I'm pretty tired of politics. All parties involved seem to be exagerating their opponents position, quoting out of context and just plain lying. I'm glad Adam has banned politics from this forum. We are free to post a fair open civil discussion here. So who plays the best amp, mic or harmonica?
You know, I've been wrestling with those questions myself just recently. Darn if it isn't a hard call, but I think I've been able to make a decision: as far as best harp playing goes, I've finally decided that it isn't me. That's about as far as I've gotten.
" 883 posts Oct 24, 2012 6:03 PM I'm pretty tired of politics. All parties involved seem to be exagerating their opponents position, quoting out of context and just plain LYING. "
What were you expecting from politicians, honesty?!?!?!?
My favorite Frank and Ernest cartoon, they are looking at the papers at a newstand, the headline is ELECTION RESULTS and Frank tells Ernie, : "I can't look, I just know one of them got elected!"
So, which amp?
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I was getting discouraged but I saw an enligtening and well reasearched point of view on the process that shows the distortion and name calling goes all the way back to the Adams/Jefferson election and may in fact serve a useful purpose in the democratic system. If your interested take a look at the link below. In a similar vein, if you make a mistake and quickly glare at the lead guitar before everyone glares at you, can you convince the crowd the mistake was the guitar players?
Politics isn't an explicitly banned subject here. The word "politics" doesn't show up in the creed. But I can guarantee that such discussions will create bad feelings. So it's probably a good idea to steer clear.
I'm having trouble understanding this complaint. From here (Canada) it looks to me like you have the clearest presidential choice in years: two dedicated, capable leaders fronting two parties with completely different philosophies of government.
I admit it's upsetting that half of you will vote the wrong way, but, hey, that's democracy.
i have thought a boycott would be great, tooka. it might be the only way to get heard is to stay silent! but then it would be which politician has the largest circle of family and friends that would win.
Adam, this was NOT a political thread. I was joking about how well mannered and in full agreement we harp players are regarding gear, players and such. Who needs politics?, we have rousing discussions here all the time. "I would like, at this time, to state that I will not seek the nomination of my party (or anyones' party) for Player of the year and if elected, will not serve."
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My father dabbled in politics. Although he was an artist (painter/sculptor) and environmentalist, he ran for the Country Legislature in Rockland County NY when I was in Jr. HS, and lost. Then, in 1972, he ran as a delegate for George McGovern and won. He went to the convention in Florida. Those were the days.
In some ways I'm the last person I can imagine getting involved in politics. I dislike criticism; I say what I think; I haven't lived the sort of exemplary life that could stand up to microscopic scrutiny. I'd go down in flames, spectacularly.
Then again.......I occasionally get the urge to show 'em all. The Satan-urge to stand up on my soapbox. I'm a lecturer, after all. I could talk to big crowds.
I think if the right opportunity for genuine service came along, and if I got pissed off badly enough about a certain kind of situation, I could be convinced. But I can't imagine why any party would want me aboard.
Ask my wife, though: all I do when I come home from a hard day at the office is watch CNN, MSNBC, and FOX, clicking from channel to channel. I love the talk.
I read the John Jakes "North and South" trilogy - about the civil war, politics and Washington DC. What really blew my mind was the political scene as described during these formative years in our history - and it sounded exactly like what is going on now.....so, the lesson I learned was that politics was and will always be like what we experience now...nothing new is happening...just different players taking the stage. ---------- The Iceman
political junkies arise - there are only 12 days left before the end of the world, God help us - is all hope lost, where do we turn who will lead us to the promise land? :) btw...Holland makes the best harp amp!
Buzz...that depends, does it not on a Victorious Destiny? Afterall hell is only a heart beat away for the poor pundits who wasted the last four years defending the sacred spin of their chosen agenda :) btw...Hohner is the best harp :)
Rick...I got some, but that gives me a good reason to put something fresh up sometime soon. It's basically a Bassmen. So how are you involved in the political insanity?
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I love the negative attack ads. They are usually so far-fetched and crazy and always have picks of the opponent looking like a jackass. ---------- David
____________________ At the time of his birth, it was widely accepted that no one man could play that much music so well or raise that much hell. He proved them all wrong. R.I.P. H. Cecil Payne
"so, the lesson I learned was that politics was and will always be like what we experience now...nothing new is happening...just different players taking the stage."
The Iceman
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So true Iceman, I was just reading some Civil War history myself, and apparently, in the South, if you owned 10 or more slaves you were not required to actually fight, while in the North, for $300 you could send someone else to fight in your place.
Some things never change. The rich and powerful declare war, the lower class and poor fight 'em.
"Some folks are born, made to wave the flag. Ooooh the red, white and blue. But when the band plays Hail To The Chief Ooooh they point the cannon at you" J. Fogerty
Adam: "Ask my wife, though: all I do when I come home from a hard day at the office is watch CNN, MSNBC, and FOX, clicking from channel to channel. I love the talk." You mean you watch CNN, MSNBC, AND FOX? Such diversity... I bet you listen to Rush and Glenn Beck too. The question is for how long? Is allrite, I already know the answer. :)
I don't listen to Rush. I occasionally listen to Glenn Beck. That doesn't mean I agree with him. Beck was much better about five years ago, when he was just an ex-addict trying to speak his truth on talk radio, before he became a hard-right messiah pretending to be a college history professor. He often made sense back then when he spoke about personal behavioral issues.
I'm unusual, I think, in enjoying the process of listening to (or watching) hosts with whom I rarely or never agree. It gets my mind working. It's called critical thinking. It's something I teach my students. I'm interested in the way that ideologies function within faith communities and belief communities--such as the hard Right and hard Left.
My five SIRIUS/XM preset stations are Bluesville, Real Jazz, Patriot, MSNBC (the TV feed) and the "black talk" station called The Power. Joe Madison in the morning. I only agree with 60% of what he says.
I'm a true independent; the last true liberal, I sometimes think.
To the extent that I find public voices that I almost always agree with, they're Dave Ramsey (the conservative Christian financial advisor), Rachel Maddow (the lesbian progressive), and the editorial column of the New Yorker.
Although my politics could not be further from Dr. James Dobson's, I actually enjoy listening to him when he speaks about family issues like the way in which sons need their father's guidance and love. Same thing with Bill Bennett. I don't agree with them on politics, but when they talk about masculine responsibilities for guiding the young, I hear useful things. The progressive left says very little about such things, at least on talk radio and cable TV. That disappoints me. I'm a fan of Robert Bly's IRON JOHN.
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i gotta side with adam here. i listen to several of the slanted stations. after the debates was a great time to jump between FOX and MSNBC! and i loved watching beck! that guy could turn a phrase. and i think he really believed most of what he said.
wow! this thread has gone almost a full page and i dont see it even getting close to being locked!
You know what? I play the best damned blues of my life during this time of year because I see the same mistakes repeated over and over again and too much not-listening happening all over.
But no matter what happens, I'm free to wail the blues in the park. Or at least shut off the part of my brain that tells me I can't or shouldn't. At least until the dogs come running from a mile away when I hit the wrong note.
God bless election time, even if I don't like what happens we're free to express, and that's something to smile about.
