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Reeds Break. - Ruminating on the Topic.
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MP
2620 posts
Dec 28, 2012
12:32 PM
Was just at Joe Spiers web site and he explains why reeds break and which are the most common. (4 draw in his experience, and I concur, along with 5 draw) check out his take on the subject.

The four draw on a C harp is a D reed and there is only one compatible D reed on other key Hohners- the # 2 draw on a high G, or (of course) another C four draw. i was out of those long ago. no matter- i'm always tuning up C#s etc. or simply cutting reeds to fit.
cutting reeds isn't as hard as it looks. just a bit tedious when you aren't used to it. i like cutting to fit because i can cut the reed a bit long so it just clears the end of the slot. no burnishing needed.

i would say i don't kill reeds, and i don't on diatonics- BUT.. i just killed a 5 draw on my 64 Chromatic. never killed a Chro reed in 40 years. oh well, first time for everything.

i am confident that the most common problems that arise w/ any harp are reed related. everything else takes a back seat. everything.

reeds fracture near thier zero point, they go out of alignment, get burred, lose their gap and profile, get obsructed by lint n stuff, or just get old and lifeless.

unless you back over your harp with your car, your harp can be maintained to last indefinitely. i play at least three harps at gigs that are 50-90+ years old. they work great! my D mouse ear MB OBs like a champ.

so here is my reed replacement 101 video. the Hohner 64 chromatic in the theme music that i'm playing is the chro i killed the 5 draw on. i'm glad a friend loaned me his 16 hole Chromonika III as back-up that night.

hope this helps. one day i'll do a vid and divulge the secret to setting reeds ala Filisko but i'm sworn to secrecy.




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Last Edited by on Dec 28, 2012 12:33 PM
orphan
193 posts
Dec 28, 2012
1:31 PM
Nice work MP. Thank you & Happy New Year!
groyster1
2108 posts
Dec 28, 2012
3:55 PM
I killed a 5 draw on a suzuki folkmaster that I kept in my car to practice whilst sitting in traffic.....but I do love to hang on 45 draw religiously......5
MP
2622 posts
Dec 28, 2012
4:08 PM
hey orphan!
george, don't all Suzukis have replacement reed plates?
if i remember correctly, the Bushman Delta Frost uses Folkmaster reed plates. maybe not. the Suzuki guys around here would know.
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MP
affordable reed replacement and repairs.

"making the world a better place, one harmonica at a time"

click user name [MP] for info-
repair videos on YouTube.
you can reach me via Facebook. Mark Prados
harp-er
287 posts
Dec 29, 2012
8:44 AM
I'd be surprised if the Delta Frost and the Folkmaster use the same reed plates, since the DF claims to use phosphor bronze, while I just suspect the much cheaper Chinese made FM would not.

What say you, all you Suzuki authorities?
Kingley
2070 posts
Dec 29, 2012
8:45 AM
MP - Mark those are great videos on reed replacement and a really good reference source. Full of some very useful tips. I'm going to add them to my library alongside Joe Spiers gapping videos. Some tasty chromatic playing there as well.
barbequebob
2153 posts
Dec 29, 2012
9:10 AM
Harper, it's no surprise because the Delta Frosts are actually manufactured by Suzuki and the easiest eay to tell is that while all other companies have reeds riveted to the reed plates, Suzuki harps have them spot welded.
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harp-er
288 posts
Dec 29, 2012
9:38 AM
So Bob, does that mean I could buy a cheap Folkmaster and get basically the same harp as I'd be getting if I bought the Delta Frost (which I have several of already, and like pretty well)?
If so, that would be nice. $15 versus $38? Of course the comb and cover plates would be different, but if the reed plates are the same, seems to me that would be a major consideration.

Or, I could buy a Folkmaster just for the replacement reed plates to put on my blown out Delta Frosts?

Last Edited by on Dec 29, 2012 9:40 AM
Gnarly
442 posts
Dec 29, 2012
9:47 AM
The Folkmaster is not made in Japan and does not have the spot welded phosphor bronze reeds.
Kingley
2072 posts
Dec 29, 2012
9:38 AM
harp-er - In 2007 Brendan Power posted on Harp L about the origins of the Delta Frost and Suzuki Harpmaster. Here's a link to the post:
[Harp-L] Re: Bushman Delta Frost or Suzuki Harpmaster, which came first?

Last Edited by on Dec 29, 2012 9:39 AM
harp-er
289 posts
Dec 29, 2012
10:07 AM
Kingley, yes, I'm familiar with that. I was wondering anew about the Folkmaster now, based on MP's and BBBob's question/information.

Gnarly, thanks for the clarification. So, definitively, the Folkmaster reed plates will not replace - are not the same as - the Delta Frost reed plates. As I originally suspected.

Last Edited by on Dec 29, 2012 10:08 AM
STME58
342 posts
Dec 29, 2012
8:09 PM
I have in front of me as I write this a delta Frost and Harpmaster. They are quite similar and it looks as if the parts would interchange, although I have not tried it. The covers hafe the same overall shape except for the shape of the back openings and the mount tabs. The cases they came in could be out of the same molds as it looks like the area where it says Bushman or Suzuki is an insert.

The Harp-L post referenced above states that Bushman is a rebrander and the manufacturer of the Delta Frost is Suzuki. I have wondered whether Bushman specified the Delta Frost to Suzuki or if Bushman asked Suzuki for a harp and Suzuki came up with the design. Either way the Delta Frost/Harpmaster looks like what a model railroader would call kit bashing, where you assemble pieces from different models to come up with something new. I like both harps.
MP
2626 posts
Dec 31, 2012
5:13 PM
thanks kingley.

i don't get out much....on the computer. i do take walks and gig though. Happy New Year! see yah, Mark
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MP
affordable reed replacement and repairs.

"making the world a better place, one harmonica at a time"

click user name [MP] for info-
repair videos on YouTube.
you can reach me via Facebook. Mark Prados


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