Andrew
1139 posts
Aug 23, 2010
2:54 AM
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People say in another thread why they like the Bb most of all (and Adam and Jason by default). Perhaps it would be more interesting if they said instead why the A harp doesn't quite do it for them?
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arzajac
319 posts
Aug 23, 2010
3:07 AM
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To be able to play with a horn section?
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MrVerylongusername
1195 posts
Aug 23, 2010
3:23 AM
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I play with a horn section, they are actual quite capable of playing in natural keys. You just have to tell them who's the boss ;-)
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boris_plotnikov
214 posts
Aug 23, 2010
3:52 AM
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Bb transposing is the same as trumpet, clarinet, soprano & tenor sax. 1 hole overblow is easier than A, while 9-10 holes are not as high, as on C harp. Great for bunch of jazz tunes for original keys, playing with piano, saxes, trumpet, clarinet. Not so useful for playing with guitarists. Just my favorite key.
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jbone
380 posts
Aug 23, 2010
4:11 AM
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Bb in 3rd is very useful and good sounding. also in 2nd. i use Bb quite a bit in 3rd since nobody else does around here. this helps define my sound.
i do us A quite a bit as well but to me this is apples and oranges. both have their pluses.
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jim
333 posts
Aug 23, 2010
4:18 AM
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what is better - the thumb or the little finger?
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MrVerylongusername
1196 posts
Aug 23, 2010
4:29 AM
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The thumb - no question. Grasping branches -> tool-use -> brain development. Best thing that ever happened to us.
next!
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Andrew
1141 posts
Aug 23, 2010
4:29 AM
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Bb in third is a good suggestion.
The way others talk about horns makes me suppose guitarists are extinct. Maybe we could find some guitarist DNA in a mosquito and set up farms to breed them.
We could call it Bonamassic Park.
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Last Edited by on Aug 23, 2010 4:56 AM
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jim
334 posts
Aug 23, 2010
4:57 AM
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what I heard is that without the little finger you'll have a hard time holding a cup of coffee ;)
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earlounge
139 posts
Aug 23, 2010
8:21 AM
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"Bb transposing is the same as trumpet, clarinet, soprano & tenor sax."
This needs clarification. These instruments are transposing instruments in the key of Bb. When the band is playing in Bb these instruments are actually playing in C, that is why it is a good key for horns.
Harmonica is a concert pitch instrument. Meaning when we play a Bb it is a Bb on a piano or guitar.
If you really wanna bake your noodle then ponder this... In second position a Bb harp is for the key of F. On a Tenor sax the key of F is really G (still a great key for sax). So for a Tenor Sax to play in C (easiest key), then the band needs to play in Bb which you really need an Eb harp to play second position.
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nacoran
2595 posts
Aug 23, 2010
11:43 AM
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Stop it earlounge. You are hurting my brain.
:)
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bluesharper
131 posts
Aug 23, 2010
12:57 PM
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you could play a Bb chromatic as if it was a standard C chrom to go along with horns if your always playing with them.
Or a half valved diatonic or standard if you overblow and overdraw. The principle remains the same.
Has anyone really done that before?
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boris_plotnikov
215 posts
Aug 23, 2010
1:02 PM
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earlounge
I always consider all harmonicas except C as transposing instruments. If I play 4 blow with Bb harp I think it's C and I transpose music for harmonica. I actually know concert layouts for common keys good, but prefer to read music transposed for C harmonica.
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nacoran
2602 posts
Aug 23, 2010
1:29 PM
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Oh, and earlounge, did you ever get that video of Adam's show up?
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earlounge
141 posts
Aug 23, 2010
2:11 PM
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@boris - I understand what you mean and why you may use that thought process (it is easier than learning it 12 different ways). I just wanted to clarify that horns in Bb actually transpose up a whole step all the time.
@nacoran - I'm working on it! Hopefully will have some choice clips up soon.
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