Kingley
785 posts
Feb 02, 2010
6:19 AM
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There are a couple of ways to do this.
The way I do this technique is to place my tongue on the comb of the harp and then rhythmically lift it on and off as I draw on the chord (you can also use an octave). I find it works best on holes 2-5 for most people who are learning this technique.
There is also another way to perform the same thing (which most people cannot do) which is by moving your tongue left to right in a rapid motion as you draw on the chord or octave.
An important thing to remember is that you don't need to move your tongue very far using either method. You also do not need to do it very fast for it to be effective. What you will of course need to be able to do is to tongue block. As far as I'm aware you can't do this technique using lip pursing (I could be wrong on that though).
I hope this helps.
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Ray
119 posts
Feb 02, 2010
6:29 AM
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I haven't been able to build the speed needed with the on-off method. I can do left to right extremly fast with no problem. But to my ears the on-off method sounds better.Maybe because most of the pro's I listen to on cd are using the on-off method. I'll keep working on my on-off method speed.:)
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jonsparrow
2026 posts
Feb 02, 2010
8:39 AM
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iv been practicing this for awhile now. its very hard to do the on off method. i can do it pretty good but if you ask me to do it for like 10 sec. i would totally mess up. even 5 sec.
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sorin
134 posts
Feb 02, 2010
8:49 AM
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Are you talking about the thing he plays starting at 2:25 ?
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Andrew
865 posts
Feb 02, 2010
9:09 AM
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In my opinion there are some people who just can't tongue quickly. I say this because I played the oboe for a decade. Now I didn't practise as much as some people, but at the end of a decade I should have been able to tongue fast, but I couldn't.
The second technique in that vid Shellist tongues daa-da-da daa-da-da. I can only play it that speed if I tongue it daa-da-ka daa-da-ka.
The first technique, if it can only be done by moving the tip of the tongue quickly back and forth, I'm just going to have to live without or find a work-around!
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Kinda hot in these rhinos!
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Kingley
787 posts
Feb 02, 2010
9:33 AM
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Yes it does take a bit of practice to get. You are basically playing the octave (in this case 2-5 draw) and then just lifting your tongue off enough to get a momentary sound of the chord. As Andrew rightly states a kind of daa-da-da daa-da-da.
You don't have to move your tongue too rapidly though (in relative terms) to get this sound for it to be effective when using the on/off technique.
If you do the side to side thing it's a little different sound I think (I can't do it myself) but you are basically switch form a left to right tongue block with a momentary slur of the chord as I understand it.
I could be wrong on that though because as I say I can't do that technique (yet!).
Last Edited by on Feb 02, 2010 9:34 AM
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nacoran
962 posts
Feb 02, 2010
9:41 AM
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Left to right makes a slightly different effect than on off, but with a little work you can use them for similar things.
Ray- Another way to get the on off thing is instead of just gently touching the harp with your tongue, flick it up and down, almost like you would use your thumb for snapping.
Kingly- You can get a similar effect is like tolga said, rolling your R's, but that only works well on blow notes and it has a different tonality.
If you are using it for a final note I find that slowly expanding the number of notes you are playing sounds nice.
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