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IS this EXCEPTIONAL or "even better"
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Frank
1768 posts
Jan 02, 2013
8:28 AM
Littoral
698 posts
Jan 02, 2013
8:32 AM
Ok, I'll participate. Putting stuff out here more often gets the Simon treatment so stay strong.
Given the prompt: IS this EXCEPTIONAL or "even better" I will call it exceptional. That term gives enough grey area to whatever criteria there actually is to offer my own take.
It was interesting technique(s) and a creative approach. The actual tune was somewhere there and a bit of a distraction -kind "oh, that's what this is" for me. The articulation of notes and chords really was good -OB's at pure pitch is no small feat.
Summary: It sounded like an excersize but I'd vote for you to come back next week.
Frank
1770 posts
Jan 02, 2013
9:06 AM
I know I'm splittin hairs here Littoral...but "exceptional" is actually better then "even better"..Please don't ask me to explain - but, you probably meant to say "even better"...Mind you, it's all rather confusing, though your critique of the fellows tune is even better then my less then exceptional explanation of what is more or less the same thing :)
Greg Heumann
1918 posts
Jan 02, 2013
9:11 AM
I dunno - but I LOVE that "drone + melody" stuff. It take a tongue with more talent than mine. Another player who can do AMAZING things like that is James Conway.
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nacoran
6348 posts
Jan 02, 2013
1:08 PM
I play a kiss pop like that on one song. When I recorded it it looked really strange in Audacity. Usually a wave line shows up as a shape both above and below the center, and the two shapes usually look kind of similar. On a strong kiss pop, the shape lifts up and completely and there is actually not just blank space below the line, but blank space above the line below the wave shape. I don't know if it's a digital artifact. I asked on the Audacity forum. One person replied that it looked like I was sucking the element out of the mic. I don't like kiss pops on most harps, but they sound pretty cool on lower tuned harps. They sound downright awesome on a LLF.

I've intended, for some time, to try to really figure out playing a drone line. I do it a little bit on a couple really simple pieces. I want to try playing rounds all by myself. I thought I'd start with something simple like 'Row Row Row Your Boat' but even that's proved difficult. The hardest part with playing two things at once isn't getting the right holes, it's separating the two parts rhythmically. I think if I were to sit down and tab out what I should be playing I could do a round that was straight forward rhythmically (assuming the blows and draws lined up, I don't even want to think about trying to play a blow and a draw note at the same time!)

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JInx
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Jan 02, 2013
1:12 PM

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robbert
185 posts
Jan 02, 2013
3:36 PM
Very Levyesque, and very good.
tmf714
1415 posts
Jan 02, 2013
3:54 PM
It is "off" in quite a few spots-I don't think he has a full grasp of the tune-
Frank
1773 posts
Jan 02, 2013
5:35 PM
I'll dare pronounce him – the second coming of the 2 brained maestro...
Kingley
2102 posts
Jan 02, 2013
10:06 PM
There's some very hard techniques being used in that video. In this video though tmf714 does makes some valid comments about it being "off" in certain places. If you look at this guys YouTube channel though it's seems that he's most likely a student of Howard Levy's. He has some serious skills and plays really nice music. Some of the videos of the Bach he has posted are beautiful and sound as if they could have been written purposely for harmonica, as they suit the instrument so well. He can also play very fast and incorporates overblows into his playing as well as anyone except maybe the the very best of the overblow players. Here's one of the Bach numbers.

Last Edited by on Jan 02, 2013 10:08 PM
Lyle
3 posts
Jan 02, 2013
11:53 PM
Frank,

It's not as exceptional as this...

Miles Dewar
1432 posts
Jan 03, 2013
1:28 AM
Technical ability aside, it sounds like something a hobo would play. I can't pin that song but I know I've heard it somewhere, anyone have the name?

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Miles Dewar
1433 posts
Jan 03, 2013
1:33 AM

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Miles Dewar
1434 posts
Jan 03, 2013
1:33 AM
Frank
1778 posts
Jan 03, 2013
5:37 AM
Kingley
2103 posts
Jan 03, 2013
9:11 AM
Miles -The song in the first video is "Auld Lang Syne". Which is of course the song most associated with New Year.

This guy is a student of Howard's. This clip is one of his submission videos to Howard. Ok, so it has some mistakes here and there, but I'd bet that there ain't many guys on this forum (if any) who could play this Bach composition that well, let alone perfectly. I know for a fact that I couldn't.

Miles Dewar
1435 posts
Jan 03, 2013
9:33 AM
WOWZERS!!!!! *Foot-in-mouth*
Frank
1782 posts
Jan 03, 2013
9:34 AM
The fine fellow is a gentleman,a scholar and a prodigy :)
tmf714
1417 posts
Jan 03, 2013
12:23 PM
tmf714
1418 posts
Jan 03, 2013
12:34 PM
The Man-


Kingley
2105 posts
Jan 03, 2013
12:37 PM
tmf714 - I think you're being a little harsh on the guy. Yes I know it has mistakes. He is a student and it's a work in progress. The point is though he's doing lot's of things right on that harmonica. His playing and techniques will improve over time. He has a very good solid base on which to build. I believe he deserves credit for what he has achieved so far. Could you play that Bach piece better than he does? I know I couldn't. If you or any other member of this forum that is not a pro player can beat it, then I'd like to hear it.

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Todd Parrott
1079 posts
Jan 03, 2013
12:58 PM
I'm not so sure if tmf714 is intending to be harsh, but I see where he's coming from. I think he's pointing out that there's something to be said for playing clean and precise. Buddy Greene is also one of my heroes, and is one of the cleanest, most precise players I know.

As for the young man in these videos, I do think he is on his way to playing some great things. There are some rough spots, but he is tackling some tough pieces to play.
Kingley
2106 posts
Jan 03, 2013
12:59 PM
I agree Todd. There is a lot to be said for precision playing. Maybe I took tmf714's comment the wrong way. If so I apologise unreservedly.

I agree 100% with the second paragraph of your comment. I will be keeping an eye out for more from this young man.
timeistight
1016 posts
Jan 03, 2013
1:13 PM
People post absolute wankery here and get nothing but praise and encouragement, yet this guy, who's attempting something really difficult, gets beaten up. Strange.
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Todd Parrott
1080 posts
Jan 03, 2013
1:29 PM
No worries on my part, Kingley. I think some folks just call the things they way they see it, and I can appreciate that. When you put material on YouTube, you have to be prepared for comments and critique. And I think it is important to note, as tmf714 stated earlier, that these appear to be practice videos to send to Howard.

One thing that I have noticed about tmf714 is that when he critiques something, he usually follows up by posting what he believes is a better example, to backup his viewpoint. I can appreciate that as well.

It will definitely be interesting to follow this guy's progress.

Peace.
Frank
1787 posts
Jan 03, 2013
3:51 PM
I believe that his practice is making him perfect :)
timeistight
1022 posts
Jan 04, 2013
1:43 PM
Time machine.
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tmf714
1421 posts
Jan 04, 2013
2:43 PM
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