HAHAHAHAHA!!!! That was freakin' awesome! I wanna party with those guys!!! Made my Friday afternoon. Meant to played LOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEY BARTENDER!!!!!!
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Ps: You guys nit-picking it apart, you crack me up, you really do. You sound like a music teacher wandering in to rockin' joint going...."Well, in the second bar the flatted third was a touch off". Hahahaha. Really man, lighten up, it'll do your soul some good.
Or, put another way, you're in a steamy juke joint, cold beer flowing, scantily clad women everywhere. The place is rockin, you can absolutely cut the electricity in the room with a knife. Houselights go down, Jason and the band rip into that version of the Bully. Everyone's going wild at the end, you turn to the guy next to you and say WHOA THAT WAS KILLER!!!!, and he says: "I am not a fan of the accompaniment played on harmonica, as over the V chord, harmonica bends past the note needed (the second time played), exposing weakness in technique."
So the question is, does he get a group administered atomic wedgie, or just locked in the men's room?
Last Edited by Honkin On Bobo on Oct 23, 2015 1:58 PM
Kudos to people who have stated different opinions tactfully. It's fine to not like something people, and we are going to have some disagreements because we all have different tastes. I detect a little acrimony slipping in as the thread goes on. Let's keep it civil please.
As for VPN issues, I can't find the link but there is a good video on YouTube on how to use a public DNS. Here are some text based instructions:
For the record, that's usually the first thing we tell you to try if you are having trouble (for more than a couple hours, sometimes the site does just crash) to access us, particularly if you are in Eastern Europe or China, where our server hosts have put some IP blocks in place because of spam. (Ironically, the fight against spam may do more damage to free speech in the 'free speech' countries than actual censorship).
don't count me in the 'rabid fan base that doesn't like reading anything but love for their hero' group. I enjoy and learn a lot from spirited discussion, (I'll be replicating JR's solos and patterns any day now ;) ) and I don't take it personally, even if I do sometimes think the people on the other side of the discussion are wankers! ---------- Lucky Lester
Last Edited by didjcripey on Oct 23, 2015 4:25 PM
Why not keep the discourse to the actual song/harmonica solo rather than commenting on the commenting on the commenting on the comments? ---------- The Iceman
So, I've been woodshedding this (no, really... amazing slow downer is a great thing) and it turns out that JR's 'patterns' are actually very melodic.
In fact, you might say that they are actually melodies just as much as they are patterns; its just that there's a lot of them and they are played at great velocity. I don't even think he repeats himself unless its to create a variation; (I haven't got far enough in to it to tell), and that there are more musical ideas and melodic lines in this solo than you can poke a stick at.
The 'wrong' note that has been discussed is so easy for even a mediocre player as myself to get that I find it hard to believe that he would not have gone back and re recorded it if he wasn't happy to have it there.
You can listen to it on Spotify, Arne. I think the song is cooking! I need to play this at our jam! It'll bring the house down (dancing). ---------- Pistolkatt - Pistolkatts youtube
Hell yes I'm a die hard Ricci fan! Folks it's not about what he plays and who else could play it...it's about HOW he plays it. Jason's "feel" and the emotion I hear in his playing is what turns me on. Stop listening, analyzing, and thinking.....just absorb it.
I like to compare Jason to other greats that were more about emotion in their playing...Stevie Ray Vaughan, Ray Charles, and Louis Armstrong.
If that thing he does with the splits doesn't put chill bumps on you then I'm sorry that you are missing a part. ---------- www.facebook.com/catfishfryeband
I'm a fan of that old Wurlitzer Electric Piano sound. Very smooth with soulful vocals.
A more restrained and musical Jason when I listen to his lines.
However, the tone he chooses feels, to me, out of context in this song. There are harmonicky "wah's" and a focus on old style "Filisko" blues sound - acoustic towards the treble side.
It is in direct contrast with the sound/vibe of the rest of the song as a whole.
Just my musical opinion. I listen both to solos and how they service the song in which they are contained.
---------- The Iceman
Last Edited by The Iceman on Oct 27, 2015 6:32 PM
Never heard this expression even though I have watched all of "Luther" and some of "Touch of Frost" (still have a hard time with David Jason not being "Del Boy")! ---------- The Iceman
Last Edited by The Iceman on Oct 29, 2015 9:34 AM
"So, I've been woodshedding this (no, really... amazing slow downer is a great thing) and it turns out that JR's 'patterns' are actually very melodic."
I agree 1,000%. Something overlooked in a lot of fast playing is that fact that the harp player can play very melodic lines and tag on varied embellishments. I talk about this a bit in some of my rock harmonica vids on YouTube. Jason has even commented that my description is accurate.
There are players who play a lot of notes very riff based and very linear. They are like power moves. Then there are patterns that move with more dynamics, rhythmic variation, and melody.
Granted, there is flash for flash's sake, but a lot of what guys like Ricci and Popper do is VERY melodic.
If you break down the song Runaround by Blues Traveler, for example, you can see the intro and outro are very melodic and original. In the solo section, there is definitely some pattern and repetitive playing (although, original too).
If you listen to 10 live versions of that song, there will be 10 different intros, solos, and outros. Same with any song from Jason. I guess my point is, if it were all just really fast patterns utilizing solely muscle memory, they'd all sound the same - song to song, solo to solo.
Thanks Iceman. I have seen that video before but haven't put a lot of time into it. Believe it or not, I am generally not a fan of speed playing. While I appreciate it when its done well, its not something that I really aspire to. Areas of my playing I prefer to work on are timing, groove, tone and musicality. Goldbrick's explanation of tall poppy syndrome is pretty right, but its also common term in Oz, as we usually hate tall poppies, or people who have got too big for their boots. The term originally came from ancient greece:
