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Suffering Heath
9 posts
Mar 17, 2014
4:25 AM
Hello good people!

I've been toying with an amp modeler, a la Richard Hunter's setup, but am missing my '65 Kalamazoo tone. The difficulty with my 'Zoo, of course, is that I play larger rooms and I need power/volume in the constant battle with guitarist and bassists.
Which, in your opinion, would give me more advantages:

A) Mic'ing the Kalamazoo with the Mic you Adam recommends (the Sennheiser E906), or some other mic (please let me know which you feel works best), or

B) Using the "Line Out" I had installed in the back of the 'zoo.


Is C), "both," a possibility?


The problems I've encountered with the 'zoo, of course, is VOLUME. Delicious tone, smallish output.


Thoughts? Differences?

Thanks so much, Gentlemen!

Heath

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rockmonkeyguitars
31 posts
Mar 17, 2014
6:08 AM
your speaker has a pretty significant effect on your tone. In the world of guitar and harmonica amps they tend to push out the highest treble and lowest bass. Using a line out will bypass this coloration and it may or may not sound good to your audience. What I recommend you do is hook up to your PA using the line out and see if you get any unpleasant noise from your pa speakers. If it sounds OK then there is no drawback to using a line out. If it sounds "wrong" through the PA then you need the speaker to colour your tone and therefore need to mic the amp.
SmokeJS
237 posts
Mar 17, 2014
6:29 AM
Can't think of a reason why C wouldn't be possible but hope to hear someone discuss why it might be a good choice.
Greg Heumann
2648 posts
Mar 17, 2014
7:36 AM
The ideal way to find out:

Do "C", then have a friend who knows how to play as well as you do stand up there and blow while you listen out front. If someone you trust runs the sound board, they can mix between both of these signals during performance.

The line out I put in a Kalamazoo is driven from the speaker circuit, and thanks to inductance, reflects the sound coming out of the speaker very, very closely. Mics are fine but add their own color, pick up state noise and generally need to be carefully placed for best results - yet inevitably they get bumped or kicked out of that position during a performance.

But at some point the limit will be your ability to hear yourself on stage. You'll need the amp up and aimed at your ear. Adding signal to the monitors is a recipe for feedback if the sound guy isn't paying attention THROUGHOUT THE SHOW.

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Last Edited by Greg Heumann on Mar 17, 2014 7:37 AM
boris_plotnikov
941 posts
Mar 17, 2014
9:29 AM
Greg Heumann
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I even often use DI-box after pedals but before amp and tell soundguy: "Please mic my amp and get this DI signal, amp is the main, but can be a bit muddy, DI is additional to sound clearer and prominent, but check phase!". And it usually works perfect!
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Last Edited by boris_plotnikov on Mar 17, 2014 9:30 AM
HawkeyeKane
2387 posts
Mar 17, 2014
1:25 PM
That's an interesting approach Boris. I may give that a try actually.
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