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Autumn leaves - Low D in third
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Pistolcat
495 posts
Aug 20, 2013
12:50 PM
Slow Jazz on a Low tuned harp in third position... Overblows galore! Nerdy technique-wanking? Yes! But I hope you like it still.

I play on a Hohner Thunderbird LD harp. I regret to say that I'm aware that the OB:s (six hole only) are partly (ok, mainly) flat but I actually like the OBtimbre I was able to produce so I put it up here anyway... And yes playing on a regular D harp would have been easier but not as fun and I really love the sound the thunderbird make to this backing track, so...

I have seen/heard Christelle do autumn leaves in fourth on a G harp but one would still need OB:s for some of the melody notes...

Well, anyways, here it is:


Oh, comments, hints and critique is welcome as always!
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GMaj7
267 posts
Aug 20, 2013
3:49 PM
I like it..
Love to see folks step away from 12 bars and a head shake!
Good stuff.....
And the Low D is perfect..
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Pistolcat
497 posts
Aug 21, 2013
3:03 AM
Thanks Greg! It was fun to try the low D at something different than bye, bye birdish chugging stuff. Felt kind of sluggish in the response at points... :/
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Fuzzball
4 posts
Aug 24, 2013
9:07 AM
I like this one, great. I have a SP 20 low D and 6 is the only one I can get to over - blow on that one! It's kinda tricky to get the reed going but once it is it sounds good. I guess you have to kick start them on that one. I know what you mean about slow response, mainly when you change direction say on hole 2 for example. The first reed is still vibrating and it chokes the other one, but that makes it great for chugging because it gives that 'thunk' when the reed gets going. I want to do a train boogie with a low D and a standard D just for fun!
Rubes
742 posts
Aug 24, 2013
3:22 PM
Nice work Cat! Tho I reckon you need a smaller...............lampshade!
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Pistolcat
504 posts
Aug 25, 2013
4:28 AM
Thanks guys! Yeah, I gave that shade some headers didn't I? :D
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tf10music
172 posts
Aug 25, 2013
10:06 PM
Pretty. I like the soft touch you have when you hold your notes. Makes them seem tremulous and ornate. Really nice. I agree that you were a bit flat on those OBs at times, but it didn't detract much.

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Kingley
3056 posts
Aug 26, 2013
12:00 AM
Pistolcat - I like that a lot. Autumn Leaves is a beautiful song and you do a very nice job of it. It's so refreshing to hear music that isn't just a blues shuffle or swing improv played on the harp.
Pistolcat
508 posts
Aug 26, 2013
12:50 PM
Thank you both! I believe flat OBs are more than a bad habit as I find OBs (bent up) to/at pitch are a lot harder to sustain and get a nice, full sound out of.


... Or maybe it's just a bad habit and I'm too lazy to break it...
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The Iceman
1123 posts
Aug 26, 2013
2:08 PM
I love to see guys stepping outside of blues and tackling jazz tunes.

Great attempt.

Only comment is that, in your opening line, the highest note you hit is one half step below the actual note of the song.

Going for the OB that first time is brave. I like how you avoided it that second time by weaving a nice line around that one note, which suggested it without actually hitting it. (I do stuff like that, too, in trying to not let too many OB and their slightly odd sound ruin a nice line).
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Pistolcat
510 posts
Aug 27, 2013
10:08 AM
Thanks for the listening Iceman. The opening line goes, as far as I hear and have been able to get from sheets; E,F#,G,C. I think the overblow is somewhat sharper than a B. Not a semi tone flat. More like forty five cents flat :). And I certainly play the OB second time around, too. But I guess it is a lot closer to a B than C and that's prolly why you missed it...


... Or maybe you were being ironic?

Anyhoo, I need to work on my intonation, I guess. I wonder I anyone else have noticed that lower harps will get you even flatter 'natural' OBs?

Edit: I promise I won't bump this thread anymore. If someone wants to discuss OBs on lower vs higher harps I propose a start of a new thread.
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Last Edited by Pistolcat on Aug 27, 2013 10:43 AM
The Iceman
1126 posts
Aug 27, 2013
7:11 PM
You've written the opening line correctly, but you are actually playing E,F#,G,B.

I now hear the OB the second time around, but you don't linger on it as you did the first time (at around 58 seconds), so it doesn't stick out so much.
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nacoran
7067 posts
Aug 27, 2013
8:03 PM
I wish the backing track was a little more laid back. It seemed to be fighting your mellowness a little.

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