Littoral
234 posts
Jan 07, 2011
3:29 AM
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I'm color blind and, thanks to MBH,
I found out that the Statue of Liberty
isn't grey but green. This "observation"
emerged in another thread. OzarkRich,
thanks. Other than a few silly sock matches
I've really not had any major issues with being
color blind (red/green) but I gotta say it's nice to
know the color of the Statue of Liberty.
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jim
665 posts
Jan 07, 2011
4:59 AM
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hm... not to offend anyone, but how come you know what green is if you never saw it? I don't know how you guys see the world, just curious.
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toddlgreene
2411 posts
Jan 07, 2011
5:23 AM
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I've had the same conversation with my color-blind dad.
"Dad, if you can't see green, how do you negotiate traffic lights?"
"I stop on grey"
"Ah."
I'll have to ask him about the Statue of Liberty.
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Last Edited by on Jan 07, 2011 5:24 AM
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Andrew
1259 posts
Jan 07, 2011
5:23 AM
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That's because the SOL is copper-clad?
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jim
666 posts
Jan 07, 2011
5:26 AM
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I mean like I don't see ultraviolet or infrared - I can't even have a slightest idea what sort of color it is.
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toddlgreene
2412 posts
Jan 07, 2011
5:31 AM
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Andrew-yes...oxidation. Here in New Orleans, the French Quarter has lots of old buildings with copper rooves and gutters, and they quickly turn a green patina. Or grey,to my dad.
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Andrew
1260 posts
Jan 07, 2011
5:45 AM
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Yeah, I've never tried to imagine it. If you can't see red or green, then the world must appear grey with some blue in it.
If you can't see red, then the world looks green/turquoise/blue. Yellow appears green. I guess it's easy to synthesise the effect. I guess I'll look around on the internet for some pictures.
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toddlgreene
2413 posts
Jan 07, 2011
7:00 AM
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Anyone who takes their harps apart sees this oxidation on the reed plates as well, I would imagine-I know I do. I guess the green funk I see on mine wouldn't be so alarming if it was-gray funk...yes it would. Funk is funk. Time for the Barkeeper's Friend and a toothbrush!
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OzarkRich
318 posts
Jan 07, 2011
7:29 AM
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@Jim: I have to take everyone's word on whats green and red. I've never seen the colors. It could be that everyone else in the world has conspired to play a big joke on me and those colors don't really exist :)
Here's a list of so-called "real" colors and what I see:
red - brown
green - brown, gray or yellow (depending on the shade)
orange - brown or dirty yellow (depending on the shade)
pink - blue
purple - blue or dirty blue (depending on the shade)
blue - blue
yellow - yellow
black - black
white - white
brown - brown
gray - gray
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toddlgreene
2417 posts
Jan 07, 2011
10:36 AM
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Littoral-Damn, you mean I missed picking one of your flowers? I will have to be more thorough.
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KeithE
165 posts
Jan 07, 2011
11:14 AM
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@OzarkRich
What do you think about things like this?
DanKam: Augmented Reality For Color Blindness
A colorblind friend was not at all interested. His biggest problem is calibrating color video monitors, and he didn't feel that this would help.
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Philippe
65 posts
Jan 07, 2011
11:33 AM
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@Jim, I don't have it as bad Rich - I have seen red and green. However, I cannot differentiate certain hues of green-grey, green-red-brown, blue-purple, green-yellow, blue-black, etc. All depends on hue - 'pure' colours are usually fine.
I also just learned that the statue is green!
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toddlgreene
2420 posts
Jan 07, 2011
11:37 AM
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I've always known it was green since I am not colorblind, but I was sort of upset when I first found out it was made in France...
j/k
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jim
667 posts
Jan 07, 2011
11:39 AM
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by Eiffel by the way...
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toddlgreene
2421 posts
Jan 07, 2011
11:42 AM
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Nah, not Eiffel, but he makes nice towers, I hear...
By this guy:
Bartholdi
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nacoran
3593 posts
Jan 07, 2011
12:39 PM
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Eiffel had an apartment in the Eiffel tower. He lost it when he went broke. Can you imagine what an apartment in the Eiffel tower would be worth! That's probably one coolest addresses you could have, and most of the other really cool ones (1600 Pennsylvania Ave, 10 Downing Street) require an election!
As for grey gunk or green gunk, remember, when people put a copper roof on they often pay good money to get chemicals put on it to accelerate that patina. The patina also protects the metal underneath from corrosion. Each time you scrub that patina off you are exposing the elements below to the air.
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toddlgreene
2426 posts
Jan 07, 2011
12:46 PM
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Here's some more meaningless trivia concerning the Eiffel tower:The former ET third story restaurant was removed from the tower and moved here(New Orleans)about 30 years ago. it sits on St. Charles Avenue, along the street car route, and now houses an upscale supper club. I went to a soiree there years ago-it's a very cool structure.
Nac, with our high humidity down here, that patina happens without aid, and very quickly. I've seen some folks down here laquer the copper when it's either new or has been polished, to preserve the shine.
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Rich
10 posts
Jan 07, 2011
4:37 PM
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@nacoran.
'one of the coolest addresses you could have.' I know this is OT in this OT thread but there is a small house just off Hyde Park and its address is Number 1, London. That's gotta be the coolest eh?
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Littoral
236 posts
Jan 07, 2011
6:56 PM
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Trying to steal flowers from disabled people.
It's official, you can take the codger training wheels off.
Where's the moderator when you need them?
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toddlgreene
2435 posts
Jan 07, 2011
7:22 PM
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Relax, I only took the red ones...or WERE they red? Hmmmmmm?
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Andrew
1261 posts
Jan 08, 2011
1:24 AM
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Ozark, I'm interested that you can see yellow, as yellow light is a mixture of red and green light.
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Andrew
1262 posts
Jan 08, 2011
1:31 AM
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"The patina also protects the metal underneath from corrosion. Each time you scrub that patina off you are exposing the elements below to the air."
I gather that's how stainless steel works: it's covered with a one-molecule thick layer of Chromium oxide which is airtight. But if you put stainless steel under water and scratch it, instead of chromium oxide, you get chromium hydroxide, which is water soluble, so in theory all of the chromium will leach out of the metal into the water. Or something like that!
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Stevelegh
30 posts
Jan 08, 2011
2:51 AM
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I'd love to have seen it in copper.
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OzarkRich
320 posts
Jan 08, 2011
2:06 PM
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@KeithE: I checked out the DanKam and downloaded the app. I'll have to experiment with it later but here are my initial impressions:
It doesn't help me to actually SEE red or green; my green bullet mic still looks brown with any of the eight settings.
It does help me to distinguish colors by changing the shades; red will turn lighter and green darker (or vice versa depending on the setting). This only helps if I also look at the object and compare the two images.
When I worked in the printing industry I wore a dark red contact lens in only one eye that had a similar effect to this.
Perhaps those with less extreme color blindness might actually see more color with this app.
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