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528hemi
288 posts
Aug 08, 2012
3:58 PM
Do you know about when they made this amp and the model? Do you think it will be any good for a bedroom amp?

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Last Edited by on Aug 08, 2012 4:01 PM
5F6H
1313 posts
Aug 08, 2012
4:15 PM
Year is a little irrelevant (models were not always introduced, or updated every year on the dot) any date code on the speaker, transformers, or volume pot?

It appears to be old and "single ended" so probably 4W or less.
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Last Edited by on Aug 08, 2012 4:16 PM
528hemi
289 posts
Aug 08, 2012
4:40 PM
Actually it is a Magnatone not a supro.
SERIAL NUMBER 29685

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Would this amp normally be good for harp?

I think I found something.

1947-1953 Magna Electronics Co.
From 1947 to 1952 amplifier production at Magna centered around 5 watt and 10 watt steel guitar amplifiers. A lot of the early models were finished with mother of pearl plastic that matched a Magnatone build steel guitar. The guitar and amp were often sold as a set, but they could be bough individually as well. Colors changed, but blue and black were most popular. The plastic covered amplifiers usually had a grill cloth depicting a beach surf scene or palm trees to complete the hawaiian motif

So looking at the last few numbers on the speaker, Would this be a 1953?

528hemi

Last Edited by on Aug 08, 2012 4:53 PM
bonedog569
594 posts
Aug 08, 2012
7:20 PM
"Mother of toilet seat" Magnatone- early 50's I believe. Yes some where sold with lap steel guitars, like the BR9 Gibson. Should be a great little harp amp.
Wouldn't mind having one in the collection but haven't found one at a bargain price yet.

@5F - aren't those 2 6v6's on the left- Making it push pull?
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Last Edited by on Aug 08, 2012 7:24 PM
Noodles
222 posts
Aug 08, 2012
7:24 PM
5F6H
1314 posts
Aug 09, 2012
3:06 AM
Hi Bonedog, I'd guess that one was the rectifier (closest to AC cord).

@ 528Hemi - Any numbers on those tubes? There is no obvious power transformer, so I'm wondering if it runs the tubes off wall AC? If so, a 1:1 isolation transformer (between amp & the wall) would be a very wise move.
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Last Edited by on Aug 09, 2012 11:25 AM
chromaticblues
1292 posts
Aug 09, 2012
3:36 AM
I agree 5F6H.
Where's the power T?
I've never seen an amp where it was inside.
If there were a power T insight I'd say it was a
5Y3, 6V6 and 6SJ7, but sense there isn't. my guess is: a half wave rectifier all the way to the right (35??).
25L6 and 12SJ7
528hemi
290 posts
Aug 09, 2012
11:10 AM
The amp is on its way to my house so should have some answers. I am not even sure it is working although the tubes light which is good

check out article below. I think you are right and it does not have a transformer.

http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2009/Sep/The_Little_Magnatone_That_Could.aspx

"The amplifier was powered on to see if it was working and to listen for any nasty noises that would need to be addressed in our “check and clean” procedure. Surprisingly, the amp sounded pretty darn good. It had a very unique character to the break up as the amp was pushed into distortion. The amp was then disassembled to check for leaky caps and resistors that may have drifted out of spec that would cause the voltages to swing to unsafe/improper levels. First I tried to locate the power transformer to get my bearings. Hmmmm, strange I thought, no power transformer! Then it dawned on me. This amp is running on pure AC!"


Read more: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2009/Sep/The_Little_Magnatone_That_Could.aspx#ixzz234snzGSq

528hemi

Last Edited by on Aug 09, 2012 12:07 PM
528hemi
291 posts
Aug 14, 2012
5:21 PM
So I recieved the amp today and plugged her in and the tubes lit up and it actually worked which I was very happy. It has a great Tone for bedroom or recording.

It does have issues with it cutting out and in. Everything looks original. Would a Tube cause it to cut in and out or more likely a leaky CAP? I am sure it needs to be serviced to make it dependable.

I will post some pictures tomorrow when I open her up.

528hemi

Last Edited by on Aug 14, 2012 5:21 PM
MJ
448 posts
Aug 14, 2012
5:26 PM
If it has no Power transformer, I would advise installing an isolation transformer before putting a mic from it to your lips.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Isolation-transformer-upgrade-for-old-guitar-amps/

Last Edited by on Aug 14, 2012 5:44 PM
528hemi
292 posts
Aug 15, 2012
9:04 AM
Although this amp sounds pretty good I dont think I want to get into adding transformers and then servicing this amp. Anyone know the value of selling an amp like this? I have the option of returning it and thinking of going that route. I dont want to sink alot into this small amp.

528hemi
Noodles
258 posts
Aug 15, 2012
10:05 AM
Anyone know the value of selling an amp like this?

Here's what's on Ebay right now.Worth a look.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=magnatone+amp&_sacat=0

Last Edited by on Aug 15, 2012 10:06 AM
528hemi
293 posts
Aug 15, 2012
11:24 AM
Most of those listings are with guitars so hard to gauge but thank you for the heads up.

528hemi
MP
2409 posts
Aug 15, 2012
4:20 PM
Harmony also made a lap steel amp with no power tranny.
about 5 watts. very much a budget model.

Now, this "Mother of Toilet Seat", as Bonedog pointed out appears to be higher end:-)

i like the Motel 6 kitchenette drawer handle.

it's a keeper.

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Last Edited by on Aug 15, 2012 4:25 PM
528hemi
294 posts
Aug 16, 2012
4:38 PM
I took the tubes out and put them back in and it seems to play without cutting out although I did not play it long. I dont want to get shocked. :)

I did a quick video of how it sounds.
I also took the chassis out for a quick peak and it is all original inside. Nothing ever replaced and not much inside :)

I played along with 1 of David Barrett's MP3 so he is playing in the background but you can still hear how the amp sounds.



I had to plug it back in :) played it for about 45 minutes with no issues. 2 inputs 1 input is higher gain. I decided I am going to keep her. This amp really forces you to play real softly as it really reacts and breaks up nicely.

528hemi

Last Edited by on Aug 16, 2012 6:56 PM
chromaticblues
1312 posts
Aug 17, 2012
9:30 AM
The cutting in and out could be the tube sockets maybe loose. Very common with low end older amps.
528hemi
295 posts
Aug 17, 2012
10:33 AM
Thanks Chromaticblues,

Yup, Appears to be working fine now. Will see how she holds up for an old original amp. I am suprised it does not need caps or resisters? I was under the impression that they all wear out. IF the values are out of spec, I would not know it by the way it sounds :)

528hemi


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