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SonnyD4885
56 posts
Aug 15, 2011
8:33 AM
what do you think of this i think there insulting the craft it self and skill but don't get me wrong to each there own
Miles Dewar
1060 posts
Aug 15, 2011
8:45 AM
Check out the beatbox jam with LD miller, Christelle berthon, Jay gaunt.


It's called super jam or something. It looked like it was at a SPAH.

That WAS killer.
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Beatboxing is Very useful nowadays. Rap and hip hop. I have had Tons of rappers ask me to make samples. It's too bad I don't hone those skills. I would have had coverage in many different projects.

Last Edited by on Aug 15, 2011 8:45 AM
HarpNinja
1585 posts
Aug 15, 2011
8:56 AM
Insulting which craft? If you really believe to each their own, then why start a possibly controversial post?

I'd appreciate more description, evidence, and background from where opinion is coming from.





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SonnyD4885
57 posts
Aug 15, 2011
10:01 AM
yes these are very cool and origanal but it dosnt pull at my soul the way slow blues from james cotton dose.

nacoran
4446 posts
Aug 15, 2011
10:06 AM
Harpboxing. I love the sound. It requires whole new skill sets. Apparently it's not your thing, but your post makes you come off as close minded and spoiling for a fight.

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SonnyD4885
58 posts
Aug 15, 2011
10:50 AM
no i very openminded i just like music with soul i get turned off of music if i can feel what there saying or doing its just not my thing and if its a fight well a harp battle dosn't sound bad to me!
SonnyD4885
60 posts
Aug 15, 2011
10:58 AM
and this is harmonica with rap beat

KingoBad
824 posts
Aug 15, 2011
11:45 AM
I think we have a harmonica for beef jerky trade coming on...

May I introduce the "forum search" button to your left...

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Danny
HarpNinja
1586 posts
Aug 15, 2011
11:52 AM
@Kingobad...you read my mind, lol.
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harpdude61
961 posts
Aug 15, 2011
11:56 AM
Insulting the craft? No, they really insulted the craft when they started playing cross harp instead of 1st position chordal rhythm type stuff....like the harmonica was intended for. Years later they added insult to injury when they started overblowing and coming out with alternate tuned harmonicas.....and damn you Little Walter for miking and amping the harp. That is NOT how it is supposed to sound.

Have you checked into TSA group meetings?..Thread Starters Anonymous.......It is helpful if you are addicted to starting new threads...even if they lack substance.
MrVerylongusername
1846 posts
Aug 15, 2011
3:08 PM
Count your blessings; It beats a hundred threads on "my 2 draw is busted"
Blues13
139 posts
Aug 15, 2011
3:35 PM
On the left of the screen just below Back in the game there's Brandon Bailey's album Memphis Grooves buy it, listen to it and then ask yourself who is insulting who.

Matin

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shbamac
140 posts
Aug 15, 2011
5:43 PM
Not insulting but I can't stand most "harpboxing". But some of the music out there where someone beatboxes a back beat or rhythm with a looper and them play harp over it works.
nacoran
4448 posts
Aug 15, 2011
8:22 PM
Sonny, there is a difference between saying you don't like a particular style and saying someone is insulting the craft of harmonica. What's worse is you didn't even take the time to make a good argument.

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Greg Heumann
1214 posts
Aug 15, 2011
10:33 PM
Check out Brandon Bailey - can't believe his name didn't come up yet. He is the current beat boxer champ and is doing great work, AND is bringing a new audience to harp. I don't think that's a bad thing.

Hell - just came from SPAH. I had my jaw dropped more than once. Buddy Green was the main show headliner and blew EVERYONE away - an entire show on diatonic harps and not one blues tune. It ain't MY music but it was GOOD music and it reached the ENTIRE audience in a big way. So was the bluegrass I heard, the Celtic, the jazz, the classical, the "Harmonicamento" group...

We ALL need to support ALL harmonica music. We are a small enough crowd as it is. You don't have to play it, or listen to it. But don't disparage it.

Jump ahead to 4 minute mark in this video. How good are YOUR fifth interval TB chords? (Blocking ONE hole, with one hole played on each side of it.)



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J-Sin
56 posts
Aug 16, 2011
3:03 AM
If you ask me, many harp players seem to neglect proper beatbox technique.

But to say something is "insulting the craft" without proper arguments is just narrow minded I think.

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SonnyD4885
64 posts
Aug 16, 2011
6:09 AM
then i retract my statement on it
bradon is very good i just feel that they took rap and the style of blues harmonica and turned it into something else its not my thing i like the soul of the instr. and if your thing is beat boxing on the harmonica thats cool but dose it have soul and feel to it

then thats for you sorry if you people are confused.

Last Edited by on Aug 16, 2011 7:50 AM
toddlgreene
3172 posts
Aug 16, 2011
6:18 AM
To each his own.

My meds don't allow me to get confused.

I really, really like beef jerky.

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Last Edited by on Aug 16, 2011 6:31 AM
Miles Dewar
1064 posts
Aug 16, 2011
6:37 AM
Beef jerky is SO good.......... I'm fully willing to trade a few harps for a case or two.
KingoBad
825 posts
Aug 16, 2011
7:13 AM
SonnyD4885, is English your native language?

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Danny
SonnyD4885
65 posts
Aug 16, 2011
7:42 AM
@kingobad yes i think faster than i type sorry but don't be an ass

Last Edited by on Aug 16, 2011 7:43 AM
earlounge
325 posts
Aug 16, 2011
7:46 AM
I agree with J-Sin on this one. There are only a few harp beatboxers that are taking the time to hone their beatbox skills and work on the SOUND of the beat.

If you are going to incorporate a sound into your performance then you should put an equal amount of importance on all the sounds you're producing. You wouldn't just start strumming a guitar without knowing how to play chords first.

Jantso is one of the only dudes I've seen that IMO is on the right path.

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Honkin On Bobo
726 posts
Aug 16, 2011
7:48 AM
"You wouldn't just start strumming a guitar without knowing how to play chords first."


Tell that to B.B. King
SonnyD4885
66 posts
Aug 16, 2011
7:55 AM
then did anyone start palying harmonica because of beatboxing harp or was it the blues.
toddlgreene
3174 posts
Aug 16, 2011
7:59 AM
I think there are a few beat-boxers who learned harp later on and incorporated it. Personally, I think beat-boxing is much easier to learn, and a decent harp player with a good sense of rhythm can pull it off.

Of course, half-assed beat boxing won't sound any better than half-assed harp, so some woodshedding will need to happen.
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Last Edited by on Aug 16, 2011 8:07 AM
Honkin On Bobo
728 posts
Aug 16, 2011
8:08 AM
In answer to the OP's question: I dislike it as much as you do("insulting the craft" might be a tad harsh but i feel ya)...but take it from someone who has tried to argue the position....you can't win. In my argument, I couldn't even get the other side to at least agree that most rap is less melodic than other forms of "music". When the argument veered into debating the pitch changes of the spoken word. I called it quits.

Face it, the camp that believes the harp must be taken into new directions (I don't necessarily disagree) will argue with you to the death.

Besides, musical taste has to be one of the most subjective topics argued by mankind. With movies running a close second.

Last Edited by on Aug 16, 2011 8:11 AM
earlounge
326 posts
Aug 16, 2011
8:21 AM
Yeah I know a few beatboxers that picked up harp as well as didgeridoo because they are tonal instruments that they can incorporate.

This guy has almost 9 million hits on this video, so He is making a pretty penny on the ad revenue! I bet he started playing harp because he beatboxes. IMO his beat box is decent, his harmonica is poor at best, creativity is his forte.



Check out my buddies who I think are an excellent example of good beat box "sound". He also plays the didgeridoo well.


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SonnyD4885
67 posts
Aug 16, 2011
8:22 AM
i agree i quit this topic thanks honkin
KingoBad
826 posts
Aug 16, 2011
10:11 AM
I apologize SonnyD. I thought there was a language issue. We have plenty of people on here from other countries. You might want to examine your opening comment on this thread. I get stuck trying to follow the logic and get lost in the unique grammar and lack of punctuation. I want to make sure I understand what you are trying to say. Like playing the harp, slow it down and take your time...
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Danny
isaacullah
1536 posts
Aug 16, 2011
10:14 AM
Try to tell me there's no soul in this. I dare ya!



BTW., I'm just back from summer excavations, so expect to see me more active on the forum again!
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toddlgreene
3176 posts
Aug 16, 2011
10:29 AM
I go on a vacation, and Isaac goes on an excavation. Dig it? He does! Welcome back.

That vid is killer. That guy is super-talented.
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J-Sin
58 posts
Aug 16, 2011
10:36 AM
Welcome back Isaac! Where were you this time?

You might wanna check out my new video ReedBeat (above in HarpNinja's post), it might be right up your alley!

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shanester
417 posts
Aug 16, 2011
10:46 AM
Looks like the "open minded" syndicate overthrew the differing opinion and seized control of the thread!

Today MBH, tomorrow the world!

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earlounge
329 posts
Aug 16, 2011
11:03 AM
J-Sin, that is you in the ReedBeat video? good job!

You don't happen to know my buddy Redmouth?

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J-Sin
59 posts
Aug 16, 2011
11:22 AM
@earlounge: Yep, Red's a friend of mine too. I've played two insane tours with him in the Baltics. We are also about to release a 7" soon. Give him my best regards! He's a true pal.

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earlounge
330 posts
Aug 16, 2011
11:33 AM
@J-Sin Awesome! I'm watching the videos on your website now. Very cool stuff! I went to high school with Eric. I sat in with him at a show the last time I visited my hometown in Alabama. Super cool dude! ICW to hear the new recording!

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isaacullah
1537 posts
Aug 16, 2011
2:06 PM
Thanks for the welcome back guys! I was in Galicia (Northwest Spain) this time, teaching a field school for undergraduates.

J-Sin! That new cut is awesome! Well done man! That's going on my YouTube playlist of the all-time best harpboxing vids for sure!

~Isaac
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