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walterharp
781 posts
Dec 10, 2011
5:27 PM
Hey all,

From BeelzeBob on this forum a few years back:
You can cluck until a rooster starts humping your leg, but no vibrato will happen until that air stream is right.

Given that vibrato can happen from the diaphragm, throat, mouth, shake, hand whah,, who has the best vibrato on harp... living or dead?
Cristal Lecter
190 posts
Dec 10, 2011
5:40 PM
Another competition bullshit...Walter do you think that music is a competition ? I mean can you measure this?

Let's say that we can translate "the best...." by "the vibrato that is touching you"

I would say (diatonic only since I'm not competent for the chromatic) my top 5 harmonica players that touch me, no particular order, putting the blues tremolo and vibrato all together even if it's not the same thing:

1) Michel Herblin
2) Jean Jacques Milteau
3) Sonny Boy Williamson II (Rice Miller)
4) Paul Butterfield
5) Sonny Terry

(me? ok... I'm already out of this thread :-)

Last Edited by on Dec 10, 2011 5:41 PM
silpakorn
108 posts
Dec 10, 2011
6:02 PM
Just blues players only I think ;

Lee Sankey, Paul Delay & Rick Estrin

These guys do the real vibrato that I'd like to be able to do.

I have to say though that I don't agree with using the term vibrato as a universal term for any kind of technique in that area. Vibrato is vibrato and its existed for hundreds of years, not that I'm sayin it's the best but it's just confusing. The other technique can work very very well for blues like Big Walter's throat staccato (that's how I call it) that works best for shuffle but it just not vibrato.
walterharp
782 posts
Dec 10, 2011
8:17 PM
Well, did not mean as a competition.. and yes terminology is sloppy. Christelle, your vibrato is amazing! Maybe looking for a list of people I should check out and try to emulate from the vibrato point of view?

Here is a point of reference for me.

sammyharp
158 posts
Dec 11, 2011
6:34 AM
I think I'd have to go with Howard Levy on this one. His vibrato is the most vocal vibrato I've heard.
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LSB
115 posts
Dec 11, 2011
7:12 AM
Ugh, I can't stand Aaron Neville's use of vibrato, he over uses it and I find the amplitude harsh, particularly on slow/quiet songs. He has very little variety in the way he executes his vibrato and he uses vibrato on virtually every note long enough to squeeze it in, which I find incredibly grating.

Who has the best vibrato on harp? I'd rather hear opinions on who plays vibrato most tastefully and has the most versatility/variety in their vibrato. Point me in the direction of those players please.
easyreeder
57 posts
Dec 11, 2011
10:47 AM
@LSB, I agree with you about Aaron Neville over-using vibrato, but I think his control is amazing. If I could do that with harp I hope I'd be like the good-guy gunfighter in a western, knowing I was so good I didn't need to pull my gun to prove it.

That said, I think that was the first time I've ever enjoyed hearing Aaron Neville sing. Thanks Walter, I'll pay more attention next time he shows up on my radar.
DirtyDeck
210 posts
Dec 11, 2011
3:19 PM
Big Chester's my favourite, followed by Little Walter.
groyster1
1625 posts
Dec 11, 2011
4:01 PM
@DirtyDeck
yes big chester had great tone and what an awesome vibrato some in this forum thought he over used it but he mixed his great harp playing with great singing and showmanship-hes my fave bluesman of all time
crispyagain
22 posts
Dec 11, 2011
4:43 PM
Gussow has great vibrato...liquid smooth
Todd Parrott
792 posts
Dec 11, 2011
5:34 PM
I always loved Terry McMillan's throat vibrato.
Blown Out Reed
268 posts
Dec 11, 2011
6:11 PM
Best singing vibrato = Aaron Neville

Best harmonica vibrato = John Popper
Hondo
175 posts
Dec 11, 2011
8:36 PM
For me- it's hands down



Rick Shanks
152 posts
Dec 11, 2011
8:45 PM
Lee Oskar / Stevie Wonder / Chris Michalek
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5F6H
1028 posts
Dec 12, 2011
6:55 AM
Big Walter's shimmering vibrato was great, Butterfield (as mentioned) had a great vibrato too.

Sankey, Estrin, Gary Smith, Kim Wilson (1st pos "Trust My Baby" is a good example) & Portnoy (at times) all do the proper "pitch vibrato" as Silpakorn points out...here's the thing, certain techniques suit certain tempos, songs & even parts of the song better, a good pitch vibrato can be milked for all it's worth in slow blues, but on an upbeat number it can be irksome if becomes too "yoy-yoy-yoy-yoy"?

@Dirty Deck - Little Walter didn't really have particularly pronounced or distinctive vibrato, pretty subtle really (not that it's a bad thing), often absent altogether...he did extensively utilise amp vibrato.



Jerry McCain & Arthur Williams' use of Leslie effect on Jewel recordings was pretty cool, but never really seemed to catch on in a big way.





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Last Edited by on Dec 12, 2011 7:53 AM
Willspear
6 posts
Dec 12, 2011
8:57 AM
I really dig Howard levy and Brendan powers vibrato effect. There is a video of the two of them comparing approach on YouTube iirc
silpakorn
110 posts
Dec 13, 2011
4:12 AM
I forgot Paul Lamb



@walterharp, actually I have to thank you to bring this topic up. It's the next thing that I'd like to improve. Is there anybody who can give a tip on a fast pitch vibrato like Paul's ? I think it's the most difficult one.
Oisin
901 posts
Dec 13, 2011
5:42 AM
Buddha had a pretty sweet Vibrato too.
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Miles Dewar
1170 posts
Dec 13, 2011
5:22 PM
I second Chris' vibrato. It was good stuff. Out of the ordinary.
MagicPauley57
117 posts
Dec 13, 2011
6:21 PM
for one i'd go for paul lamb for greta vibrato as well as great showmanship , i only saw him play live once and it was a brilliant night !
i loved the way he would attcak a solo and have this fast vibtrato tail off at the end of a solo and cut it dead , takes the roof of your head off , great stuff!
also , i always loved howlin wolf's tone and vibrato , which comes from sonnyboy ( rice miller) , and not to forget junior wells .
bharper
126 posts
Dec 13, 2011
7:45 PM
Pat Ramsey
The Iceman
188 posts
Dec 14, 2011
8:38 AM
Jerry Portnoy has some of the BIGGEST roundest vibrato I've heard.
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HarpNinja
1999 posts
Dec 14, 2011
9:20 AM
Chris Michalek. It was extremely lyrical and works with any melodic playing. It reminds me of Derek Trucks on slide guitar.

I don't think it is technically hard to execute, but it is damn hard applying it in the right context...at least for me, anyways.

The best I've managed is to consistently apply it to bent notes. I have a hard time not turning it into a more traditional vibrato on other notes.
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Chinaski
207 posts
Dec 14, 2011
9:47 AM
+1 for bharper's Pat Ramsey vote - certainly up there with the best. That solo on King of Fools is a pretty masterful example.

Last Edited by on Dec 14, 2011 10:16 AM
boris_plotnikov
667 posts
Dec 14, 2011
10:43 AM
+1 for Chris Michalek
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barbequebob
1784 posts
Dec 15, 2011
9:48 AM
Wow! No one mentioned James Cotton's signature slow, deep vibrato at all here.
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walterharp
787 posts
Dec 15, 2011
11:15 AM
@willspear i looked around and could not find the levy power vibrato video

thanks for all the suggestions.. i guess one thing is to be a top player you need to have great vibrato.. and all have their own preferences... are there any top players who use essentially no vibrato?
thorvaldsen76
134 posts
Dec 15, 2011
12:48 PM
Personally,I really like Nat Riddles' vibrato..
12gagedan
150 posts
Dec 15, 2011
1:31 PM
My favorite vibrato on harp is Howlin' Wolf. There's this subtle, yet perfect-to-me thing that he gets, but I can't re-create. I love it. Rod Piazza gets close to it during the rare instances that I've seen him play w/o an amp.
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sammyharp
159 posts
Dec 15, 2011
2:37 PM
@ walterharp - Here's the video:



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