MP
350 posts
May 29, 2010
3:46 PM
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it seems most custom MB 1896s have only 2 forward screws holding the coverplates down. this practice obviously leaves nail holes in the rear. i use 4 1/72 slotted screws to even things out ala MBDs. i guess i just like symetry.
so....is there a sonic reason for only useing 2 screws? or is it just convenient? or is it distribution of screw tension? or....IS IT, shhhhhh! a secret?
i notice MANJIs have only 2 screws.
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Ryan
285 posts
May 29, 2010
3:58 PM
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From what I've heard, it supposedly creates the optimal "distribution of screw tension". If you prefer the look of having 4 bolts/screws, I would suggest you just not tighten the two rear bolts.
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htownfess
106 posts
May 29, 2010
6:05 PM
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Some very strong grippers have been known to end up squashing their coverplates when using only two forward screws, because the sides of the covers can splay at the back under pressure. So a pair of not-tight screws in the back like Ryan suggests can do more than look right to you.
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MP
353 posts
May 29, 2010
6:21 PM
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ryan! htownfess! howzit goin'?
i'm glad niether of you suggested it had something to do with time/space continum or fractals....whatever that means.
i'll guess ryan is correct on screw distrubution though i also think it just makes for faster access with only 2 screws.
htownfess.
talk about hard grippers. a student of mine showed up with his MANJI all mashed in. MANJI covers are pretty thin but this was excessive punishment. i bent it all back with a duckbill and reshaped it with a screwdriver handle. nice harps though.
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oldwailer
1261 posts
May 29, 2010
6:50 PM
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I like symmetry too--so I used to drill out both places where the nails go--but the holes are too close to the cover you can't get a nut on the screw that way.
So I started offsetting the screws out a little--and found that, with my primitive tools, it's a bitch get the screws to line up and look right and match up with each other on both ends--one ends up looking a little sceewampus, no matter what I do.
So then I made this really clever little box that I could slip the whole harp into--then slide these little levers over the whole shebang and drill the goddamn holes where God intended them to be every time without fail.
Then I found out that it's really best to put just one screw in each end just like my master Buddha does on his harps for some enigmatic ethereal metaphysical reason.
Shit!
I still like the four screws though--I've never been able to tell the difference when I play--but then I have a hard time telling Sugar Blue from Sonny Boy Terry. . .
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MP
354 posts
May 30, 2010
1:05 AM
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so wailer,
the anti-christ(hence the name buddha) learned you to put just 2 screws cuz it's like metaphysical or mephistophical and therefore inexplicable? cool.
i still think those nail holes look so utterly half assed. i'm sorry...jeez..custom harp looks unfinished etc.
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Harpaholic
150 posts
May 30, 2010
8:13 AM
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If you use reed plate screws that are 1/4"- 3/8" longer than stock screws at the back of the reed plates, they will act as a supports for the cover plates.
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MP
357 posts
May 30, 2010
12:01 PM
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harpaholic,
yeah, ive seen that and it's a good idea for harp crushers.
i find that crushers also play too hard and blow reeds. (i can't imagine someone strangling their harp but playing with normal pressure)
i'll replace the reeds and just bend their harps back to normal. then i give a word of advice and forget about it.
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barbequebob
873 posts
May 30, 2010
12:09 PM
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MP, what you just said in your 2nd paragraph of your last post I've often found to be the truth as well, and they're also usually the ones who also tend to play wioth a wet mouth all the time as well.
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Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
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MP
359 posts
May 30, 2010
12:31 PM
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ditto on the wet mouth bob.
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oldwailer
1263 posts
May 30, 2010
4:35 PM
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Yeah, MP--the only way an MB can look really finished to me is to put two screws in each end--basically replacing the nails. I have also sometimes centered a single hole between the nail holes--but then it ends up looking kind of half-done on two holes.
My standard way to do it is now two screws each end--if it sounds worse or lets the metaphoosical incuberances leach through the tarmac--I just don't care--I like them that way, and I really don't have to please anybody else. . .
Last Edited by on May 30, 2010 4:36 PM
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Harpaholic
151 posts
May 30, 2010
10:34 PM
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the only time I crushed a harp, was when I forgot I had one in my back pocket.
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MP
361 posts
May 31, 2010
11:47 AM
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i had a teenage crush on the harp and never got over it.
but seydel makes a harp case that is ideal for crushing harps. it has 14 thick tight elastic squeezers. that'll do the trick. i keep tools in my seydel case.
i'm also wary of those lee oskar 7 harp cases.
Last Edited by on May 31, 2010 11:49 AM
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