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Help with pedal break up
Help with pedal break up
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jodanchudan
554 posts
Mar 06, 2012
1:13 PM
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What's with this? I have a danelectro 'corned beef' reverb pedal I picked up second hand - sort of a slapback effect I gather. But I get some pretty nasty breakup when I play anything even remotely hard, or on thicker textures like 4/5 draws. Is that something to do with it being a digital rather than analogue? My mic is a bullet with a CM element if that makes any difference.
Also, looking at some other threads I read about the Akai Rush pedal which lets you loop - reckon that'd be fun to mess around with. It has a delay function too, but I don't want to get anything that's going to break up in the same way.
Anyone any idea what causes this and whether the Akai is likely to do the same thing? Basically, the budget's tight and I want to get a pedal that'll give me decent delay, but preferably some other effects as well, particularly looping.
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isaacullah
1846 posts
Mar 06, 2012
2:25 PM
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Here's a secret. Almost all the lower and middle priced Danelectro delay/reverb pedals use the pt2399 digital delay chip. It's famous as a dirty, lo-fi, digital delay chip that is easy to use in DIY projects. It's just a dirty dirty chip. My fab echo has that same chip. I've gone under the hood, and opened up all the possibilities the chip provides (infinite repeats, full wet mix, adjustable delay time, etc.), and I can pretty much set it to sound like any of the Dano delay/reverb pedals. Before I bought my new Zoom G3, I actually used to use it to GET some breakup when playing direct into my little PB-1 battery amp, which is pretty clean. To do so, I put a Fish & Chips EQ pedal in front of it to boost the signal, and then set the modified Fab to -- you guessed it -- a reverb-like setting. Voila! Instant dirt.
If you want clean reverbs in pedal form that won't break the bank, go with a modeling pedal. Either a stand alone reverb modeling pedal (there are a lot out there, including inexpensive Behringer ones) or a multiFX pedal. The reverbs on the Digitech RP's is excellent, as is the HD reverb on the Zoom G3. The new RP's (with xx5 numbers) have loopers, but the looper in the G3 is WAY better. Used RP 155's will run ya around the $70-$80 mark, and a new G3 (probably can't find them used yet) can be had for as low as $175, if you use coupons or shop a guitar center sale. That's what I paid for mine, and I LOVE it.
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Last Edited by on Mar 06, 2012 2:31 PM
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isaacullah
1847 posts
Mar 06, 2012
2:29 PM
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Oh, and if you are set on the Akai, it likely won't do the same thing. I'm pretty sure it's delays/reverbs are DSP, so it should be fine.
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tookatooka
2790 posts
Mar 06, 2012
2:49 PM
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Erm! DSP? (Scratching head) Digital Signal Processing?
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jodanchudan
556 posts
Mar 06, 2012
11:47 PM
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Thanks, Isaac - I'll check out your suggestions.
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