I suppose Chris means Harmony-Central. If so I would agree. I don't think folks here were much offended by what was said to them but rather what was said about them. ---------- The Art Teacher Formally Known As scstrickland
Really Buddha? Really? How about a little compromise. Accept the apology but ask that he sets the record straight on the other forum to if you feel it's that important. You might want to apologize too, though. You stirred this pot quite a bit too, and for what it's worth, as a forum member, I was offended by some of what you said. If you want a cross forum apology you might want to log in over there too for yours.
I didn't do anything but be myself and try to help somebody.
I don't have to accept anybody's apology and if he were truly sincere, he would have done it on harmony central. I don't care if he apologizes for whatever happens on this forum.
Did you even read what he wrote Nacoran?
Let's review:
"I want to apologies to the forum for the mess I've stirred up and to Chris for getting upset with him"
He is saying sorry for being upset. Fuck that pussy bullshit. Everybody gets pissed and that never needs an apology. Feelings are valid whether or not we think so.
An apology would say something like. "Sorry for the things I said on....." Then he can offer an explanation about having anger issues if he chooses.
So Nacoran, you're taking offense because I refuse to compromise over an apology that was never issued? Get real.
And he's offended because I think a beginner should play better harps and because I called him an argumentative person that lacks judgment and prudence? That's the fucking truth plain and simple and warrants no apology nor a compromise from me on any level.
So he cuts and runs with the intent to slag shit at me and other members of MBH who only tried to help him. I still offered to give him a lesson and even offered him a full hour lesson which he declined. Fine by me.
So tell me again, why I or anybody should compromise and accept his words as an apology? ---------- "I am a great believer in understanding, not copying."
Nice that he make an attempt to apologize on HC but he makes it sound coerced or he's trying to buy our "acceptance".
"In an effort to promote peace on the Adam Gussow Modern Blues Harp forum I am posting this formal apology to Chris aka Buddha for my retaliation to his attack of me. Two wrongs don't make a right and I should have just let it slide off my back and deal with it without stirring up so much controversy. That is all. Thanks."
In an EFFORT to promote peace? A truly apologetic person would just say sorry and move on, not make an excuse for having to do so. How about a simple, "I'm sorry for the things I said about xxx and xxx" And he claims I attacked him? I didn't, I pointed out his error in judgment in an attempt to save him time and money in the future.
---------- "I am a great believer in understanding, not copying."
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"In an effort to promote peace on the Adam Gussow Modern Blues Harp forum I am posting this formal apology to Chris aka Buddha for my retaliation to his attack of me. Two wrongs don't make a right and I should have just let it slide off my back and deal with it without stirring up so much controversy. That is all. Thanks."
This is exactly what I mean about thinking before posting. Writing in an apology that you were attacked does not go over well, however well you meant it. Words are powerful. If you had taken a few moments to consider that, you probably would have left that out. It is indeed you who is continuing this, not Chris.
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Chris may have been not quite careful enough with his wording, but there is absolutely no excuse for the way you bad-mouthed and plain out insulted him on Harmony Central.
Here's a couple quotes from Harmony Central:
"I was thinking more of a line that Doc Holiday told some of em' in the movie "Wyatt Earp" which is "Kiss my Rebel Dick." Not too vulgar but it DOES get the point across. LOL."
"Yep, some people(normally ones that make too dang much money and take themselves way to serious musically) just make it real hard for others, like me, to get into playing a new instrument."
I find this a totally different. This is just plain trash talking. You really should be ashamed, and need to rethink things if you don't think you did something completely out of line. I don't mean to beat on this topic any more than need be, but this needs to be discussed, as it is a part of basic forum etiquette.
It should also be noted that Buddah in fact did try to end it very early on by offering you $90 worth of his services for free, even letting the offer stand after the above quotes were made. I don't call that not wanting to let it end. I call that being overly generous.
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Chris, yes, I read what he wrote. I also have been following the comments you've made over the last couple of days. You say that you shouldn't have to apologize for being himself. You consider him a fool. You say a lot of people are talking out their ass. He says we are snobs. He's basing what he says on his experience. You are basing what you say on your experience. He asked for an apology. You asked for an apology.
Yes, I was offended by what he said on the other forum, particularly because it was said somewhere where we wouldn't necessarily notice it and get a chance to respond. You've done the equivalent before by taking down posts you've made, making it appear like you are the victim. You've tracked down forum members you had a problem with on the forum OFF LINE. You've blown arguments up across multiple threads and had arguments across multiple harp forums. You've taken innocent comments as threats and issued counter threats. You've harassed members and then complained to moderators in emails behind there back that a member is harassing you and asked to have them banned.
The only time you came close to apologizing for any behavior was when I called you out on some of this in a forum thread and you offered to take down some posts in exchange for me taking down some of the posts where I called you out on this behavior.
So there you have it. I could wrack off a list of names of people who have left the forum because of you. You probably draw in new members too. Is that cosmic balance? Who knows? And when you are just obnoxious, it doesn't bother me so much, but when you turn around and play victim?
There is Buddha the victim again. What on that laundry list of items is out of line? I suppose I interjected a little opinion into the last paragraph. All the rest is just a list of things you've done.
Jim, moderators can only edit/delete posts or put up the semi-official lock banner (the hard lock is also just an Adam power). The only time, aside from spam I've ever deleted comments was to enforce the lock banner. I've never edited anyone's posts (except spammers). Only Adam (rightfully so, it's his site) wields the ban hammer. The sight doesn't have temporary bans like some sites. I'm at my wits end on this one. I've said my piece. I'll leave this to Adam now. No retractions, no regrets.
" nacoran - your actions are out of line for a mod. "
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No, Buddha. It's on nacoran to keep the forum civil based on his judgement calls. He was appointed by Adam for exactly that reason, respect that. You could have stopped all this at any time... just step away from the keyboard. It's that simple.
Man you are one rich mutha Im still pissed at the shit you layed down over the last few days hear and HC hay why buy 14 dollars harps man the usless to you buy a Kazoo and go away:( ---------- Period ----------
We're four days out from the full moon and this whole thread is moving quite nicely through the predictable postures, like a martial arts routine. Don't waste too much more of your precious weekend time, y'all.
I was a little miffed at TNFrank this morning, since the fundamental decency of this forum was being questioned, but he's surprised me in a good way and I have no rancor. Thanks, Frank. You did indeed try, and I respect you for that.
