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clarksdale
46 posts
Jun 17, 2010
7:45 PM


I got a Hohner Crossover in keys of A & D today. Wasn't impressed AT ALL. So i made a video of 2 good harps to make me feel better for wasting $$ i didn't really have to waste, the Special 20 and the Suzuki Harpmaster. I put a small dab of orthodontist wax on the Draw Reed of the six hole of the Suzuki. See what you think of the overblows. No squeal.

Anyways, don't bother with the Hohner Crossover. Stick in the $30-40 range or either buy a custom. Or just get a special 20 or harpmaster and i think you'll be happy.
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Last Edited by on Jun 17, 2010 7:51 PM
Todd Parrott
111 posts
Jun 17, 2010
8:19 PM
I'm not a Crossover player either, but the Crossover T-Shirt looks cool. :-)

What did you not like about the Crossovers? Do you think you could make some adjustments to them to make them play better? It's a shame to spend that kind of money on harps and be disappointed - I know the feeling. Or, I guess you could always send them back to Hohner.
clarksdale
47 posts
Jun 17, 2010
10:11 PM
Howdy Mr. Ace,
I have enjoyed your videos while on my Harmonica Quest.
Well, i've tried "ALMOST" every make and model out there and i was expecting a bit more from all the hype.
(and yeah, the T-shirt does look cool ha)

First thing i noticed, my A harp only had 3 coverplate screws instead of the 4 it should have. I was like, eh, whatever. But on a $60 harp, that's not cool.

I'm sure i could make a good bit of adjustments and make it play better, but i guess the same question we all are asking is WHY on a $60 harp can't the gapping be at least HALF decent?

Most special 20s i get are pretty playable OOTB and also are the HarpMasters.
I do own 1 Suzuki MANJI and it is a pretty decent harp.
Much better than the CrossOver in my opinion.
I don't really have a ton of extra time to tinker about with my Harps other than a quick gapping job and setting up the 6 and 7 ob od.
I've got a kid, so it'd be nice if someone could make a decently set up harp at an affordable price.
The HarpMaster and Special 20 are about as close as it gets as far as i can tell.
I wasn't too crazy about the tone of the CrossOver compared to the 20 either.
Oh well, back to the Drawing board.
And for those of you worried about the HarpMaster squeal on the overblows, check out the video above. Just a little dab of wax on the draw reed rivet area does the trick. Or you CAN do without it if you aren't intending to bend and sustain the OB.
peace out,
-$Daddy Rich$
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Todd Parrott
113 posts
Jun 17, 2010
11:54 PM
I hear ya. If it were me, I would send those Crossovers to Hohner and ask them to adjust them.

Glad you like my videos - thanks.
AV8R
14 posts
Jun 18, 2010
5:34 AM
I bought a Crossover in the key of C at Guitar Center ($56+tax).

It played fine out of the box, (which is always a relief!) but to my ears it is overly bright and doesn't have the raspy, raw sound of a Marine Band. I don't know why that would be, but I would rather have gotten two MB's for just a few bucks more.
earlounge
102 posts
Jun 18, 2010
10:55 AM
I love my crossover in G (had it a few weeks). It plays well and sounds nice. I can get a 6 OB easier than any other OOTB harp I have (I am still a beginner).
Kingley
1269 posts
Jun 18, 2010
11:01 AM
AV8R - It's because the tuning is slightly different to a Marine Band 1896.
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clarksdale
48 posts
Jun 18, 2010
11:20 AM
Earlounge, i'm glad you are enjoying yours. It's not a hideous harp. I'm just biased as i've had the opportunity of trying out so many other makes and models. If it was $40or$45 bucks i probably would even be bitchen. Then again, it's harder (at least for me) to judge quality on a G harp. Once you get to the C and higher the true colors tend to shine through it seems.
Yeah Ace, maybe i'll mail them back to Hohner and ask them to send me a special 20. (or at least send me my missing screw)
AV8R & Kingley, i agree with BOTH of you.
take care,
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groyster1
127 posts
Jun 18, 2010
5:22 PM
own a crossharp in d great harp but is it worth twice the price of a special 20 HELL NO!
earlounge
103 posts
Jun 18, 2010
5:47 PM
@clarksdale Yeah, you may be right... I was thinking of getting a D Crossover to see how the higher ones are. BTW I couldn't watch your vid until I got home. Sounding good mang!
Aussiesucker
641 posts
Jun 18, 2010
6:00 PM
Have one Crossover in Ab & love it. Crunchy, raspy lovely harp. But, it's far too expensive in Oz at $94 when a Manji is just as good at $66.

Agree that the Harpmaster OOTB is a great harp but by comparison the Manji comes out in front.
clarksdale
49 posts
Jun 18, 2010
6:55 PM
Earlounge, if you want my D Crossover you are welcome to it. Only played once. I'll let you have it half price including shipping (to USA) $30.00 and i'll go get me a Special 20.
you can email me at:

clarksdale AT daddyrich.com

If anyone else want's the A Crossover i'll do the same for you as well. thanks,
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MP
497 posts
Jun 18, 2010
9:21 PM
i wonder why filisko and levy gave it great reviews on video. you can see them on the home page.

i have two crossovers that were great out of box. maybe i got lucky.

Last Edited by on Jun 18, 2010 9:22 PM
earlounge
104 posts
Jun 19, 2010
10:48 AM
@clarksdale I'm interested, so I sent you an email
pharpo
319 posts
Jun 19, 2010
7:11 PM
I have only one Crossover- in C. Worked / works fine OOTB. Also have a Solist Pro in C that I really like AND about was 20 bucks cheaper. I have heard that the solist pro has "longevity" issues however. We'll have to see.
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clarksdale
51 posts
Jun 21, 2010
10:56 PM
Sold, thanks guys.
These harps aren't "terrible" they just aren't for me. Like i said, the pricetag is just a bit high considering the other $30-40 harps are just as good or actually better in my opinion. that's what it all is though eh, opinion.
take care all,
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captainbliss
222 posts
Jun 22, 2010
4:44 AM
@MP:

/i have two crossovers that were great out of box. maybe i got lucky./

I have 3. All great OOTB. Maybe we're both lucky?

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captainbliss
MP
516 posts
Jun 22, 2010
10:13 AM
bliss, SHHHHSS.

maybe these are great harps?
groyster1
141 posts
Jun 22, 2010
10:28 AM
agree with clarksdale they are over priced but think they have great action easiest to bend harp I have is my crossover in d
clarksdale
52 posts
Jun 22, 2010
12:46 PM
Here's a spinoff of a new topic i'm posting. Please sample this vid of me playing my Special 20 in Bb and tell me what level you guys think i'm at. Maybe that will help ME in deciding about my judgement on harmonica REVIEWS. thanks. BUt yeah, the CrossOver is "ok", just not for me and the price i expect a bit more quality control. here's the new video anyway:

THANKS!
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