sheatravis
1 post
Apr 05, 2010
2:35 AM
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For each different key of harp are the holes all different notes? (ex) key of c 4b=C, key of a 4b=A ?? thank you.
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GermanHarpist
1332 posts
Apr 05, 2010
2:49 AM
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that's it.
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Elwood
428 posts
Apr 05, 2010
2:56 AM
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Why not study this handy 12-page document to figure it all out:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/HarpLayout.pdf
Quick! Where's the low Db on a F# harp?
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Murray. The smartist formerly known as Elwood.
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Kingley
1084 posts
Apr 05, 2010
3:01 AM
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Elwood - Wow! That's a great resource. Thank you for posting the link to it. I would recommend everybody to download that.
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captainbliss
22 posts
Apr 05, 2010
3:13 AM
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I concur. It's getting its own thread.
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LeeEdwards
58 posts
Apr 05, 2010
4:23 AM
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That really is sweet. I'm adding it to my site.
Any idea who created that document so that I can credit them?
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"You will never get every possible thing out of an instrument, but the instrument will get every possible thing out of you" - Ray Charles.
Last Edited by on Apr 05, 2010 5:07 AM
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barbequebob
677 posts
Apr 05, 2010
8:48 AM
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It's a very useful tool for a beginner to remind them of what is and what is NOT available as either a bend or an overblow. Too many players destroy 5 draw obn their harps all the time trying to find bends that don't exist.
Now the next step for the average player is to memorize all of that.
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Fredrider51
131 posts
Apr 05, 2010
4:56 PM
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play are the harps like they were the c harp.. get to know that one then they will all fall in place...like Adam just said in his last vidio think of the holes as root 3rd 5th 7th so and so on not as notes .. not a expert here though
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Fred
HARP (Harmonica Assn 'Round Philly)
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groyster1
8 posts
Apr 05, 2010
4:57 PM
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its my understanding is that you do not bend 5draw or 7blow there is no need to do it plus it will cause the reeds to go bad
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mojojojo
37 posts
Apr 05, 2010
8:42 PM
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Charlie McCoy has a harmonica book which says:
"5th Hole Bend
The F of the 5th hold will almost bend down to E. It can be used more as an effect than a note change."
It's there if you have use for it, and the reeds which will go bad first are the ones you bend the most, right?
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nacoran
1585 posts
Apr 05, 2010
9:00 PM
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I think a better way to think about it is to think about it in terms of do re mi. The four hole blow is always the do note for first position on any Richter tuned diatonic.
There are twelve notes, each a half step apart, in an octave, but in any major key you'll only play eight. Each key is the same pattern of half and whole steps, just starting on a different note. Learn the circle of fifths so you know how to figure out cross harp positions, but the rest of the theory stuff you can learn as you get more experience.
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alleycatjoe
58 posts
Apr 05, 2010
10:24 PM
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Doesnt little walter bend five draw in the third chorus of juke in the opening four bars of that chorus.
i agree that thinking in movable do or the numbers of the scale 12345678 works good for the harp since most harp players dont read. and all you got do is pick up a different harp to transpose in the same position for instance ive always looked at the opening lines of juke as 135688 of the scale or do me sol la do do and the bends on 2 draw in 2nd position as maj 7 amd minor 7 of the scale and the bend on 5draw as b5.
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groyster1
10 posts
Apr 05, 2010
11:23 PM
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its my interpretation that the opening juke riff is 2draw,3draw,4draw then 5blow followed by a3-6 octave split
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alleycatjoe
60 posts
Apr 06, 2010
12:48 AM
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right but the notes of the scale are of that lick on an A harp in second position in the key E Major is 2daw E which is the 1 of the scale of E and 3draw G# which is the 3 of the scale of E 4draw is B which is 5 in the scale of E the 5blow C# is 6 in the scale of E and the octave split 3blow and 6blow is ! and 8 in the scale of Emajor.
the numbers i was using werent hole on the harp they they represented the numbers of the notes in the scale
its easier to explain this in the key of C with no sharps and flats
this is the C scale CDEFGABC and the corresponding numbers for the notes of that scale are 12345678
c d e f g a b c
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
so in any scale the notes that little walter in opening lick of juke is playing is 1356 and for the octave split 1and 8 of the scale
btw its questionable as to whether little walter is using 2 draw or 3blow for the first note of the lick personaly i think he might be using three blow but ive always used 2 draw
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groyster1
12 posts
Apr 06, 2010
11:40 AM
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its great to have so many knowledgeful people in this forum I am going to the hill country harmonica retreat in may I feel I will gain a wealth of knowledge there
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