groyster1
3310 posts
Jan 27, 2019
2:04 PM
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the stones let it bleed album goes back 50 years.....the local bar band would like to do midnight rambler and would like to blow harp on it......the licks sound pretty simple....on the studio album Im not sure if mick is on harp.....I think not
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SuperBee
5785 posts
Jan 27, 2019
6:02 PM
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It’s an E harp I think. I found it pretty simple when we were jamming on that tune. A bit too simple really; ok for mick when he has all the vocal to deliver but if you’re just playing the harp it’s pretty repetitive and the main trick is deciding when enough is enough. I don’t know if it is mick on the record. I have always believed so and I think I remember reading that it is but I won’t be surprised to find otherwise. Quite well within his capabilities though.
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Prento
51 posts
Jan 27, 2019
10:21 PM
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There are plenty of live Stones recordings to listen to for more ideas as well.
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AppalachiaBlues
236 posts
Jan 28, 2019
10:16 AM
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Yes, Mick played harp on the studio album. The song is key of B, he played on an E-harp... very simple, staying in the bottom 3 or 4 holes, playing all (or nearly all) draw notes. Its an easy song to improvise on, adding a bit more that Mick did. Great song, and one of my all-time favourite Stones tracks.
Get yer ya yas out!
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Jan 28, 2019 10:22 AM
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groyster1
3312 posts
Jan 28, 2019
10:28 AM
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agree…….its not difficult harp to do......hope to work it in…...the licks came during micks vocals so it must be dubbed in...…...I don't do vocals so maybe I can do my part okay
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AppalachiaBlues
237 posts
Jan 28, 2019
11:45 AM
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Yes, the studio albums nearly always had Mick's harp on a separate track.
Check out the live version on Ya-Ya's where he plays and sings - I think its the definitive version of the song.
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The Iceman
3759 posts
Jan 28, 2019
12:42 PM
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I always thought this was a perfect example of simple harmonica in total service of the song....even the tone is great.
Maybe I'm just an old fogie, but to me, it seems this was more of a Golden Age of great music all across the spectrum.
Current music all across its spectrum is starting to sound like the same thing....some recent country tunes have fantastic fretless bass funk lines and pretty good rock lead guitar ideas, for example.
Just like how some in our society are trying to eliminate the differences between us and create some kind of homogenized everything - all the same entity of some new sort....
I always enjoyed the differences, myself. Why eat at a banquet where everything tastes the same when one can enjoy so much diversity by leaving things alone...(rhetorical question)
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rbeetsme
1710 posts
Jan 28, 2019
3:53 PM
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I thought I remembered that Sugar Blue did a lot of the harp on the Stones recordings. Not sure which ones.
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groyster1
3313 posts
Jan 28, 2019
4:27 PM
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its easier to figure out on the let it bleed album...….I just need to figure the fills off the vocals......not difficult but fun and hopefully effective
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nacoran
10047 posts
Jan 28, 2019
4:57 PM
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Iceman, you are right... you do sound like an old fogie! :P
Lol...
I suspect it's got less to do with deliberate effort to eliminate the differences and more to do with how easy it is to get exposed to a million varieties of music. I know guys who are into rap, soul, country, rock...
There are a lot of cool fusion things going on with styles that I like but a lot of it gets overdone pretty quickly. The first time I heard that autotune warble I thought it sounded pretty cool. I was over it by the third time though. I've noticed, and I've seen studies that bare it out, that popular music is using fewer vocals per song. The choruses are repeated more, there are fewer verses... that tends to drive me crazy, especially since there seems to be so little difference between each playthrough...
On the other hand there are some genres that when they mix just sound amazing.
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AppalachiaBlues
240 posts
Jan 28, 2019
11:53 PM
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Studies have suggested that our musical tastes are formed by what we listened to when we were aged 10 to 20. Even later in life, we find magic in those songs... and also new songs which borrow sounds from that era/genre.
That puts my "magic period" squarely into 1968-1979 rock. However, I enjoy music of all genres and eras.
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AppalachiaBlues
241 posts
Jan 29, 2019
12:14 AM
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rbeetsme -- The Stones discovered Sugar Blue busking in Paris during the mid or late 70s. Sugar played harp on Some Girls and Emotional Rescue, in the 1978-1979 period.
Brian Jones played harp on the early Stones recordings, throughout most of the 60s -stuff like Not Fade Away. Mick Jagger took over harp duties when Brian started to "fade away" (in his struggle with drugs) in the year or two before his death. Mick got pretty creative with harp parts in Exile on Main Street. There are some nice bits of stuff in there, it you can find it in the mix.
Last Edited by AppalachiaBlues on Jan 29, 2019 4:12 AM
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jbone
2825 posts
Jan 29, 2019
3:29 AM
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@AppalachiaBlues- In my case "discovering" the late night blues and R&B radio stations in the early 60's at age 6 or 7 imprinted me. It set me up to seek the blues element in everything I heard on the radio for years, and find very little until the Brit invasion.
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