HawkeyeKane
1631 posts
May 01, 2013
9:18 AM
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Got a "buy it now" option too.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=230973299370
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Frank
2292 posts
May 01, 2013
9:57 AM
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Seems like a fair enough deal?
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HawkeyeKane
1632 posts
May 01, 2013
12:35 PM
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I'd say so.
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Rick Davis
1700 posts
May 01, 2013
12:48 PM
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$2100 for a used mid-size amp with no warranty. I'm sure it is worth it to some SJ fans who are attracted to the collector appeal.
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HawkeyeKane
1633 posts
May 01, 2013
12:52 PM
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Not too far off there, Rick. Yes...collector appeal. But moreso now that the amps aren't made anymore. I'd be willing to bet that Meteors will follow a similar trend in what they sell for from now on.
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Willspear
328 posts
May 01, 2013
6:28 PM
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Is scooter done too? Not much left for harp amp builders these days.
I think 2100 is pushing it for a cruncher not to knock it. Crunchers sound great. Hell I am completely enamored with my new fun sonny jr 1 and the 4x8 sonny cab loaded with 4 old c8rs
its basically an 8x8 super and masco love child that you can split and place to bathe a room in sound.
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LSC
406 posts
May 01, 2013
9:10 PM
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Just to be accurate the opening bid is $1895 and, if one reads the description, the amp is near as makes no difference new. As to warranty, the odds of a not even broken in, 6 month old, Sonny Jr breaking down is about the same as an asteroid strike on your living room. Even so, knowing Gary's obsession with his amps and devotion to those who buy them, even 2nd hand, I'm sure help would be just a phone call away.
Considering the amplifier under discussion is one of the best that was ever made or ever will be made, that it is virtually new, and that it's like will not be seen again, the asking price is fair and even the Buy It Now not so far off the mark. You'd be very hard pressed to find anything similar in quality or specification for less money.
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Rick Davis
1707 posts
May 01, 2013
9:36 PM
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I spoke to Gary about this a couple years ago and he was emphatic that his warranty extended only to original purchasers. He may make an exception for this amp, but that was his clear policy.
SJ amps do fail. Amps from all makers fail. That is why warranties are offered in the first place. It is no slam on SJ amps to admit that.
The price of this amp has nothing to do with Gary Onofrio. I'm sure if he still had this amp he'd be selling it for a lot less and including a warranty. It will be interesting to see if the seller gets his price.
Willspear, there still are some great harp amp makers out there: Harp Gear, WEZO Megatone, Mission, Vintage47, and quite a few others. Deak is making harp amps now. Lots of good choices.
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6SN7
308 posts
May 02, 2013
3:06 AM
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"Amps from all makers fail." That's an open ended statement that means nothing as you offer no fact, just an opinion.
I have owned SJ amps and have never had an issue with them. I know at least 10 others who own them and they have never had an issue with the amp. I know that isn't scientific study, but it is an indication that the SJ amps are well built and stand the test time.
For that matter, I know folks that own some of the other amps you mention and never heard of issues with their models. And then there are other harp amps you didn't mention (Fender comes to mind) that I have had and never had issues until they were 50 years old.
I think you put too much spotlight on the warranty issue.
As for the price, it is what it is and it will sell for what it sells for.
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Rick Davis
1709 posts
May 02, 2013
7:07 AM
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6SN7, amps from all makers fail. Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable, but it is a fact. That is why they offer warranties. We buy used amps all the time knowing we can usually fix whatever may be wrong, but we pay a premium for new amps because they are guaranteed for a period of time. That is what distinguishes new from used.
$2100 seems a bit steep for a used Cruncher but I am SURE there are SJ fans out there who will pay it.
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HawkeyeKane
1635 posts
May 02, 2013
7:45 AM
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"I know that isn't scientific study, but it is an indication that the SJ amps are well built and stand the test time."
Combo amps naturally have a higher risk of something going wrong than amp heads do. Primarily due to the speakers' resonance throughout the cabinets causing components to get shaken loose. It's for this factor that a lot of guitarists (my own band's guitarist included among them) refuse to play combo tube amps, and strictly use head/cab amps.
I think that one contributing factor to SJ's reputation for durability, at least on the early SJ1 and SJ2, was that a lot of the cabinets were built and signed by the late great Sam Hutton. Let's face it, Hutton was pretty much the quintessential cabinet builder. If anyone could design a cabinet that holds up over time, and minimize the internal resonance factor, it'd be SH.
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6SN7
309 posts
May 02, 2013
7:59 AM
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"Amps from all all makers fail."
Oh boy, that is as sweeping a statement as we are all going to die someday.
Rick, I have given you my experiences with amps and their failure rates. As I said, it is not a scientific study but it based on fact.
You make the statement, that "we buy used amps all the time knowing we can usually fix whatever might be wrong..." Sure that's correct when you are talking about old Gibsons, Premiers, etc that are very old (40 years plus) but an amp that is only a couple years old? C'mon, lets be realistic here. That amp on ebay has more of a chance of being damaged because of shipping it to someone rather than having a current issue.
I can say I pay a premium for new amps not for the warranty but because they work. I believe most people feel the same way. I buy new amps so I don't have the issues when you buy old ratty PA's or amps that have the potential for delivering big tone. I have done the old amp route and have in most all cases paid as much in repair/replacement as I did buying the amp. I use my amps to play out and I hate the idea of buying a cool little Premier that sounds awesome but is useless for playing a gig and it sits in my basement. But thats me, I'm not a collector.
As for the steep price, as I said, it is what is.
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Rick Davis
1710 posts
May 02, 2013
8:06 AM
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"It is what it is." LOL. Are you going to bid?
BTW, you might want to talk with Gary Onofrio about your contempt for amps in the basement. He had TONS of amps in his basement.
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LSC
407 posts
May 02, 2013
8:50 AM
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"I spoke to Gary about this a couple years ago and he was emphatic that his warranty extended only to original purchasers. He may make an exception for this amp, but that was his clear policy."
If one defines a warranty as an airtight guarantee then you may well be correct. However, in my conversations with Gary, and I believe I also read it on his website or somewhere, he stated that he would offer whatever aid he could to 2nd hand buyers of his products because he appreciated that they thought enough of them to spend their hard earned cash on something with his name on it. That is a view which would come as no surprise to anyone that knew Garys dedication to his products and to those that buy and use them.
"The price of this amp has nothing to do with Gary Onofrio."
Who said it did?
"Amps from all makers fail."
Can you site even one instance of a failure of a Super Cruncher?
"we pay a premium for new amps because they are guaranteed for a period of time. That is what distinguishes new from used. "
Some may buy a new amp over a used one for the sole reason of a warranty but I suspect the percentage is very small indeed. I have hardly ever bought new gear because I don't want to eat the depreciation. However, I bought both the Super Cruncher and the Avenger new because it was too damn hard to find a used one. I never even thought about the warranty. Most warranties aren't worth the paper they're written on anyway. If for no other reason than the shipping costs back to the manufacturer and return.
To say that a warranty is what separates new from used is an over generalization to say the least. Some like new just because it is new. No one else ever owned it. It will be pristine out of the box with no blemishes. Some buy new because they can order precisely what they want. Some buy new because it is the only thing available. Some buy new because of an assumed greater reliability. If an amp breaks down on a gig there isn't a warranty in the world that is going to bail you out in that moment.
Although it is obviously a matter of personal choice and taste, I believe Sonny Jr are one of the finest harp amps ever made, if not the finest. More importantly, I literally never in my life met anyone so dedicated to customer service than Gary Onofrio. So much so that he has done things for customers that were to his own detriment. Some even took advantage of his dedication.
Any item is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If I had the money I would buy this Super Cruncher for two grand. Certainly $1900, if there were no other bidders. It's worth every penny. But that is just my opinion to which I'm sure others would disagree. But then I own a Sonny Jr and they probably don't.
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Rick Davis
1713 posts
May 02, 2013
9:07 AM
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From the www.sonnnyjr.com website (now defunct)
"Please note that I offer a two-year, non-transferable warranty ONLY to the original purchaser of the amp."
(emphasis in the original.)
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tmf714
1725 posts
May 02, 2013
9:17 AM
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Sonny continues to stand behind his product,regardless of the fact that the owner may not have purchased from him.
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Rick Davis
1714 posts
May 02, 2013
9:19 AM
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tmf, that may well be true, but why did he have the statement on his website?
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Tuckster
1277 posts
May 02, 2013
9:23 AM
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I own an SJ1 and it's built like a tank. That being said,I wouldn't spend that much on a Cruncher just because it's out of production. Of course,collecters will. There are a lot of cheaper choices for harp players.
I know a famous harp player who turned down lots of amp endorsements. He finally found a famous harp amp that he did endorse. Guess what? That amp crapped out right before the gig. Was it poor build quality? Nope. There's a thing called infant mortality. Some components, for no good reason, die an early death.If it doesn't break in the first 3 months,chances are good it will last for many years.
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Kingley
2582 posts
May 02, 2013
9:30 AM
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Rick is of course perfectly right when he says that "Amps from all makers fail." Anyone who thinks otherwise is plainly a fool. Just because an amp hasn't failed yet, doesn't mean it won't. That is not a slur on ANY amp manufacturer, it's just a simple fact of life.
As to whether anyone will pay the asking price for that particular Sonny Jr amp on eBay and whether or not it's worth it is a different question. Would I pay that much money for that amp? No I wouldn't, but then again I wouldn't pay that for ANY amp.
Will someone else think it's a good deal and buy it? Probably. At the end of the day it's just another amp, it ain't some magical mystical piece of kit that will turn it's owner into the next William Clarke. So there really ain't no point in anyone getting all hot under the collar over what people think about it.
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Greg Heumann
2124 posts
May 02, 2013
9:31 AM
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Have to agree with Rick - any amp CAN fail. However I also agree, having owned 3 of them, that SJ's amps are among the best built out there. One look under the covers of these amps and you will see that a great deal of care was taken during assembly. And no printed circuit boards to crack and fail. My Avenger has hundreds if not thousands of hours on it. It rides around in the trunk of my car nearly every day. That's a lot of vibration and shock. No trouble, nor have I had any with the Super Cruncher or with the 410 I used to own and wish I still did.
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Kingley
2583 posts
May 02, 2013
9:34 AM
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" No trouble, nor have I had any with the Super Cruncher or with the 410 I used to own and wish I still did."
On the bright side, a t least that 410 went to a very good home though Greg and I'm sure Joe would no doubt lend it you anytime you wanted.
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CarlA
328 posts
May 02, 2013
9:57 AM
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I have a $30 Radio Shack amplifier I bought 15 years ago. It's been dropped(several times), involved in multiple power outages, kicked, thrown, vomited on(those pesky kids-lol), used as a doorstop, and was left for several months in my car trunk in the Florida summers(>150 degrees F). It still works and sounds like it did when I first bought it.
Should I have paid>$2,000 for it???????
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6SN7
310 posts
May 02, 2013
12:10 PM
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@ Rick: "All amps fail." No Rick, it doesn't make me "uncomfortable" , no more than I have "comtempt" for amps in the basement.
I am actually very comfortable with the fact amps will eventually fail, I am just not as hung up as you about it. As for amps in the basement, I just have no use for them, just saying.
And no, I am not bidding on the amp, I don't need it.
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Rick Davis
1715 posts
May 02, 2013
12:50 PM
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6SN7, if you were an amp maker you would be very hung up on it. Warranties are important, and Gary made the decision to extend his warranties for two years to the original purchaser. That was prominently noted on his website.
Amp makers have different warranties. Megatone Amps have a 3 year warranty. Mission Amps warranties their harp amps for 3 years fully transferable. Fender and VHT have a 5 year warranty on amps, and Fender's is transferable. All these warranties are limited. Many people would say a longer warranty reflects confidence in the product.
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6SN7
311 posts
May 02, 2013
1:20 PM
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Rick, Maybe I would, but I am not mfger, so its not worth going there. I understand what you are saying, but it still doesn't make me uncomfortable.
Let me tell you what does make me uncomfortable. Seeing these fabulous antique tone monsters on ebay that look all shiny and groovy and then when you get them, they need a new speaker and a proper three prong plug. These are usually a given when one buys a 50 year old amp. Then there is a bunch of other issues that plague the amp. Now you probably don't have that issue as you are personal friends with an excellent tech and he lives close to you, so I dig you would have no worries. I don't have that as an option. You right, there are lots of good mfgers to choose out there, so I will go that route. I have had my fill of that.
But I think it is important to note as Greg has, I have owned SJ's for over 20 years and have never had an issue with them at all and they have been road worthy. I am not one of those "SJ forever cats" I have own plenty of others and my next amp will not be one and I am not hung up on that at all. I am just stating a fact.
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tmf714
1727 posts
May 02, 2013
1:25 PM
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Great post from Bill Hines via harp-l 2006.
I took delivery yesterday of a new (used but new to me!) Sonny Jr. SJ1A
amp. This is one the first series of Sonny Jr. amps, actually #80 I
believe out of production. I wanted a quality amp, something built for
harp because my too-little available time is best spent learning to play
rather than becoming an amp tech to try to learn how to run some
complicated electronic gizmo or do the mods to a 'guitar' amp.
Ability-wise, I tend to feel I'm not deserving of something like this,
but then I want to learn on something good, to grow into something,
rather than to have to keep upgrading my stuff as my abilities progress,
buying and selling, what a hassle. I don't want to be constantly saying
"do I really suck this bad or is it the crappy or too-complex
equipment?". I don't need the thunder of something like the Sonny Jr.
410. This is about 18 watts, but it's 18 *usable* watts, unlike some
amps that you can't turn up past 2-3 due to feedback. This is 18 highly
tuned for harp watts of pure harp-tuned power and thick Chess sound. So
when I saw one of these on ebay recently, I got interested since it was
sitting at $800 for some time. Then, when it shot up to and sold for
over $1500 before the auction ended, I was disappointed.
Then, I heard about another guy selling one so he could get the 410. Now
I was nervous because this wasn't on ebay so I didn't have the
protection. It was also 3,000 miles away so I couldn't see it or play
through it. I'm too skittish to go for a deal like that. But then Gary
(aka Sonny Jr) stepped in. He vouched personally for the guy who owned
the amp, which made me feel better. Then he did much more. He offered to
have the amp shipped to him, where he had his tech go over it stem to
stern and verify to me that it was in working order. They also did some
mods to bring it up to date on a few things. And threw in a one-year
warranty. Seemed like the deal was done, but then a serious last-minute
miscommunication between the buyer and I on shipping caused a
mini-disaster and some hard feelings. Gary stepped in again and resolved
the issue between us like a true diplomat. Over this month or two
process, he was there through dozens of emails to me, explaining the
nuances of the amp, how to use different tubes, how to line-out, etc. I
won't say what he charged me here for all of his work, but I was pretty
shocked. It was a steal, and I like a bargain and I'm as cheap as the
next guy, but I'm actually paying him *more* than he asked for his
services and efforts to make this happen even though this is a bit of a
rough patch for me lately. My conscience just won't allow me not to.
So back to the amp. I unpacked it this morning (was exhausted last night
from cross-country travel for work and it was 1am, didn't want to risk
messing something up by playing with it then!). It is truly a thing of
beauty and packed with loving care by Gary and his team. I can't say how
much this amp is a work of art, it's just amazing to look at every
detail, hand soldering with precision, and DEAD MINT. Signed by Sonny Jr
and also the late Sam Hutton, who made the cabinet (and also built the
original Fenders in the 50's and 60's). I was given a huge array of
tubes, spares and optional tubes, and a great cover. This is not just a
musical appliance - it is truly a work of art. Now, I have to finish
this note and my other stupid "real" work before I have to leave for the
day. I hope to get the tubes in and have it all set up to spend some
time playing tomorrow, and maybe bring it out tomorrow night and have
our local harp gunslinger and maestro Mike Easton give it a run. I'll
post later on my opinions after playing it a bit.
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tmf714
1728 posts
May 02, 2013
1:26 PM
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So what I'm saying, is that there's always that choice between all of
the options we have, that are talked about out here on harp-l. Some guys
are electronics nuts, gadget freaks, and promote those devices, etc.
What I'm saying is that if you want a true work of art built from top to
bottom with loving care, to have the best made and best damn sounding
amp for chicago blues, and a real HUMAN you can ask questions or get
support from, then consider the boutique route. Of course I recommend
Sonny Jr., in the course of my life I always seem to seek out people who
work on my cars, my house, etc that are *craftsmen* and I pay more but
always get excellent results, I look hard for these people, for example
the guy who will come over and not only give me an estimate on my new
deck or new transmission but exude *passion* when he is talking to me,
then I know I have the guy I want. And through almost 50 years of that
and dealing with some master craftsmen, *NOBODY* comes even close to the
passion and time that Gary put in with me through this process. He drove
the amp back and forth to his tech, an hour each way. Told UPS to go
screw off when they tried to gouge him like they do so many people with
their packing materials and shipping. Yeah, he's cantankerous and
tempermental as you can tell from his posts (a lot more sedate now
though, than he used to be!). Most geniuses are. He doesn't suffer fools
or put up with any bull - he will call you right out if you go there
with him. He is truly a legendary master living in our time. Why should
Gary have cared in my transaction? This was a transaction between
someone buying and selling a used amp, no profit motivation for him. He
cared because it involved one of his "kids", one of his works of art and
he wanted it taken care of.
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LSC
408 posts
May 02, 2013
1:36 PM
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@tmf714- Great personal story and makes my point several times over. What you relate sound exactly like the man I know and I'll take a mans actions over a lousy piece of paper any day. If that is being a fool well I sure wouldn't want to be one of you smart fellas.
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Rick Davis
1716 posts
May 02, 2013
1:41 PM
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Gary told me the same thing on the phone, and he was emphatic about it. Maybe some customers got special treatment, though...
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rbeetsme
1214 posts
May 02, 2013
4:09 PM
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What's with all the Gary Bashing?!!! The Sonny Jr amps are built like no other! There is nothing that even comes close. Collector appeal? Are you kidding? Sounds like sour grapes to me. A lot of guys playing them because they just sound right and never of heard of one to fail. And yes, I had one too, sold it because it's a lot of amp for a guy who rarely plays out, and never anywhere big, but I wouldn't hesistate to buy another.
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LSC
409 posts
May 02, 2013
4:16 PM
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All of Garys customers get special treatment.
I would submit that the warranty mentioned on the site is a guarantee to a new customer. He is under no obligation to help 2nd hand buyers which is not to say he wouldn't or hasn't. He would just not be under any legal obligation to do so.
Rick, if you are saying that Gary told you in no uncertain terms that he would not help a second hand buyer under any circumstance that flies in the face of evidence from those who he has in fact helped and what he said directly to me. Again, there is what he has put on his website to protect himself and what he actually practices on a case by case basis.
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HawkeyeKane
1638 posts
May 02, 2013
4:24 PM
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I agree with rbeetsme. I really didn't start this thread to give birth to a SJ-bashing diatribe about warranties and such. SJ's are undeniably some of the best harp amps ever made, and now they're on their way to becoming rarities. That's why I posted it. So someone who might be wanting a Cruncher got a headsup that one was available, and it had an alledged claim of being THE LAST Cruncher built. If I had the cash right now, I'd be jumping on it like a monkey on a cupcake, regardless of whether I got the warranty or not. I really don't see the point in bickering about the warranty any further.
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tmf714
1729 posts
May 02, 2013
4:31 PM
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Check this out from the Mission amp website-
"Harasing us won't make the amp build any faster and doing so will result in a deposit refund and loss of place holding..."
That's a real turn off for a potential customer-there are better choices grammticaly -and at least spell harassing correctly-
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Rick Davis
1718 posts
May 02, 2013
4:49 PM
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Rick Beets, there is no Gary bashing. Read the tread. It started out as a simple comment about a used SJ amp and the SJ fans took offense somehow. It is amusing. Happens every time. They seem awfully defensive.
LSC, Gary told me he did not offer a longer transferable warranty because he thought it would give a prospective buyer incentive to buy used instead of new. That makes sense to me. That is a rational business strategy.
Gary's website statement was unambiguous and very clear about the warranty. Are you saying he was being untruthful? I don't think so.
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Rick Davis
1719 posts
May 02, 2013
5:00 PM
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Tim, don't go all wobbly over a little debate. I ask you to point out where I have "bashed" Gary Onofrio. Anybody?
I seem to have aroused the SJ fans by not being sufficiently glowing in my remarks about the SJ amps. Hey, they were good amps. But is is kind of crazy to claim they never break or to make counter-factual claims about the warranty.
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LSC
410 posts
May 02, 2013
5:37 PM
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Gary's website statement was unambiguous and very clear about the warranty."
Yes, regarding a legally enforceable GUARANTEE on a new amp. But since he is the one making the guarantee he is the one that can make exceptions as he sees fit and has done so more than once in the past. The point of this part of the discussion was the danger, if any, of buying a very lightly used, 6 month old Cruncher. My view, which is shared by others with direct experience, is that danger is virtually non-existent.
"Are you saying he was being untruthful? I don't think so."
I'm sorry Rick but that comment is a bit asinine. As is your condescending comment about not being glowing enough in your comments about Sonny Jr amps. I've read your blog and other posts here and elsewhere. A lot more I'd like to say but I'll walk away from this one now. Suffice to say I think you and I both know where the truth lies. I'll leave to others to determine that on their own.
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Greg Heumann
2125 posts
May 02, 2013
5:50 PM
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Please.... make it stop......
You guys are arguing over nothing. The OP simply performed a public service by letting us know this amp is available. It is worth exactly the price it sells for. I think there is genuine agreement that a) Sonny Jr made some great amps; b) they are of the highest quality and c) the risk of buying one is low. After that, they're just amps and any good amp tech can work on them anyway.
Let it go. Please.
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Tweedaddict
19 posts
May 02, 2013
5:58 PM
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+1 Greg
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Rick Davis
1720 posts
May 02, 2013
6:05 PM
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LSC, it is always nice to meet one of my blog readers!
Gary and I buried the hatchet about three years ago and have been on reasonably good terms, although I have not talked to him in over a year. I don't have any ill will toward him. I hope he is well.
A few of his more cultish fans have tried to keep the feud alive by exaggerating every comment I make about his amps. I don't share the over-the-top enthusiasm. ("They Never Break!") Somehow they turn it into a blood libel. It is asinine.
Amp tone is very subjective, and some players will have opinions that differ from yours. They may even think your favorite amp is junk. Get over it. It ain't the end of the world if somebody thinks you are wrong.
And that will do it for me as well. Thanks for the fun debate.
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bluemoose
864 posts
May 03, 2013
2:14 PM
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Question? If anyone got the super cruncher upgrade "kit" did you ever get all 6 pages of the conversion PDF? All I have is step 4 page 6.
Are there any Cruncher schematics out there?
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bluemoose
865 posts
May 03, 2013
2:38 PM
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Hey tmf714! If you could drop me a copy at my user name email I would be forever in your debt. Well...maybe not forever. But in high appreciation!
(Finally gonna get around to upgrade install. Too many jams where I can't hear my little Electro amp. Time to unleash the beast.)
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tmf714
1737 posts
May 03, 2013
3:27 PM
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Done-call my cell I provided in the e-mail if you have any questions-good luck!!!
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