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Buddha
2551 posts
Oct 08, 2010
9:07 PM
Listen to both of these. The background music doesn't change, only the phrasing and tone of the voice.

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mikolune
46 posts
Oct 08, 2010
9:34 PM
yeah interesting - the second one is way better and moving, but cannot exactly put my finger one what it is. subtle stuff.
nacoran
2916 posts
Oct 08, 2010
10:10 PM
Good lesson. There are a lot of interesting voices in the mix. I love Steve Perry's voice, and I was surprised by how big Pink's voice was. Bob Dylan's voice never fails to annoy me. He's written some of my all time favorite songs, but they are all cover versions that I like.

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Sandy88
97 posts
Oct 09, 2010
12:37 AM
What exactly is the point of this thread? That it is possible to phrase something differently and that no human voice has the exact same timbre? I'm finally awake thanks
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captin beef harp
42 posts
Oct 09, 2010
6:17 AM
everybody can sing just some do it alot better than others and its funny how some voices annoy i find jasons ricci's voice
well hard to hear for long
Buddha
2552 posts
Oct 09, 2010
8:53 AM
guys, this isn't really about singing. So many people ask about developing an original voice on the harmonica and that starts with a foundation in understanding what it takes to create an original voice.

"We are the World" to me is the perfect example of how different people play/sing the same thing but with a completely original and distinctive slant.

What you should notice is the overall tone and phrasing of the singers. Tone doesn't necessarily mean having a full rich and thick sound, it's about having the ability to control that tone, sometimes it's thin, think and sometimes it's in between. The other component is phrasing... listen to how some singer hold certain notes where others will sing a series of notes in the same spot.

All of this can be applied to your harmonica playing in any style of music.
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Last Edited by on Oct 09, 2010 10:35 AM
rpoe
216 posts
Oct 09, 2010
9:47 AM
Thanks Chris. Good excercise.
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RyanMortos
842 posts
Oct 09, 2010
11:59 AM
Thanks for posting Buddha, good stuff!

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Blueharper
140 posts
Oct 09, 2010
2:02 PM
Thanks for the lesson,Bhodi.
KingoBad
422 posts
Oct 09, 2010
8:48 PM
Nice! I'm lessonified! Great stuff.

I think it is interesting to see how the original version was so much better than the remake. Perhaps it is because they are trying hard to copy the original instead of doing something new. Something to think about when playing your favorite old song.

Last Edited by on Oct 09, 2010 8:56 PM
nacoran
2931 posts
Oct 09, 2010
9:53 PM
Oh come on Sandy, I disagree with Buddha as often as anyone, but you are just being contrarian. Name another song where you are going to hear so many distinctive voices for comparison. How about contributing something to the conversation instead of just being the site troll?

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Sandy88
99 posts
Oct 10, 2010
1:14 PM
I think the real lesson here is that popular music keeps getting worse
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Littoral
114 posts
Oct 10, 2010
2:04 PM
A difficult concept, for some reason. I appreciate the effort to present the video as a lesson. Dylan is as fine an example of original voice as there has ever been (although not here, of course).
nacoran
2934 posts
Oct 10, 2010
2:13 PM
Sandy, I'm not a big fan of the song myself, but as a lesson in unique voices, well, 'World Class Harmonica Player' let's hear your lesson.

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Littoral
115 posts
Oct 10, 2010
2:13 PM
Related, I don't like the sound of pedals, maybe any of them. They disguise voice. This is part of why 57 mics and PA can sound so good. The only box I use is an original brown reverb unit and I rarely use it. It's between me and my connection across the grid.

Last Edited by on Oct 10, 2010 2:15 PM


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