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Aug 29, 2013
5:16 PM
[continued from reading and transcribing

this thread hopes to

encourage players in finding the key of an audio piece

encourage those who would transcribe a piece from audio

encourage those who have musical ideas for performance, riffs, phrases, particular harmonica things in writing them
down - for their own performance and their own band for example

to encourage the arranger, the composer, the riff maker, the idea finder, in writing down what they hear in their heads

We have been working on the following skills:

read and play note numbers onto a C harmonica

read and play note names onto a C harmonica

read and play music notation onto a C harmonica

In no. 11 i offered some intervals and tonics for you to

lots more audio things to come and we move on from
note numbers and note names to music notation.





Last Edited by joe on Sep 28, 2013 5:53 PM
99 posts
Oct 03, 2013
3:48 PM

no. 2

5-4 | 3 3 3 | 4 2 7, | 1 1 + | + - 1-2 |
| 3 3 3 | 4 2 3 | 4 + + | + - 3-4 |
| 5 3 5 | 5 4 3 | 1 1 + | + - 2 |
| 3 2 3 | 4 2 7, | 1 + + | + - ||

7, is a note 7 in the lower octave
+ is a held note
- is a rest

100 posts
Oct 04, 2013
4:34 PM

no. 3

The point of working with these note numbers [scale degrees]
is the sound of them, or really, the relative sound of them.

In the last tune, where is the tonic, note 1?
What key is the tune in?
Well, it does not really matter for writing down the tune.

What we need to decide upon is the tonic. Where is note 1?
We can decide that without knowing which actual note name
it is. Note 1, the tonic, is the note which the tune is
'leading' to, the note which makes the tune sound finished,
the note we would sing at the end of the tune.

The tonic is the first note of the scale of the piece.
Hum some songs to yourself. There is a note in the song
which sounds like the end of the tune [or the beginning too],
the tune 'wants' to finish there, it sounds like the
natural finishing note. This is the tonic.

It is also note 1 of the scale of the tune. Which scale?
It does not matter. We have note 1, so now we have all
the notes of the scale of the piece because they are all
relative to the note 1.

So now we can write down the note numbers of the tune,
by deciding on the note 1 and how each note relates,
fits in with, this note 1.

But what notes are we hearing? It does not matter.
But let's call the note 1, C. Now we are using the
C scale and we can write the tune down using C scale.
If we call the note 1, say, G, we can write the tune
down in G, using the G scale.

Now this will not worry us unless we have a very strong
sense of what the notes actual names are.

If we want to know the actual key of the tune we decide
on the tonic, as we have been doing, but now we need to
test this note against other notes.

At first, it might be best to use a guitar or keyboard.
Hear the tonic of the piece, find it on the guitar or
keyboard. We repeat this until we find the note. We get
better and faster at this with practice.

Now, we don't just 'know' the note name of a note that
we hear. Most of us need to relate that note to notes
on an instrument, a guitar, keyboard or harmonica,
for example. Other instruments are not so helpful
because many of them sound different notes to what the
player would call them, they are transposing instruments.

Anyway, having decided on the tonic of a tune we
find it on an instrument and now we have the key
of the tune.

7196 posts
Oct 04, 2013
5:29 PM
Joe, may I make a suggestion? I don't know if you've clicked on my 'Thread Organizer' link, but you might do something similar in your signature. Basically, you pick one of your threads to serve as a base page and bookmark it in your browser, and when you add a new thread with new info, you make sure to put a link to it in your master thread. Then, all anyone needs to do to find all your threads is click on your link. It's the closest thing we have around here to being able to make channels and it might make it easier for people to read your stuff sequentially, since the search isn't always helpful. :)

Thread Organizer (A list of all sorts of useful threads)
101 posts
Oct 04, 2013
6:15 PM
gday Nacoran

i hope you are bright-eyed and bushy-tailed ...

i have referenced my previous, connected thread to this
one, at the top of this thread

i have indeed used your Thread Organizer and would be
honored if you would point to my 2 threads from there

i have nothing really that i want to blow my own
trumpet about. i'm just hoping that some players have
found the posts useful.

i'm not planning to add anything further to this thread.



joe m.


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