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harmonicanick
842 posts
Aug 16, 2010
11:40 AM
I just heard this quote from John Cleary on the radio, he is a Brit, vocalist, songwriter and keyboards who has backed Taj Mahal

I guess the same could be said for the blues?
toddlgreene
1671 posts
Aug 16, 2010
11:44 AM
Jon Cleary has some great stuff! He has a good following here in NOLA.


Yeah, you'd definitely have to group Blues in there...and hot wings. But please don't discredit us for 'light' beer. I for one am ashamed of that abomination!
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harmonicanick
843 posts
Aug 16, 2010
11:49 AM
todd, I have heard that there are micro-brewery's springing up in the states as they are in the uk; because people have had enough mass produced, chemical beer shit, is that true? Can you get good beer locally?
Oisin
643 posts
Aug 16, 2010
11:51 AM
And Rap? 80s power ballads?
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shanester
168 posts
Aug 16, 2010
11:57 AM
Don't forget rock 'n' roll!
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toddlgreene
1672 posts
Aug 16, 2010
11:57 AM
Nick, absolutley there are... New Orleans has a few of its own. My favorite local(so far limited to on-tap as far as I know)is NOLA...
http://www.nolabrewing.com/

I've had the blonde and brown-both are excellently crafted and tasty. I prefer the brown a bit, though.

Most major cities(and some smaller ones)have microbreweries and brewpubs, especially in the northwest and in Alaska. Another cool thing that's done in places with brewpubs is the 'growler' jug-a half gallon glass jug you can get filled and refilled on site, and take away to enjoy. The prices are usually very reasonable.

I also brew my own ocasionally, and have a few friends who do as well. Once you taste the good stuff, it's hard to drink anything else.
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harmonicanick
844 posts
Aug 16, 2010
12:01 PM
Be careful when brewing your own, I had a batch sort of explode! Yeast and gunk all over the place, my Mrs put a stop to that:-(
toddlgreene
1673 posts
Aug 16, 2010
12:02 PM
power ballads....If I was ever personally responsible for any of these, I take this time to apologize to the world.

Oh, and we also came up with the Shake Weight...That's a thing of beauty.


@ nick, I've been lucky so far. Knock on wood!
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groyster1
344 posts
Aug 16, 2010
12:07 PM
@todd
once you drink the good stuff its hard to drink anything else so very true dont like mass produced american beer dont want it if offered to me by someone
toddlgreene
1676 posts
Aug 17, 2010
4:48 AM
Another US contribution, and please correct me if I'm wrong, was amplified harmonica. Bonus points to whomever names the first player known to do this, even if it wasn't recorded. I don't know the answer myself, but you can keep the points anyway.
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barbequebob
1138 posts
Aug 17, 2010
10:24 AM
Todd, I don't think there will ever be a completely true answer as to who amplified first but most of the tales I've heard is that SBWII was actually the first to do it, but the amplification was more for the vocals and harmonica was very secondary. I've seen a few pictures of SBWI playing thru a GB mic off the stand, but one has to remember, that and the JT30 were all standard mics used for PA usage back then and the PA was a far different animal that what we see now and the stuff like the Masco and all that were basically OK for high school auditoriums but for clubs, there were often inadequate in terms of volume back then and so most people used guitar amplifiers as PA's and if you look at most vintage amps made from the mid 50's and earlier, there usually was one input marked microphone, and it had NOTHING at all to do with harmonica because it waw voiced so that the vocals would always carry over the guitar, which was also plugged into it and there was no such thing as low impedance microphones back then.

George Harmonica Smith bought a used movie theater projector in the late 40's to use as an amp (really a PA), but I doubt if anyone really knows the truth.
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toddlgreene
1681 posts
Aug 17, 2010
10:41 AM
Bob, you make an interesting point-a combination of the old station-type mics and small wattage tube p.a.systems as standard gear. I bet whomover did this first(even though it was because that's all that was available), and just happened to cup that mic while playing, thereby driving those tubes to overdrive and then the resulting rich, creamy tone must have been quite shocked at first. I'm willing to bet it was all a really cool accident!
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ZackPomerleau
970 posts
Aug 17, 2010
10:56 AM
I have a feeling it wasn't like that, I bet they did it to be heard and they just dealt with the sound (like guitar players did with tube amps also).
Albey
6 posts
Aug 17, 2010
11:31 AM
Snooky Pryor claims to be the first in many interviews and he told me that personally. Do I believe him, hell no. LOL

Here is a picture of John Lee taken in the 40’s



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barbequebob
1139 posts
Aug 17, 2010
12:30 PM
Most of those guys just wanted something to get their sound across and in the least expensive way possible. On top of that, many musical instrument stores, often white owned, wouldn't let them get near the better stuff of the day and, as stated by Louis Myers in an interview together with LW just before LW passed away (this appeared on a very early issue of Living Blues magazine), if they put their hands on it, they owned it (obviously meaning don't even think of trying them out).

They certainly weren't looking for distortion in those days. and the whole distortion thing is realy something more popular among white musicians, especially from the time of the "British Invasion" in the mid 60's, and until then, every manufacturer wasn't going for dirty at all, and if anything, cleaner and cleaner would be a lot closer to the truth.

Look at a YT video of Butterfiled from the mid 60's, where he's not only blowing harp thru a JT30, he's also singing thru it as well.

When Shure introduced the Vocal Master PA in the early 60's, that was state of the art back then and far more powerful than anything that had ever been made for such use and they were (until the last few years of production in the late 70's) all hi-z inputs and mics that were all hi-z, like the JT30's, GB's, 545's, PE-55's, PE-585's, PE-533's, all hi-z (until later in the 70's for the 585's) mics.

The really powerful PA setups (later under the heading of sound reinforcement) as well as lo-z, didn't come into use (except in high end pro situations) until The Beatles played their now famous concert at Shea Stadium in NYC, out of necessity.
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ZackPomerleau
971 posts
Aug 17, 2010
12:39 PM
Bob, please post that Butterfield video.
barbequebob
1140 posts
Aug 17, 2010
12:46 PM
I'll try to do a bit of searching for it, but I think (I may be wrong on this, however) this may have been posted on another forum somewhere, and hopefully this video may still be on YT.

BTW, there are plenty of pictures of Junior Wells not only playting thru a JT30, but singing thru one as well.
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