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OT Spam Filter Greediness
OT Spam Filter Greediness
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Danny Starwars
256 posts
Jun 21, 2015
6:10 PM
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Many people seem to have had long posts devoured by the spam filer rejecting an entered code. I don't know how many know this, but from the page that says the post was rejected (showing a new post window that's now empty except for your sig, if you have one), if you click back on your browser, you see your post again, but just need to enter a freshly generated spam filter code.
Is this news to anyone? If not, I will delete it.
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Last Edited by Danny Starwars on Jun 21, 2015 6:13 PM
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STME58
1346 posts
Jun 21, 2015
10:53 PM
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This happens to me about 50% of the time. Sometimes the post does not come back so I have taken to placing the text in the copy buffer, or composing it in word, just in case.
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nacoran
8543 posts
Jun 21, 2015
11:59 PM
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That works about 90% of the time for me, but sometimes I get a message about something like, 'reconfirm to submit' or something, and then the message is truly gone. On longer posts I usually control c the post so I can paste it back in, first, so I don't have to retype it, and second, because the longer you have a post open the more likely the captcha will have changed by the time you go to type it in. (The server automatically chooses a new captcha after 15 minutes, but it doesn't refresh the page so you are still seeing the old one.)
Technically, that's the captcha system, not the spam filter, but from the user end they pretty similar. You can enter the captcha correctly and the spam filter will still decide to put you in the spam folder if it thinks your post looks like spam (a short message with a link, or some phrase that sounds like a sales come on). The good news about things that get caught in the spam filter instead of being rejected by the captcha is that they end up in a folder of lost posts and we put a check next to them the next day and they magically reappear. (Moderators also see them as grayed out text in threads and we can check a box to restore them there as well if we happen by.)
There are also some plugins you can get for your browser- I haven't used one in a while, that save everything you type in a box every few seconds. I had one a couple computers ago. At the time it slowed my computer down quite a bit, but newer computers should handle them better. Then you just hit a button and it pulls up what you typed. (Of course, you have to be careful with your privacy settings, particularly on shared computers with that. I can't imagine anything terribly racey on a harmonica forum but depending on where else you go you might accidentally share more with your computer mates than you intended! :)
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SuperBee
2708 posts
Jun 22, 2015
5:54 AM
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I haven't lost one that way for a long time. Probably posted a few that would have been better lost...
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kudzurunner
5547 posts
Jun 22, 2015
6:54 AM
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If it makes people feel any better, I have had a fair number of long posts erased, and I have had innocuous posts caught up in the spam filter.
A word to forum members: if you start a new thread with a long post, or if you spend a fair bit of time composing a long response, please copy your words before you enter the captcha code and hit "post message." For some reason, the forum mechanism seems highly inclined to insist that you've supplied the wrong captcha when more than a couple of minutes have gone by. Short posts aren't a problem, at least for me, but I've had my heart broken by too many "erased" long posts.
Now I routinely copy those long posts before I upload them--and when they're erased, I just paste them into a fresh "message" portal, supply the captcha, and upload. And there's almost never a problem that second time.
In other words, those of you who say "I am SURE I supplied the right capcha!" are probably right. The problem arises when you take the time to draft a long comment--a response or thread-starter. The forum code seems to time-out; it forgets you're there. Then it rejects CORRECT capcha codes, and it loses your magnum opus.
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shakeylee
306 posts
Jun 22, 2015
7:21 AM
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ahha!
i have taken to copying and pasting my posts.now i know why :)
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ridge
623 posts
Jun 22, 2015
8:07 AM
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Yes, I have been meaning to test it to confirm, but I believe this is a function of captcha code timeout. Maybe macwebsitebuilder tech can tell us how long the timeout value is set. I feel like it's somewhere between 10-15 minutes.
Be smart. Use protection. Copy your text before posting!
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nacoran
8546 posts
Jun 22, 2015
2:37 PM
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Ridge, according to support its 15 minutes. At one point it was 5 but we raised a ruckus and got them to extend it a bit.
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Nate
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kudzurunner
5548 posts
Jun 22, 2015
8:14 PM
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Aha! I knew it!
And I'm the guy who (supposedly) runs this place!
That is so pitiful.
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