly... Hopefully this will help track the problem down.
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Jan 31, 2012
9:59 PM
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(Just testing... it might be what is happening. If I don't waste time typing a message it works.)
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LSC
156 posts
Jan 31, 2012
10:05 PM
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Tasting Tasting 1-2 Tasting
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LSC
157 posts
Jan 31, 2012
10:07 PM
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Let it sit for five minutes and it worked 1st time on that last post. And presumably this one.
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shadoe42
119 posts
Jan 31, 2012
10:46 PM
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Well since the first law of tech support is..when the tech is watching everything works.... it worked for me first time out.. that is the first time in probably two weeks that the first one has taken. i will try again from work tomorrow.
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KeithE
200 posts
Jan 31, 2012
11:05 PM
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Given that you need to register and then sign-in to post, why are the Captchas necessary? I guess that too many spammers are getting through the registration process? But these spammers aren't sophisticated enough to answer the Captchas before posting spam? Or it just slows them down so their account can be deleted before they do too much damage? Could things be changed to require a Captchas be answered during login? Is that not enough? Or could a poster's posts/sec be limited? I guess that you guys only have a limited set of features available to work with? (I am a fan of this board's format, so wouldn't suggest radical changes.)
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didjcripey
185 posts
Feb 01, 2012
12:58 AM
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I almost never have trouble with captcha.
If I do; no biggie, just try again.
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MrVerylongusername
2173 posts
Feb 01, 2012
5:25 AM
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Worked fine forme, but I've consistently had the captcha problem recently posting to the forum.
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Jim Rumbaugh
663 posts
Feb 01, 2012
5:37 AM
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I juat logged in to say I second the Captcha at login only idea.
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Jim Rumbaugh
664 posts
Feb 01, 2012
5:37 AM
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Also captcha worked on the first try.
maybe we just have a lot of users with bad eyes???
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timeistight
307 posts
Feb 01, 2012
6:38 AM
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It's working for me.
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Greg Heumann
1451 posts
Feb 01, 2012
9:07 AM
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tested, comment left there
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nacoran
5155 posts
Feb 01, 2012
9:36 AM
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It seems to come in spurts... some Captchas are tougher than others- R's and A's can look sort of alike, and 8's and B's... but it's not just tough ones that are failing. I could look into other Captchas. I know briefly there were other ones, some server side change. They seemed to actually be tougher to solve, at least for me.
As for why we need them... we've gotten better at spotting spammers, but they still get through sometimes. The forum software has gotten better for deleting it. We used to have to delete it one message at a time. Now we can delete all the spam on one thread page at a time, but spammers usually only post one per thread anyway. Before the Captchas it wasn't uncommon to have a spammer get 200+ posts before someone caught it. Now, since they post slower, they usually get caught well before 20. That means instead of taking a couple hours to delete them all it only takes fifteen minutes. It also seems to deter them from trying.
What would really be nice is if we could turn the Captchas off for anyone who has 'X' number of posts (maybe 100), but I don't think our software supports it.
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Diggsblues
1161 posts
Feb 01, 2012
10:17 AM
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worked fine for me.
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lumpy wafflesquirt
519 posts
Feb 01, 2012
1:54 PM
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tried 2, both worked first time.
but I don't have too many failures anyway, but then I am not a prolific poster.
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edit to say that this also went through at first attempt
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jimbo-G
94 posts
Feb 01, 2012
1:56 PM
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First try
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nacoran
5158 posts
Feb 01, 2012
2:13 PM
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Okay, people who are having problems (myself included) do we have any similarities. I'm using Chrome in New York.
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gene
1010 posts
Feb 01, 2012
2:27 PM
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Internet Explorer, Fort Worth
There might be easier captchas to read, I guess, but the captchas on this forum aren't hard to read.
First try failed. I'm certain I entered it correctly.
Last Edited by on Feb 01, 2012 2:27 PM
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gene
1011 posts
Feb 01, 2012
2:29 PM
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test
(Worked on first try)
Last Edited by on Feb 01, 2012 2:31 PM
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Aussiesucker
1001 posts
Feb 01, 2012
2:38 PM
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test
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tookatooka
2682 posts
Feb 01, 2012
2:57 PM
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About 75% errors for me. IE9.
Last Edited by on Feb 01, 2012 2:57 PM
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JInx
168 posts
Feb 01, 2012
3:21 PM
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I get lazy and mess up my captcha every now and then. But, this site's captcha is much better than some of the other's I've seen out there.
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bonedog569
455 posts
Feb 01, 2012
4:42 PM
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test - I have to do the captcha at least two times every time I post recently. - lets see how it goes this time
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bonedog569
456 posts
Feb 01, 2012
4:47 PM
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Son of a gun - the previous 'test' post captcha I just posted worked the first time.
What about the double word Captcha "reCAptch" a lot of sites use? - It acutally serves a productive purpose at the same time - helping to digitize books.
http://www.epagini.com/2010/05/recaptcha-a-smart-captcha-application/
Here's one of the inventors of Captcha and the double Captcha lecturing about it. - worth checking out
http://www.ted.com/talks/luis_von_ahn_massive_scale_online_collaboration.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2011-12-07&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email
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garry
166 posts
Feb 01, 2012
6:12 PM
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mine seems to reliably work the second time.
yep. failed first time...failed second time...
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nacoran
5164 posts
Feb 01, 2012
10:57 PM
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Bonedog... I think the site actually had those for a couple days, then they switched back. Of course, I'm a big supporter of digitization of knowledge, but there are some who might complain Google is running afoul of some copyright issues. They've got good lawyers though. :)
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Honkin On Bobo
906 posts
Feb 03, 2012
7:32 AM
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Captcha still messing up for me.
Same thing, first solution rejected second effort accepted.
I am 100% sure it's not due to my typing in an incorrect code.
I guess it's not really a big deal...10-15 seconds extra at most, but still, it is really annoying.
Using Internet Explorer (that's a whole 'nother story)
time to get rejected on my first captcha, so i can post this
EDIT: captcha got tired of the one rejection game, rejected twice that time.....fun
Last Edited by on Feb 03, 2012 7:34 AM
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MrVerylongusername
2177 posts
Feb 03, 2012
1:23 PM
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I've had the rejected first attempt a lot recently, but last few days it's been fine again. I'm using Mac Safari from the UK (also had the problem at work where I use win IE9 and on my windows phone - I don't think it's the browser)
I have noticed slow page loads and that the harmonica logo at the top of the page didn't load properly on my broswer (looked like the file was corrupt). This has happened intermittently (infrequently) for quite a while now and I wondered (guessed!) if it to do with a backup server being used while the main MWB server was undergoing maintenance.
edit
*Arrggghhh*
rejected!
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timeistight
323 posts
Feb 09, 2012
11:03 AM
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I just had this one fail:
I entered "x22kqh".
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Honkin On Bobo
921 posts
Feb 09, 2012
11:09 AM
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Geezus timeistight, everybody can see the proper response was LMK89SDS6..!!!!! Get your reading glasses out!!!
edit: took me four captchas to get through.....new league record.
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bluzmn
59 posts
Feb 09, 2012
11:11 AM
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I just posted a message at 10:29am PST, 2-9-12; same old thing, the 1st Captcha failed and the 2nd went through.
This one went through the 1st time!
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timeistight
326 posts
Feb 09, 2012
12:24 PM
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Another failure:
Does this not read "yWNFfG"?
Last Edited by on Feb 09, 2012 12:25 PM
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nacoran
5213 posts
Feb 09, 2012
12:30 PM
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That's what it looks like to me.
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hvyj
2105 posts
Feb 09, 2012
12:50 PM
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My experience is that I'm being required to log in TWO correct CAPTCHA codes in sequence before being allowed to post. A major PITA.
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jim
1191 posts
Feb 09, 2012
2:13 PM
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nope, not working
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Lmbrjak
85 posts
Feb 09, 2012
2:24 PM
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2 correct captchas in sequence required every time since this thread started.
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Lmbrjak
86 posts
Feb 09, 2012
2:27 PM
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it worked first shot that time.
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Lmbrjak
88 posts
Feb 09, 2012
2:32 PM
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back to twice
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shanester
484 posts
Feb 09, 2012
5:24 PM
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Someone else mentioned this but I almost always fail first time when I enter case sensitive and almost never fail when I enter all lower case.
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Andrew
1557 posts
Feb 10, 2012
8:42 AM
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It worked first time for me, and I wan't even logged into the forum yet either! (but normally captcha fails first time every time, which it didn't now. Does that mean it's fixed?)
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bluemoose
677 posts
Feb 10, 2012
10:47 AM
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Still get the first one failing. (Edit: except this one worked)
When do we get to switch this to "help me shoot the captchas"?
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timeistight
331 posts
Feb 12, 2012
9:41 PM
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This failed:
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7LimitJI
603 posts
Feb 13, 2012
2:52 AM
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1st attempt. Usually takes 2
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SuperBee
68 posts
Feb 13, 2012
3:32 AM
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Worked 1st time. But that is the first time in the last couple weeks it has. I don't post too much, but sometimes I quit when the captcha plays up, bit like a chance to think again whether what I have to say was really worth saying
Edit: and this came up 1st try too! Wonder if the edit will? If it does, I won't remark.
Last Edited by on Feb 13, 2012 3:34 AM
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tookatooka
2712 posts
Feb 13, 2012
4:03 AM
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Just spent half hour responding to a post and got thrown off. I ain't gonna re-type that lot. P*ssed!
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hvyj
2130 posts
Feb 13, 2012
4:19 AM
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Been doing a lot of posting in that Filisko/Networking thread. Had to enter CORRECT CAPTCHA codes at least twice for every post except one. PITA.
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boris_plotnikov
698 posts
Feb 14, 2012
1:38 AM
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Typing captchas without capital letters work much better and usally I type correct from the first time, while earlier I typed them with capital letters and there was bunch of mistakes.
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MrVerylongusername
2209 posts
Feb 14, 2012
2:01 AM
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Boris,
It's good to know that the captcha isnt case sensitive, but this issue has nothing to do with uppercase/lowercase or mistyping.
There is a bug in the captcha system which seems to reject EVERY first attempt for some people - even though they are certain they have typed it correctly.
However, the problem does not seem to be affecting everyone all the time.
I never use uppercase letters in the captcha, my browser even autofills many of them now, but I still have my attempts rejected.
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