joshnat
235 posts
Feb 22, 2015
8:53 AM
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I'm always blowing out the 5 draw, so I ordered some individual reeds from Hohner. My donor plates all had bad 5 draws!
The other thing that I've had trouble with is transplanting rivets from one reed to another. I use a Bill Romel tool to get the reeds/rivets out and back in again, but if the rivet comes off the reed, I have a helluva time getting it back on.
Some will say switch to nuts and screws, and I may have to do that. But is there a source for new rivets? Seems Hohner used to send them with individual reeds, but no longer. And they don't show up in the the webshop.
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Kingley
3846 posts
Feb 22, 2015
9:09 AM
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Some people make their own with copper wire. So you could always try that. It would seem though that most people just use screws.
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WinslowYerxa
802 posts
Feb 22, 2015
9:23 AM
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You may be able to get on the phone with the Hohner repair department and order rivets.
Although right now, what them getting ready to move to Nashville in the wake of the recent change in ownership, you might have a hard time getting in touch.
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Last Edited by WinslowYerxa on Feb 22, 2015 9:24 AM
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orphan
419 posts
Feb 22, 2015
9:56 AM
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When you order reeds from Hohner you have to ask them to send rivets (no charge for rivets). Used to be they just sent them. Last time I ordered reeds online and put in the message to include rivets. The reeds came with no rivets. I called, pointed out the order came with no rivets. Apologies were given and 3 days later the rivets came in the mail. So give them a call.
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joshnat
236 posts
Feb 23, 2015
5:48 AM
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Thanks all. I'll give Hohner a call and see what I can get.
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mlefree
253 posts
Feb 23, 2015
10:27 AM
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Winslow, I hadn't heard about this change of ownership and move. What's up with that?
Thanks,
Michelle
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MP
3283 posts
Feb 23, 2015
4:43 PM
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I asked Hohner to send me rivets and they sent them. They told me most people use screws so they don't automatically send rivet sticks like they used to unless specified in your reed order.
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I'm out of the Biz for a while till I get over my burnout. You can try HarveyHarp or arzajac, or just look the page nacoran put together under Forum Search.
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joshnat
237 posts
Feb 24, 2015
11:47 AM
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Spoke to Hohner and they're sending me some rivets. Thanks all!
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HarveyHarp
649 posts
Feb 24, 2015
2:58 PM
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Anyone care to post a video of an efficient method of replacing reeds with NEW Rivets. I can do it, sometimes, but it is not efficient. I keep threatening to make a tool to do it, but I never get around to doing it.
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HarveyHarp
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arzajac
1603 posts
Feb 24, 2015
4:46 PM
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Harvey - Making sure everything is perfectly straight makes things go smoothly. The old rivet has to come out straight, the hole has to be straight and the new rivet needs to go in straight. It can be more work if the incumbent rivet wasn't in straight....
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HarveyHarp
650 posts
Feb 24, 2015
9:32 PM
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Getting the rivet in straight is not a problem. But hammering it home, and having it look good, like the factory, and making sure the reed is flush to the plate, takes me more than just one operation.
I have an idea for a simple tool that rivet, align, and hold the reed down all at the same time. But, IMHO, the screw is so easy to do, and it has so many options, if done right. I am talking Hohner reeds. I understand that Seydel reeds have a head, and you just pound the back side to rivet. I think. Right Greg??
Sissy who used to be at Hohner had a video posted somewhere where she showed how to do it. It was pretty cumbersome if I remember correctly.
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HarveyHarp
Last Edited by HarveyHarp on Feb 24, 2015 9:34 PM
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GMaj7
625 posts
Feb 25, 2015
4:17 AM
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Harvey,
You are correct. It is easier on Seydel harps because they have stainless rivets that keep a better shape and best of all have a head on them like a nail.
The trick to this is to use my tool that Rockin Ron sells. Like the Seydel de-riveter, it has a depth gauge on it which allows you to partially punch out the rivet on the donor reed. With everything still in tact, you just move it over to the new plate.
Also, I use a dimpled nail punch as opposed to a flat one.
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Greg Jones
16:23 Custom Harmonicas
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GMaj7
626 posts
Feb 25, 2015
4:29 AM
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Any time I discuss this topic, I share my personal experience on this matter not for those posting, but those following.
In my experience, DIY reed replacement is NOT good deal. There are just too many guys out there that do it for a very reasonable (Cheap) price.
The hardest part is parts. There are techs out there that will fix an entire harp for less than the cost of individual reeds.
I charge more to sell someone an individual reed than I would for fixing the harp.
There is nothing overly difficult about the process but by the time you factor the time/money purchasing parts, ruining a few reeds, learning that your "donor reeds" are just as bad, posting questions about it on every internet forum, AND buying the tools, you could have sent a box full of harps to any number of guys and had your harps fixed and still have enough money left over to buy some new ones.
The exceptions to my view are the guys that live remote with less access to economical repair.
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Greg Jones
16:23 Custom Harmonicas
greg@1623customharmonicas.com
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Last Edited by GMaj7 on Feb 25, 2015 5:29 AM
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SuperBee
2415 posts
Feb 25, 2015
5:31 AM
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Yep, that's me Greg. I couldn't find anyone within cooee to fix mine at an economical price, so I became that person. Now it seems there are a few others. I'd love to have someone else fixing my harps at the rate I do it for others, but I'm still working off the price of my tools and parts and the investment of time and mistake based learning....and trying to give a little back to the Aussie harp community...and I'm still enjoying learning. Irony is, I haven't broken a reed on my own harps for a couple years now. It's not just about replacing reeds of course
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