Sunnyside
7 posts
Jan 16, 2012
9:32 AM
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Hohner has come up with a new professional tool kit and supports it worldwide with ten online service videos.
The URLs of all these videos are on my blog. VERY usefull stuff. First time ever a major manufacturer puts so much info on the internet. Worth a look on my blog:
http://juke-myharmonicablog.blogspot.com/
The tool kit should be presented at NAMM, by the end of the week.
Sunnyside
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Adam Hamil
22 posts
Jan 16, 2012
10:34 AM
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I've tried one of these. Nice kit. It allows you to replace reeds with screws instead of rivets. I'm not sure if I'm completely sold on the idea of screws, but this kit makes it very easy. All of the tools from the regular service set are included with this upgraded kit. I have a few of those and I use them everyday. I can't wait to own one of these bad boys!!!
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HarpNinja
2073 posts
Jan 16, 2012
11:22 AM
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The full kit is not cheap...but neither are the tools. I am hoping to bring one of these along to some seminars this year. It would be the ideal travel kit for me.
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Harpbaker
3 posts
Jan 16, 2012
12:23 PM
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It's an unprecedented step for a major harmonica manufacturer to release a whole series of professional quality harmonica service videos aimed at the player.
Demonstrated by Gabriela Hand, head of chromatic harmonica manufacture in Trossingen and presented by myself, these HD videos provide detailed information on many major aspects of harmonica maintenance and also introduce the new Hohner Instant Workshop toolset, designed to enable easy reed replacement in addition to all other maintenance operations covered in the videos. Reed replacement is done using screws (well actually rather cute little bolts) because a riveting tool allows no margin of error - if you make a mistake, the plate is ruined.
Though primarily dealing with the chromatic harmonica, many of the subjects covered in the videos such as tuning, centering, reed offsetting or reed replacement are applicable to all types of harmonica and will undoubtedly be equally useful for diatonic players. The tools and techniques presented here will also be invaluable for harmonica technicians and may well revolutionize harmonica repair by rendering it accessible to everyman. In an era where more and more commodities are seen as being disposable, it's a welcome sign that things don't always have to be throwaway! Here the links to the individual videos:
C01 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Dc3ssh_bM
C02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDjJIluEX-g
C02.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ju0FOZcCU4
C03 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c9MUfhZWJM
C04 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMlGCMwU8Ko
C05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12cdfpp2Sg0
C06 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9-31j2nPgE
C07 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfC9OPmhyuU
C08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fVReyQfwA8
C08.1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMj9e853zIM
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jim
1144 posts
Jan 16, 2012
1:27 PM
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how do you expect one to change reeds using the hohner toolkit?
it has no tools for that
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HarpNinja
2074 posts
Jan 16, 2012
2:03 PM
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The full kit has a deriveter, hand drills, hand taps, screws, nuts, and reeds. I am hoping to bring one to a harp seminar this May. I like the tools I have, but this would be the ideal travel kit!
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jim
1145 posts
Jan 16, 2012
2:15 PM
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where's all that on the hohner website?
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REM
152 posts
Jan 16, 2012
2:41 PM
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Jim, You should really read the whole thread before posting, or at least (in this case) the original post. It's not on the Hohner website because it hasn't been released yet, but if you go to the blog given in the original post, you'll see pictures of the new kit. And you can follow the links to see tools from the new kit being demonstrated.
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Sunnyside
8 posts
Jan 16, 2012
2:56 PM
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Thank you REM...
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HarpNinja
2075 posts
Jan 16, 2012
3:22 PM
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The kit is already available in Germany. It won't be stateside until after NAMM this week. Due to the fact it really targets pros (the full set), there won't be a ton of marketing behind it.
You have to watch the whole tool kit vid as it is segmented.
The only other harp related NAMM stuff is chromatic related.
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REM
153 posts
Jan 16, 2012
3:24 PM
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Sunnyside, is there any way to read your blog in english? On the side of the page it says "Translate this page", but you can't click on it.
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jim
1146 posts
Jan 16, 2012
3:31 PM
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Just watched the video.
LOL, these are the same tools that Seydel sells.
That are, in their turn, the same tools that Harponline used to sell...
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jim
1147 posts
Jan 16, 2012
3:49 PM
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"Presenting the new..." :D
This is getting pathetic. I've been using that for at least three years already.
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REM
154 posts
Jan 16, 2012
3:58 PM
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I wish they hadn't used the same type of reed replacement system. There's really no reason to use both a nut and bolt. It makes attaching a valve difficult. At least Hohner designed an attachment to punch a hole in the valve so that it will fit over the bolt head. It also causes a problem with certain models of diatonics, because the slots on the combs aren't long enough to accomodate the bolt heads. It's just not a good system for attaching reeds, imho.
I really prefer using the Suzuki reed bolts, they're self tapping, you don't need to use a nut (so no special tool just to hold the microscopic nut), and it leaves the back of the reed plate flush so there's no problem adding a valve.
I like how Hohner designed the deriveting tool. I've heard a couple people have had their Seydel tool break (specifically the tiny piece that knocks out the rivet), if this happens on the Hohner tool you just have to replace the screw on piece instead having to replace the entire tool.
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REM
155 posts
Jan 16, 2012
4:09 PM
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How exactly is it pathetic? Hohner's updating their tool set. Did they invent all of the new tools, No(although,they did upgrade the derivet tool)..but niether did Seydel, is their kit pathetic as well?
Not to mention that Hohner's the first harmonica company to post a series of free videos online actually showing you how to use the tools and teach you some maintenance and repairs of harmonicas(like reed replacement). I'd hardly call that pathetic. It certainly would have been nice if Seydel had done that when they started selling tools.
You have a habit of making ridiculous claims based on your own biases. You act like all your opinions are fact, and you often state them in an over the top(sometimes insulting)way. It's getting old.
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jim
1148 posts
Jan 16, 2012
5:41 PM
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@REM: You can (and should) file off the screw head. Then you can use valves.
Also: you can't leave the screw head if you're repairing a marine band. There's no place for it in the stock comb.
Those tools were designed by Harponline (Michael Timmler?)
I find pathetic presenting a product that's at least 5 years old as new. And even waiting for NAMM to show it. They can just start selling it, there's nothing to present. That was the point.
And damn yes, what I said is a fact - you can't deny that that toolset is nothing new.
Seydel have pretty self-explainatory pictures and instructions on the website.
Hohner's video is good but does not cover all important details. For example, when you use the reamer, you end up with the larger hole shifting to the side (and the replaced reed being not centered correctly.
Then you need to enlarge the rivet hole further on. This happens in about 40% of the cases.
The star-nuts are also very fragile and you can easily break the threading if you overtighten them.
The de-riveter will also BREAK if you try to take out an old MS reed. You need to file off the back side of the rivet first. Same goes for Lee Oskars.
The screws should be tightened until the screw head breaks (i.e. as tight as possible). Then you file off the head. If the screw is loose and starts to screw out when you tighten the nut - you've got major problems.
If you leave some scratches on the reedplate where the reed sits, the reed will be fixed better and not swing off-center so easy.
Same thing - you can use nail polish to fixate the reed.
You can't apply valves to marine bands unless you modify the comb.
The default tapper in all three toolkit versions (harponline, seydel, hohner) is VERY FRAGILE. If it breaks in the slot, the reedplate is screwed.
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REM
156 posts
Jan 16, 2012
6:47 PM
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There's no need to use a nut, and there should be no need to remove the bolt head, it's just a lot of unnecessary extra work. You can just use a properly sized bolt(like the suzuki reed bolts) and screw it in from the reed side. You can even use the same bolts that Seydel(and now Hohner) supply and screw them in from the reed side. No need to use the nut, and it'll be easier to file down on the other side.
"Also: you can't leave the screw head if you're repairing a marine band. There's no place for it in the stock comb."
Yeah, I know, I pointed that out as being one of the problems with this type of screw replacement. If they'd supllied people with the proper type of bolt (like the suzuki reed bolts), needing to file anything off would be completely unneccesary.
"And damn yes, what I said is a fact - you can't deny that that toolset is nothing new."
You honestly think that's what I was refering to? LOL
Keep thinking, I'm sure you'll eventually figure out the type of comments I'm refering to.
"Seydel have pretty self-explainatory pictures and instructions on the website.
Hohner's video is good but does not cover all important details. For example, when you use the reamer, you end up with the larger hole shifting to the side (and the replaced reed being not centered correctly."
This clearly shows you're bias. You're quick to nit pick and point out the problems you have with Hohners videos, but apparently Seydel's written instruction are "pretty self-explainatory" and you apparently have no problems with them. We know you love Seydel, but your bias is a bit over the top. Yes Seydel does a lot of great stuff, but there are also things that Hohner does better than Seydel.
"The de-riveter will also BREAK if you try to take out an old MS reed. You need to file off the back side of the rivet first. Same goes for Lee Oskars"
The Seydel version will. If you watch the videos it's
pretty clear that while the basic idea is the same, Hohner has made design changes to their deriveter. So(since you have tried their version) there's no possible way you could know that it would break when using it on other models. And if it does at some point break, all you'll have to do is replace the screw on piece. Where as with the Seydel version you have to buy an all new deriveter.
"The default tapper in all three toolkit versions (harponline, seydel, hohner) is VERY FRAGILE. If it breaks in the slot, the reedplate is screwed"
A problem that could have been solved by simply using self tapping screws (like the Suzuki reed screws).
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Cristal Lecter
270 posts
Jan 16, 2012
7:10 PM
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Extremely interesting videos, I love what Hohner has done here ...And Steve Baker is always a pleasure to listen to.
Suzuki harmonicas has this toolkit too
http://www.harmonica-online.com/new-products/HRT-10.html
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REM
157 posts
Jan 16, 2012
8:04 PM
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Thanks for posting that christelle, I didn't know seydel had a tool kit available. Those two tools with the big screw in knobs (I don't know how else to describe them) must be the special jigs(that joe spiers mentioned) for replacecing their welded reeds (with bolts).
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Willspear
35 posts
Jan 16, 2012
9:10 PM
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It's great that all the major brands are at least trying to make repairing things a more common approach be it tools or even just swapping reed plates.
The thing seydel does that is great is not the marketing of tools but the marketing of parts of every kind. Seydel also has most things to the point that you can take parts from multiple lines and construct frankenharps with ease without wasting tons of cash on parts you don't need.
Hohner needs to make it more simple to get parts for the average enthusiast because as it stands buying a new harp is often the same or less than parts.
The video thing is welcome because I am just now starting to get more into tweaking my own harps. I tune them now but I like the idea of fixing them too
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nacoran
5113 posts
Jan 16, 2012
9:20 PM
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Willspear, it's funny though. I think that was the point of Hohner's MS series harps- that everything was interchangeable- but there was a revolt against it and lot's of people still avoid MS harps. Some of their harps are interchangeable though. I've made frankenharps with SP20 reeds and Piedmont covers and they fit just fine. Seydel might have actually had an advantage there because they were more of an unknown.
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jim
1149 posts
Jan 17, 2012
1:31 AM
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@REM with that approach, you'll destroy the reedplate threading after several reed exchanges.
Different reedplates also have different thickness.
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jiceblues
59 posts
Jan 17, 2012
2:02 AM
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HOHNER reedplates are much too expensive , a better way to go : AFFORDABLE REEDPLATES and parts ! and most of us are players , not customisers .If i lived in USA , i'd trade with MP !
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REM
160 posts
Jan 17, 2012
2:07 AM
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How exactly is it going to destroy the threading, unless you over tighten quite a bit and strip it?(which is something you obviously shouldn't do)
I've changed several reeds using this method (and I know other customisers who do as well) and I've made several exchanges of the same reeds on the same harps, and I never had a problem. You shouldn't make absolute statements like that when you don't even have personal experience with this particular method.
If you overtighten and really crank on the bolts, then yes you can strip the threading on the reed plate (same is true with anything that's threaded). But there's no reason to be cranking down on the bolts like that. You could do the same thing with the method that you use.
As for the thicknessof the reed plate, that's not really a problem either. If the reedplate is on the thin side, all you would have to do is file/sand the end of the bolt down about a fraction of a millimeter (unless you come across some harmonica with an absurdly thin reed plate), which is quite a bit easier than having to file off the entire bolt head.
And it's also not a problem if you have a thicker reed plate. There's no reason that you would need to have the reed bolt threaded through the entire thickness of the reedplate, when using an extra thick reedplate.
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jim
1150 posts
Jan 17, 2012
2:14 AM
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any extra screwing and unscrewing loosens the thread.
When I build a low low D for example, I have to put the reed and take it off several dozen times.
How do I obtain those magical screws by the way? No info on suzuki website...
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REM
161 posts
Jan 17, 2012
2:49 AM
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I never had experience with threads "loosening", I'm not even sure exactly what you mean by that. I've also screwed and unscrewed reeds many many times when I was playing around with trying differents sorts of tunings. And I haven't noticed the threads "loosening".
What about nuts and bolts that they use for cover plates, should we worry about their threads becoming "loose"? On the Sp.20 for example, the nuts that use for the coverplates are made of brass and are about the same thickness as reedplate (approx.), and people often screw and unscrew those sometimes hundreds of times without problem.
I get the feeling that your simply searching for some way to show that the way you do things is the best, and superior to all other methods, and if people don't do it your way they're doing it wrong.
And from my observations, it seems like you have a habit of having that kind of attitude, and that's the type of thing I was refering to before.
"How do I obtain those magical screws by the way?"
I certainly never claimed they were magical, I just said that I think using them is an easier method of bolting on reeds, which is why I wished that Hohner had chosen to use this type of method/bolt in their tool kits, instead of the having the same method as the seydel/harponline kits (which I personally am not a fan of).
As for obtaining the suzuki reed bolts, no they don't have them advertised online (I wish they did, but they probably figure the amount of people who would actually have an interest in them is pretty miniscule), so you would need to contact them. You could also try asking Brendan Power and he'll probably sell you some (I've gotten them from him before, but if he's not still selling them, at the very least I'm sure he'd give you the info you need to purchase them from suzuki). You don't even need to get the suzuki bolts specifically, other customisers just get the right size bolt(self tapping if you don't want to use a tap) and they just snip it to the correct length (which would be cheaper than purchasing the bolts from suzuki).Now that Suzuki's put together their own tool kit (I actually don't know how long it's been available) my guess would be that, eventually, their reed bolts will be more readily/easily available.
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jim
1151 posts
Jan 17, 2012
3:28 AM
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I never said my way is the best and the only one.
Though what I clearly see is that you're trying to pick on my words.
I don't see you offering an alternative. You say there are self-tapping screws, but have no exact idea where to get them. I'd get 1000 screws and nuts.
Many reedplates that I saw had only 3 or 4 working screws - the rest had dead threading.
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REM
162 posts
Jan 17, 2012
3:54 AM
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What do you mean I'm not offering an alternative? I explained what the basic method was, and said I wish that this was the route that Hohner would have chosen. My goal/point wasn't to give people all the information they need to start replacing reeds this way. I just said that I wish Hohner did it this way because I think it has advantages over the other method, and you started challenging me on that point.
" You say there are self-tapping screws, but have no exact idea where to get them"
Well that's just BS. I have them and I've puchased(directly from suzuki and from Brendan), so clearly I know how to get them. It's not my problem if you can't be bothered to contact suzuki. I mentioned Brendan because he has them and that was the easier way for me to buy them, but it's not up to me to say that Brendan is willing to be people's main source for these bolts, he may not be interested in selling them to lots of people (I don't know for sure). So you may have to just order them directly from suzuki. But as I also said, you don't have to have those specific bolts for this method of reed attachment (and it has the bonus of being much cheaper than buying the suzuki bolts).
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jim
1152 posts
Jan 17, 2012
4:22 AM
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how do I contact suzuki then?
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REM
163 posts
Jan 17, 2012
4:45 AM
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Well here's one option:
1-800-854-1594
Personally I prefer email : P
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GMaj7
3 posts
Jan 17, 2012
5:37 AM
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Cool stuff on the Hohner Tool Kit. Can you buy the reeds, too? Last time I ordered reeds from Hohner it took 8 weeks and 4 phone calls, 1 in-house inventory, 2 complaints, 3 emails, $5.00 in shipping to get half of what I ordered. When I complained, they said I should have known they were out of stock because they didn't ship what I ordered.
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REM
165 posts
Jan 17, 2012
6:10 AM
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Gmaj7, That sucks, I hate bad customer service.
I was excited to see that they're going to start selling sets of reeds, instead of just selling indivdual reeds at $2 a pop. That was one of the sad things about harponline closing, they were they the only place that sold hohner reed sets. Hopefully they keep these sets priced about the same as harponline sold them for. I guess I'd be crazy to hope that they'd actually be priced lower than what harponline had them for. I mean honestly how much can it really cost them to produce the reeds? Like I said, since harponline closed, if you wanted a brand new reed Hohner sold them to you individually for $2 a piece, which has to be an insane mark up. Hopefully the prices will be more reasonable if you're buying them in sets, but I don't have my hopes set real high.
But that's what buying beat up old Marine Bands off of ebay is good for, for a few dollars you get a set of donor reeds. They may not be new, but most people who have a harp just blow into a few times and then throw it aside. Even if they do spend some time playing it, they tend not to beat up the reeds like actual harp players do.
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HarpNinja
2076 posts
Jan 17, 2012
6:27 AM
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I have no idea how other companies do the individual reed thing for the average joe, but I am not entirely sure they are usually accessible for people.
Granted, a single reed is not expensive in terms of production, but the shipping and handling come at a cost not only monetarily, but because of time. Furthermore, for any harp manufacturer, making them too accessible is a double-edged sword.
Any company would rather you spend more money on a new set of reedplates or a new harmonica.
There is a fair amount of bias on this forum regarding harp manufacturers and their practices. Much of what people complain about shows very little thought or perspective into what it means to be a harmonica business, and generally has more to do with slamming the competition.
That is not an attack on comments specific to this thread, but some of the comments here (by more than one of us) seem to show little perspective.
The fact that companies even have tool sets and allow for reed replacement is way cool. The harmonica is the most purchased instrument in the world...the number of players who care even a little about this stuff is probably a mere fraction of a percent. The number of people actually applying this knowledge is even less.
Even in the small world of this forum, we can all point to more players who play stock harps and throw them as they go flat than those who even gig regularily enough to worry about maintenance issues.
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Harpbaker
5 posts
Jan 17, 2012
7:06 AM
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Reeds will be available both as complete sets and individually (minimum order 5 pcs per reed). When talking about the price of spare parts it may be worth considering that if you were to build a new car out of spare parts purchased from the manufacturer, it would cost you about 3 times what the vehicle cost new.
How to order reeds or single reeds:
hohner-cshop.de
Look for the appropriate model in the spare parts section.
For the US market please direct all enquiries to Bill Bucco:
bbucco@hohnerusa.com
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harpwrench
554 posts
Jan 17, 2012
8:10 AM
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If you use the bolt and nut to replace a draw reed on a MB, all you need to do is grind or cut a relief in the comb to clear the bolt head. Probably not a good idea on a one-draw reed, but fine for the rest.
If you ream the hole to the proper size and use a light oil on the thread tap it shouldn't break. You also need to keep an eye on the soft brass plugging up the threads of the tap (that's why oil should be used). That can ruin the whole job. I've never broken one yet (knock on wood).
I'd rather screw right into the plate than use a nut because I can tighten the screw with one hand, aligning the reed with a wrench with the other hand, over a light box. I've never been able to put enough torque on one to strip the threads in a reed plate, and I have pretty strong hands from pulling wrenches on trucks for over 25 years. After doing a thousand reeds this way, I guarantee that the problem isn't worth fretting about..... *if* the threads were skillfully cut into a correctly sized hole to begin with. And if you messed up your threads somehow, there's still the option to use a nut.
I'm really starting to like using new rivets instead though lol.
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HarveyHarp
340 posts
Jan 17, 2012
8:22 AM
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Hey Joe. I think it would be real cool if you could make a video of how to replace a reed, and attach it with a new rivet. I suck at it, and usually give up and screw it in. I use 0-80 stainless screws, and just file/sand the back flat. Old reeds with the rivets still attached are, of course, the easiest way to replace a reed.
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HarpNinja
2077 posts
Jan 17, 2012
8:45 AM
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Richard Sleigh has shared a video on using new rivets...
http://rsleigh.com/reed-replacement-video-2/
Kinya Pollard has outlined how to do so reusing an old rivet...
http://archive.harmonicasessions.com/aug04/h-workbench.html
I like using screws (but usually use rivets), and like Joe prefer not using nuts, but the blow plate is a different animal.
I spent a whole morning Googling and emailing and calling every company and such I could to find screws with small enough heads so I could avoid using a nut on the blow plate. What I was told is it was going to be really hard to find anything smaller than what I already had...https://qtena.com/stainless-steel-hinge-screws-14mm-25mm-head-p-3624.html
In the picture, they look PERFECT, but the head is actually your typical round head. It doesn't extend beyond the rivet pad, BUT it sits high, IMO. The solution has been to use those as is for draw reeds and then to thread the blow reeds like they are on a B-Rad.
The problem with this is you can see the nut through the tines of the harmonica. It is an eye-sore, IMO.
For my harps, this method is fine. If I were to replace all the reeds like one of Joe's harps, I'd be fine using the screws on the blow plate too. I just like to use all the same method on the blow plate.
I've had ok results with reusing rivets. It is harder work to do the new ones, but not a big deal. I don't find that you have to have something like the Ferrell tool if you have the taps and hammers handy. The hard part is keeping track of the rivet and then hammering the head on it. Sometimes, I have to try try again, whereas with screws it takes less then 10 minutes to fix the reed.
I don't use the hand drills like in the Hohner set, though, I have a hand-turned drill press for tapping reeds and reedplates. I do use a hand drill to reem the reed pad, though.
I am a sucker for efficientcy, so I try to have set-ups that don't require too many bit changes, etc.
***The nice thing about trying rivets first is if you screw up royally, you can still easily use a screw. If you f-up a screw, it is hard to salvage the mess.
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GMaj7
4 posts
Jan 17, 2012
9:51 AM
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This is great information..
I am going to check out the vids.. can't recall if I have seen them or not.
On another note, Seydel sells stainless & brass as sets to the average Joe and pretty reasonably, too.
Of course, it doesn't really matter, though. If you are in the U.S. Seydel has shown a consistent willingness to repair their stuff for no charge. Suzuki has done both.. repair for no charge and charged $15.00. Once Gary even sent me some reeds for no charge. Good customer service there.
Good on Hohner for coming up with a kit.
I remember ordering individual reeds a couple years back from Sissi at Hohner.. You order 20 and you usually got 30 or more. Those were great days!
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MrVerylongusername
2153 posts
Jan 17, 2012
10:25 AM
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At these prices http://www.hohner-cshop.eu/en/Harmonica/Tools-Aids/ I'll just stick with what I've been using. Seriously £100 for the de-rivetter? £69 for the case?
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HarpNinja
2080 posts
Jan 17, 2012
10:33 AM
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Wow, not cheap!
Does the Seydel de-riveter work with Hohner rivets (Yes, but not MS)? Eventually, I need to sit down and price out different took kit parts purchased separately.
The real tricky stuff to find are the de-riveter (although taps work really well too) and reed wrenches. Everything else (for tools) can usually be readily found in stores or online.
***In looking through all the materials in the three kits mentioned, the Seydel and Hohner aren't the exact same by any stretch. Does the Seydel even have a reed wrench? I then tried to quickly find all the non-harp specific tools online with little luck. Finding a M1.4 hand tap isn't that easy. One more reason the US should go metric.
In looking at the kits, there is a lot of good stuff there. I prefer the scraper from Richard Sleigh, and have a one-of-a-kind tool from Dick Sjoeberg that makes the harmonica Einstein thing look like a cheap toy. Otherwise, I'd use a lot of that stuff myself (or already do via parting out the pieces).
If you need tools, any of these offer a lot of mileage. That is assuming you have your own embossing tools.
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Mike
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Last Edited by on Jan 17, 2012 11:33 AM
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jim
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Jan 17, 2012
11:37 AM
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@Mike:
yes, it works. Not for old MS harmonicas, but I guess you'd skip those anyway.
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