harmonicanick
1601 posts
May 20, 2012
2:35 PM
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So what note do you play to bring him or her up to speed when you are just about to play to an audience (and you have just met the guitarist)?
I use 4 blow on a A harp
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Pistolcat
179 posts
May 20, 2012
2:42 PM
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10 OD on a Ab. Or 1 OB on a LF#. That'll teach him being out of tune!
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nacoran
5705 posts
May 20, 2012
3:06 PM
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My guitar player friends usually ask me to play the note for their top string, open, for whichever tuning they are using. Most guitar players seem to be trained to tune relative to their top string. In standard tuning that's an E, I think.
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rbeetsme
749 posts
May 20, 2012
7:18 PM
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I played, onstage with a guy who was out of tune. I kept asking him under my breath, "Are you sure you're in G?" It was horrible. I played what I was sure were the right notes but it sounded awful. Later, offstage he checks his tuning. "Oh man, I'm way off!" No kidding!
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billy_shines
411 posts
May 20, 2012
7:48 PM
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usually 4 blow A harp. but in open G that doesnt always work. thats why god invented the chromatic tuner. solo i like pulling a guitar completely out of tune and see how long i can go without tuning it up.
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oldwailer
1896 posts
May 21, 2012
12:17 AM
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If the guitarist doesn't have a chromatic clip-on tuner and use it at the start (at least) of a set--just don't play with him! That's just nuts to not have a tuner these days--they're as cheap as strings.
Further, if the guitarist can't tell he's way out of tune without a tuner--don't play with him either.
And (for us guitarists) if a harp player whips out a harp that has a blown reed or is just too out of tune--don't play with him.
People who can't be somewhat in tune and tell the difference aren't musicians. .
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harmonicanick
1603 posts
May 21, 2012
12:59 AM
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@OW
On this particular occasion I had no choice.
It was my sister's 50th party and she insisted I play with a 'blues' guitarist who was one of the guests.
He did not have a tuner, hence me asking him to tune to my four blow on an A, because he was clearly way off.
It went well, despite another guest jumping up with a wood saw and a violin bow and making a high pitched shreaking sound!
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Leatherlips
87 posts
May 21, 2012
1:01 AM
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I was told once that my factory untouched harp was out of tune, that is until the guitarist did a check and found he was out nearly half a tone.
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jbone
911 posts
May 21, 2012
5:08 AM
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a guitarist without a good tuner is a dipstick, and below the level of people i want to play with in public. not being a hardass but there is a certain level of courtesy we must give each other as musicians. by the same token i always make sure my harps are not flatted out, my amp is not overbearing, and i play only what's needed to make a good song great or a bad one passable.
having the courage to insist that someone on stage check and recheck is no easy thing, and esp when some people look at the harp guy as a nuisance. but it's very important to me as an individual and a musician to stand up and ask- or sometimes demand- what the moment requires to be a good moment. most times out live you have an audience to please and not just your cohort on stage, so it's doubly important to sound the best you can as a band or unit.
i have stepped down sometimes rather than put up with exceptionally bad quality from band mates, say at a jam. i have also stepped up and led the band out of the weeds no matter if one guy was out of tune. this can show someone their error too and you can end up looking and sounding great! it is risky but worth 9it when it succeeds.
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billy_shines
413 posts
May 21, 2012
5:30 AM
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nac i use a B string for a top string and tune gGDGbd. and i pull the strings out of tune for each song. sometimes i dont even use real strings, since i rarely break them i replace them with homemade substitutes. if im too lazy to put the battery in the tuner or i cant find it i blow in a budweiser beer bottle, this gives me a perfect G and i take it from there. you can forget harmonics on my guitar because the strings are kinked on purpose to give a buzzy disorted sound. so its a long process of rockabilly basslines and arabic twang until i get it all right with the proper overdrones which confuses the chromatic tuner (makes G read as D)anyone wanna jam... in lets say G?
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jbone
915 posts
May 21, 2012
7:46 PM
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Billy, i'd love to see video and hear you- got a link???
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billy_shines
417 posts
May 22, 2012
6:03 AM
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this is out of tune with the b string replacing the fat E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPHYS0-7FBQ&list=UUiK9snmbUVz58tpvhyhqamQ&index=5&feature=plcp
this is the kinky homemade strings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmqoy4KB3KU
yeah always keep a C harp thats going flat theyre great for hokum jazz or if you run into a banjo player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKxZBvE8bjM
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