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pica-pica
6 posts
Nov 24, 2010
7:47 AM
Morning




I have a few questions on different combs. I recently bought a Seydel blues session, I noticed that air was leaking in when I play. Especially the lower holes. I put the blame on the spaces between the holes (it could be my ”amber-shire”, but I will NEVER admit that ;-)



I also have a Suzuki manji, and since it's a ”wood-like” comb the spaces are bigger, Thing is I love the cover-plates on the s.b.s. It's more comfortable (don't know what it's called but they cover all of the comb).



Is there a harp that has plastic (or otherwise) comb with the bigger spaces AND completely covering cover-plates?




I'm a bit sceptic against wooden combs regarding to moister and all that but if I have to get a harp with wood-comb in order to get bigger spaces and comfort, what's the secret? How do you prepare a wood-comb in order for it not to swell etc.





most humbly
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saregapadanisa
277 posts
Nov 24, 2010
8:01 AM
Lee Oskars have wider holes and plastic combs.

But, speaking under control of the wise men here, I don't think your leaking problem has much to to with that. Otherwise you would hear some music coming from the hole next door.

Your concern with leaking most probably comes from (in that order) :
- embouchure
- gapping
- actual leak beetween comb and reedplate.
AirMojo
34 posts
Nov 24, 2010
8:03 AM
I only know of the Seydel 1847 Silver (not the + plus) model that has larger holes, like the regular wood combed 1847.

You can order the full-length cover plates for the 1847 (has "1847" stamped on them) or use the Blues Session full-length cover plates.

But you need the longer screws like the ones on the Blues Session model. The screws for the regular 1847 are shorter and will not work on the full-length covers.

I like the full-length covers better on the 1847.

I have only ordered replacement covers for some of my 1847's that I already had, but I would think Seydel would put the full-length covers on, as long as you indicated so on the order comment. Best to check first.

Ken H in OH
nacoran
3293 posts
Nov 24, 2010
9:29 AM
The Seydel Blues Favorite has aluminum combs and full length covers. Mines really airtight.

Hohner Meisterklasse are similar.

Suzuki has several models with full length covers. I'm not as familiar with them though.

For bigger holes, the Lee Oskar is king, but it doesn't have the full length covers. You can get a Turbo Lid for it though from Turboharp.

For a wood harp, most guys suggest Butcher's Block sealant without any chemical drying agents. Some people use poly. Some people just sand them down. My favorite wood comb has rounded tips on the tines. This makes the hole effectively a little bigger, is smoother on the lips and is just all around awesome. You can also buy custom combs from Buddha or Randy Sandoval or several other customizers. They have wood and plastic combs available. (See the thread organizer link- customizers link in my signature.)

Full length covers for the 1847? Why didn't someone tell me that sooner?

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pica-pica
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Nov 24, 2010
1:46 PM
I'm sorry if I was a bit unclear, I don't want bigger holes, I want the spaces between the holes (comb-pins?) to be bigger
Thanks for all your answers
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nacoran
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Nov 24, 2010
6:41 PM
Pica, any particular reason?

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pica-pica
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Nov 25, 2010
2:26 AM
Narcoran:
Reasons for asking is that I have to order new harps online so I don't have any chance to see them "irl". The shops here in my area of Sweden don't carry harmonicas, and if so only the cheapest ones. I can't buy one of each just to look at them and pictures on the net don't aäways show what I want to know.
I hope this answer your question.
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nacoran
3303 posts
Nov 26, 2010
2:44 PM
Sorry, I was out of town for Thanksgiving. What I wanted to know is why you want the tines (comb pins) wider? If you are having a hard time isolating holes sometimes tines that stick out farther can help (from a custom comb), or practicing on a harp with really really really small tines, like a Hohner Puck. I actually used a Puck to get better at hitting just the hole I wanted. Hering has a harmonica with round holes. I was just wondering why you wanted the bigger tines in case one of those might help you. :)

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pica-pica
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Nov 28, 2010
4:06 AM
You're right I've got to finally give in, it's my "amber-shire" (can't believe I admit that:-D), I'll have to work on that, thanks for the tip about the puck. I'll try that.

Hardly any snow this night, and the internet is working again
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chromaticblues
341 posts
Nov 28, 2010
4:17 AM
pica the sydel blues soloist pro has wider than average comb teeth. They are recangular, but there not oval either. It really is the nicest wooden combed harp I've seen. It is fully sealed so it won't swell. Pretty easy to play. Some people have complained about it not last very long. So I would say if you do try them don't play to hard. There not to expensive either.


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