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GermanHarpist
1284 posts
Mar 18, 2010
7:42 PM
Just a little tip that helped me a lot with learning LP and now TB. Your lips or embouchure shouldn't hinder the airflow in ANY way. I achieve this by widening my embouchure as much as possible. If I 'feel' the airstream somewhere (on my lips, tongue,...) I do something wrong. Only when a free (in any way unhindered) airflow is given does it make sense to work on tone.

Of course the embouchure should also not leak air... I have to say I have problems with that and TB. Somehow air streams by my lips... I'll just have to work on it I some more.

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nacoran
1453 posts
Mar 18, 2010
9:37 PM
GH- One of the things I noticed about my playing when I started recording myself was how much noise from air leaks a microphone can pick up.

There are times to leak a little air or draw a little extra in so you can set up for a long string of blows or draws, but you have to make sure you aren't make weird noises. You're right, it took me longer to get a consistent seal with tongue blocking.

Off topic- Do you have any idea how to do a Wiki?

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GermanHarpist
1285 posts
Mar 19, 2010
3:34 AM
No clue about wiki's, but I'm all with you on that one...

Could we talk sometime personally? Maybe even a conference call with oda (or other interested people) to discuss the idea a little.

EDIT: We could do it at the 'chat' or over skype...

Btw. thanks for the response ;) good to know that before I go on stage to test my first live TB...
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Last Edited by on Mar 19, 2010 3:52 AM
praefect
27 posts
Mar 19, 2010
10:21 AM
nacoran, I'm a computer guy, I set up many wikis before, are you on linux or windows?... anyway if you need help I would gladly help you out.

So you're behind this site I guess?
GermanHarpist
1287 posts
Mar 19, 2010
10:47 AM
Cool, anybody else interested? Let's meet up and brainstorm it a little! my skype name is: 'georginbraunschweig'.
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nacoran
1455 posts
Mar 19, 2010
3:07 PM
praefect- I'm just a lowly mod running on Windows. I was thinking a wiki would be a great tool for organizing the wealth of information the users have. I started on the bare bones of a glossary of harmonica terms in my definitions thread.

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GermanHarpist
1291 posts
Mar 19, 2010
11:57 PM
So, how do we do this? New thread? Little chat first, maybe?

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praefect
30 posts
Mar 20, 2010
9:53 AM
this is a good starting point, you want to use option 2 since the site is using IIS6.

the main point is that you need to setup PHP because that's what wiki is based on and the current site uses ASP (windows web technology).

you'll basically end up with 2 different technologies on the site...

it's not so bad really.

to thrive, a wiki needs good input from the community which means having tech-savvy users to learn the wiki language.

try and edit some wikipedia pages if you haven't already, that'll give you an idea.

if you already have a bunch of content to publish (i.e. harmonica encyclopedia in the making) then the wiki platform is as easy to use as any other publishing tech out there and gives you the added bonus that anyone can add to it. If you don't have this starter, then you could be disappointed, people won't just organize and work on it, i'm just saying that from experience, many wikis never take off.

There is a lot of harp info (technical and not) that could be centralized and organized in a single place, that would make MBH a kickass central point in the online harp world IMHO.

you did a good job already...

if you think you have that starting block of info check out the link and tell me if you need help.

borisHARPdeschenes@gmailHARPcom(replace HARP by a dot)
GermanHarpist
1292 posts
Mar 20, 2010
10:48 AM
Thanks for the info, praefect

The online information on harmonica is extended, but it is sizable. There is a good amount of people (many on this forum) that have pretty good knowledge where this information can be found.

I think that just to avoid the same old questions over and over some will be motivated to start work on the wiki. And if you could integrate it into the website/forum well enough, it will definitely be in use.

So did I understand that correctly you install the wiki at home first to program and configure. Then you install/upload it to a rented server which is online all the time?

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Last Edited by on Mar 20, 2010 11:22 AM
nacoran
1467 posts
Mar 20, 2010
11:10 AM
I like tracking down and organizing information but my programming/software skills aren't up to snuff.
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GermanHarpist
1295 posts
Mar 20, 2010
11:15 AM
As I understand only installing and customizing it really need programming sills. Then it is only text editing and this should be doable by everyone if they put a little bit of time into learning the formatting language. And then you have the perfect information management tool at your hands...

It would be interesting to know how much you can actually alter the wiki to organize the info accurately and how much effort/time installation would take.
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Last Edited by on Mar 20, 2010 11:19 AM
praefect
31 posts
Mar 20, 2010
3:04 PM
installation needs a bit of know-how.

you needto setup the server, it is not something you can upload, the server needs to have a database back-end to store the content created by the user (similar to this forum, what I'm typing needs to end up somewhere, in the case of wiki, this is a mysql database system) but also the PHP rendering engine.

currently, do you have real access to the server through remote desktop, or do you only interface with the server with a web interface and/or ftp to upload files? this kind of setup needs a real direct administrative contact with the machine.

this wiki could be hosted anywhere on the net really, asking the hosting company if they can provide you with the required functionality (wiki) might do the trick, if you have DNS control, you could create wiki.modernbluesharmonica.com and direct it anywhere in the world to a linux box running the wiki + mysql + php (takes 5 minutes to set up on a linux box) this machine could be your PC at home with a fixed IP or any cheap hosted server people would never know.

don't hesitate to email me, I'll help you out, especially if you don't have any access/options withyiu current hosting solution (domaincityhosting I think it is...)
GermanHarpist
1298 posts
Mar 20, 2010
3:53 PM
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents

This is basically what the editors would have to know. It finally is a little bit more than I expected, but it's really a neat way of having everything organised. At the end it's about as dificult as html (like using the forum), however an editor and very good explanations are included. IMO once you've got it infront of you it should be pretty easy to get a hang of.
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Last Edited by on Mar 20, 2010 4:06 PM
nacoran
1474 posts
Mar 20, 2010
9:27 PM
Yeah. It looks doable. I've edited a couple articles on Wikipedia, mostly just grammar and punctuation stuff. I used to know a little HTML but I've forgotten it. Looks like it's time to dust off the old brain.

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