andysheep8
76 posts
Sep 30, 2018
2:33 AM
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what would be a good effects pedal for getting a prog-rock or psychedelic kind of sound?
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nacoran
9976 posts
Sep 30, 2018
12:16 PM
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I haven't played with one, but a wah pedal might work well at the psychedelic end of that. Or a reverse echo, although that could take some practice... much easier to apply as an after effect.
That's a big swath of music. Are there any particular songs/bands you want to emulate?
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Gnarly
2556 posts
Sep 30, 2018
1:02 PM
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I would think Richard Hunter would be a good source for this kind of thing--
http://www.hunterharp.com/
He's definitely going psych these day!
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John M G
255 posts
Sep 30, 2018
1:50 PM
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Maybe an Electro Harmonix Pog 2 or a Sub n' Up. I played around with a Pog 2 for a short while. There were 8 sliders and 2 stomp pedals, just way to much learn for a pedal you may use once in a while. Bass players love them apparently and I passed mine on to one of my bass player friends.
I then heard a facebook solo by Ben Bouman where he was using a TC Electronics Sub N' Up. Here's a link to my facebook page and Bens solo. Might be what you're looking for. You can get downloads to program sounds into the pedal and they are less than half the price of a Pog 2
Try this link, I've just checked it and seems to work okay.
https://www.facebook.com/urs.wolf.9/videos/1690388470975602/UzpfSTEwMDAwMTQ5Njc4MDA4NjoxNzExNDQxODkyMjQ5MDIw/
Last Edited by John M G on Sep 30, 2018 1:52 PM
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TetonJohn
334 posts
Sep 30, 2018
2:56 PM
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Sometimes my band can get pretty "out there." I don't have a pedal for this -- I think it's about what notes/chords, where, when and how that can contribute to that. Just one example might be pulsing fat chords at varying rates. I know it would more useful top provide a sound example -- sorry! (And I'm not saying some pedal couldn't help some -- longer delay for example.)
Last Edited by TetonJohn on Sep 30, 2018 2:59 PM
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HarpNinja
4292 posts
Oct 01, 2018
7:41 AM
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Over the years, I've found playing with effects and a loud full band is tricky. Often times, effects don't cut through the same way as they do at home.
You are at the mercy of a sound man and the room on a lot of filter and modulation effects.
I tend to use more time based effects like delay and reverb, although occassionally use an octave down and envelope filter.
Some of the time based effects include octave delay, shimmer, and filtered delay.
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Andrew
1818 posts
Oct 01, 2018
11:15 AM
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A lot of pedals are multi-effect nowadays.
My bassist friend has a Zoom B1on.
I've ordered a Digitech RP55 for my electric violin.
I know someone else who uses a Boss ME80 on an electric violin that cost less than the pedal! I guess you'll need a transformer if you mic them.
Suck em and see (the cheaper ones, like the Zoom or the Digitech - that's what I'm doing)
Last Edited by Andrew on Oct 01, 2018 11:16 AM
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Gnarly
2557 posts
Oct 01, 2018
4:02 PM
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I have used a Kaoss Pad II for harp before, that's pretty wacky.
But mostly I don't have time to set stuff up for harp, I don't play enough to make it worthwhile, much easier to just use the vocal mike.
That, it should be obvious, is not the answer to the question asked.
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hvyj
3631 posts
Oct 01, 2018
8:37 PM
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Flanger. Specifically the TC Electronics Vortex Flanger. VERY Harmonica friendly and responds interactively with technique. Sits well in a live mix and can cut. What does it sound like? Well, depending on how you set the four knobs anywhere from mildly funkie to psychedelic. For me, the most must have pedal after a delay. But if the amp has Reverb I can live without delay. Great pedal!
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nowmon
189 posts
Oct 02, 2018
12:16 AM
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If you want to do some far out stuff,try a old TAPE ECHO.i HAVE BEEN USING A Watkins tape echo for 30 yrs, and they are fantastic,for slapback,echo,and many other space jam tones.....I have been using it for harp and guitar...
Last Edited by nowmon on Oct 02, 2018 12:19 AM
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Andrew
1819 posts
Oct 02, 2018
3:30 AM
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I'll second flanger. And maybe phasing.
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Martin
1504 posts
Oct 02, 2018
5:57 AM
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I´ll add a vote for the reverb side. Lots of it -- and delay. Sort of a sine qua non.
But still, what constitutes psychedelia in music remains elusive, although the National anthem of it all, "I had too much to dream last night" has this weird guitar sound that is unmistakeably "psychedelic".
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andysheep8
77 posts
Oct 02, 2018
8:02 AM
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Plenty of food for thought,people, thank you.
Was kind of falling into the trap of thinking that the pedal does all the work, but Tetonjohn pulled me up in time. Will be looking at a Digitech i think, it's lo tech (like me) and cheap (like me) and has a 30 day return period, so i can literally "suck and blow it and see"
Last Edited by andysheep8 on Oct 02, 2018 8:02 AM
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Andrew
1821 posts
Oct 02, 2018
5:02 PM
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From what I remember of prog rock, sound effects were never prevalent - it was usually multitracked, multi-instrumental virtuosity (sometimes faked in the studio).
In addition to the Digitech, Andy, the Zoom G1on is the guitar version of the bass B1on. They seem to have a lot more effects than the Digitech. I bought the Digitech because it was cheaper and there was a temporary supply problem with the G1on and also I didn't want too many effects on a violin - just the basics. It's the same with a keyboard - I only need 7 or 8 voices (big and small church organ, Hammond organ, grand piano, Fender Rhodes electric piano, harpsichord and that's about it, although a Mellotron synth would be nice); I don't need 300 mostly dubious voices!
Last Edited by Andrew on Oct 02, 2018 11:47 PM
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