Diggsblues
1307 posts
Nov 17, 2013
11:01 AM
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You don't hear about this genre much anymore or sub-genre.
Some of my favorites. The Righteous Bros, The Rascals and my buds the Soul Survivors from Philly.
I played rotating sets with the Souls one summer on the Delaware River Charlie used say the 2016 looked like an
instematic camera LOL
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cyclodan
31 posts
Nov 17, 2013
12:04 PM
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Local Ann Arbor boys had a regional hit (on CKLW!) with this original while they were still in high school...better than being the varsity QB huh? (this one conjures some old memories of a certain long haired blond, "this was our song")
then there were a couple of other tunes that the High Numbers/Who and Young Rascals did BITD...
(edit)Alright why didn't those vids embed?
(edit again) Now I got it.
Last Edited by cyclodan on Nov 17, 2013 9:11 PM
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MP
2994 posts
Nov 17, 2013
12:20 PM
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Oddly enough, Darrel Hall is arguably the finest white Philly soul singer ever. possibly the best of any Philly singer of any color.
Check out Sara Smile. The phrasing and delivery are all and more than one could want in a soul vocalist.
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Last Edited by MP on Nov 17, 2013 12:22 PM
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cyclodan
32 posts
Nov 17, 2013
12:30 PM
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I have to agree with MP on Darryl Hall.
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MP
2996 posts
Nov 17, 2013
12:40 PM
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here here, cyclodan! Obviously a man of discerning tastes and highly developed critical thinking skills. :-)
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i still have a little Hohner stock for reed replacement in three common keys.
when these are gone i'm out of the biz.
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TheoBurke
507 posts
Nov 17, 2013
12:43 PM
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It's amazing that many of the best white interpreters of African American music traditions have voices that sound anything but black, ie, unauthentic by strict definition. I think that is best virtue of those vocalists--white boys inspired by black singers who refused to let the limitations of their natural tone and timbre stop them from creating a compelling, moving, original sound in the rhythm and blues tradition. Mick Jagger cannot sound like Muddy Waters or Wilson Pickett to save his life, but he cogently came up with his own nuances. The result is a canny synthesis of two cultures; through the blend, Jagger has a vocal approach that is distinct, original, vastly influential on rock singers to come. The same must be said of dozens of other white singers with limited range: singers like Mose Allison, Peter Wolfe of J Geils Band, Mitch Ryder did brilliant, credible work in the genre they loved.
There are also those who sound so black that it's almost unsettling. One of my favorites is Jerry LaCroix, co-lead singer in Edgar Winter's White Trash. He has the range, the nuances, the grit, the rasp, the texture of a combination of obvious influences, Otis Redding, Ray Charles, Wilson Pickett. One might say that he tries too hard to sound black, but what I hear is something exciting, powerful, expressive.
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GamblersHand
471 posts
Nov 17, 2013
1:04 PM
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Ted - that Jerry LaCroix track is great, must check more out.
Though not sure that I'd agree that Mick Jagger's style is wholly original - I hear a lot of Don Covay and Slim Harpo
For blue-eyed soul of course you can't forget Dan Penn
Last Edited by GamblersHand on Nov 17, 2013 1:30 PM
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Diggsblues
1309 posts
Nov 17, 2013
1:08 PM
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MP I think a lot of people from Philly would argue Daryl Hall is not the best Philly Soul Singer.
Richie and Charlie Ingui lead singers in the Soul Survivors are in the Elite TSOP, The Sound of Philadelphia part of the Gamble and Huff dynasty. Daryl Hall even covers Expressway to Your Heart.
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TheoBurke
508 posts
Nov 17, 2013
1:20 PM
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@GAMBLERSHAND: I don't think Jagger's style is wholly original either, and I note traces f Convoy as well. But Jagger sounds like no one else, really, and he has gone from being an imitator to innovator; his synthesis turned him from mimic to the one who was being imitated. Not wholly original, of course, but who is?
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groyster1
2467 posts
Nov 17, 2013
2:27 PM
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no mention of peter green....best blue eyed blues singer in tie with butterfield
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TheoBurke
509 posts
Nov 17, 2013
3:21 PM
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Here's Frankie Miller, from Scotland, one of the best blue eyed soul singers , UK division.
And we cannot fail to mention and highlight Tom Jones, who, in my opinion, the best white soul man in history, when he chooses to sing soul music.
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2chops
195 posts
Nov 17, 2013
3:31 PM
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First two names that come to my mind when I think of blue eyed soul is Hall & Oats and then the Righteous Bros.
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rbeetsme
1422 posts
Nov 17, 2013
3:33 PM
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Here's a local favorite and an old friend, Jennie DeVoe. This video is 5 years old but shows off her blues side.
Another nice effort, she talks a lot at the beginning so scroll ahead to about 3:00 mark, worth it.
Last Edited by rbeetsme on Nov 17, 2013 3:36 PM
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5F6H
1698 posts
Nov 18, 2013
5:21 AM
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I'd disagree slightly that you don't hear much about white soul singers these days: Joss Stone, Adele, Amy Winehouse, Gabriella Cilmi all popular and all show a distinct soul influence.
This forum will no doubt be more familiar with John Nemeth, Tad Robinson, Darrell Nulisch.
Pretty early on, soul (as far as the wider, listening world was concerned) encompassed a proportion of white artists like Mitch Ryder, Dusty Springfield & Timi Yuro for instance.
In the UK we have the outrageously talented Corinna Greyson...I hear a little nod to Barbara Lynn here...
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bloozefish
135 posts
Nov 18, 2013
10:33 AM
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Michael McDonald has some fine Soul chops.
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MP
2998 posts
Nov 18, 2013
10:42 AM
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Oh Yeah!!! Frankie Miller. Almost completely unknown in the US.
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i still have a little Hohner stock for reed replacement in three common keys.
when these are gone i'm out of the biz.
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TheoBurke
511 posts
Nov 18, 2013
12:57 PM
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Early hit for Detroit home boy Bob Seger
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Big regional hit for Seger back in the day. This man could shout that r and b.
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droffilcal
53 posts
Nov 18, 2013
1:06 PM
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I would nominate Paul Rogers from his Free days, especially live -- I would add that he is a much better soul singer when doing one of their original songs as opposed to when they are covering a classic tune like "Goin' Down Slow" or something like that.
Last Edited by droffilcal on Nov 18, 2013 1:09 PM
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wolfkristiansen
235 posts
Nov 18, 2013
10:09 PM
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Lonnie Mack, known for his guitar work ("Memphis", etc.) is a great, soulful singer. He's still around.
I just checked-- he's got brown eyes... also his singing is closer to blues than soul. But, by any measure, he's soulful, am I right?
Cheers,
wolf kristiansen
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wolfkristiansen
236 posts
Nov 18, 2013
10:14 PM
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5F6H mentioned Amy Winehouse. I remember thinking when I first heard her, "This woman sings black without being conscious of it."
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The Iceman
1278 posts
Nov 19, 2013
7:19 AM
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Back in the 60's, Dusty Springfield was considered one of the best at blue eyed soul..
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walterharp
1218 posts
Nov 19, 2013
12:58 PM
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I am also partial to Lowell George.. he described his style as white boy got the woo woo's at one point if i recall correctly
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5F6H
1699 posts
Nov 19, 2013
1:59 PM
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Life in the eighties was hard for a soul fan, these folks made life more bearable amid the electro pop & "whatever the hell it was" that filled the charts at the time...
Perhaps not "soul" but a soul influence no doubt...with a Woking accent? ;-)
Celtic soul?...
More recent blue eyed soul...with a modern r'n'b edge...
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Last Edited by 5F6H on Nov 19, 2013 2:15 PM
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Goldbrick
277 posts
Nov 19, 2013
2:36 PM
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I'm a south philly boy and these were 2 almost local bands
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5F6H
1700 posts
Nov 19, 2013
2:40 PM
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Ouch, forgot Duffy...she always brings to mind something of the great Little Esther to me on this one...
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Goldbrick
278 posts
Nov 19, 2013
3:04 PM
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How could we forget ?
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5F6H
1701 posts
Nov 19, 2013
3:27 PM
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@ Goldbrick - Nice! Not to lead the thread off track, but mention of Marriott will always steer soul based discussions to PP Arnold...& now that I've said her name, it'd be crime not to play this...;-)
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Last Edited by 5F6H on Nov 19, 2013 3:28 PM
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messy ventura
98 posts
Nov 19, 2013
7:35 PM
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ahh yes groyster. Hpw could early Peter Green slip my mind. One can hear much of Elmore James' vocal influence in Greenies singing.
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