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SonnyD4885
72 posts
Aug 18, 2011
5:55 AM
iv met some players that just have bad ego and think there the best. i admit im not the best but im not bad either.
The Iceman
69 posts
Aug 18, 2011
6:05 AM
Lot of gunslinger mentality in the harmonica world.
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JBharmonica
59 posts
Aug 18, 2011
6:20 AM
The worst is meeting a fellow harp player for the first time and he starts talking bad about other harp players...I like the gunslinger analogy!
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RT123
194 posts
Aug 18, 2011
6:29 AM
whats even worse is when they constantly want to talk about what's good, what's bad, what's the best, what's the worst. that gets annoying really quick!
Kingley
1591 posts
Aug 18, 2011
7:01 AM
LOL!
joeleebush
324 posts
Aug 18, 2011
8:54 AM
A controlled, managed, ego is not all together a bad thing.
By that I mean that when on stage you "click into performer/showman mode" and then when you get off the stage you return to just being a pleasant guy.
I was a guest at a big time party once and had the chance to meet Paul Newman. I was smart enough to keep my mouth shut and watch other people talk to him about various things.
First of all...he was the most nondescript person there and many people actually didnt believe it was him.
He did not like to discuss acting, his movies, or any of the hollywood stuff and he gently let people know it too.
He LOVED talking about his auto racing however. Since I know very little about car racing I didnt do much talking except to say that I had always admired his work and that the buffet was very good.
The point being that when we hit that stage, then we become the showman. Whereas when we are off, we are wiser to take a centrist approach unless we're with very close inside friends who know what the game is all about. There is a time and place to be outspoken about crummy performances but we have to pick our spots.
Harry Lorayne, one of the greatest of all magicians and close up sleight of hand workers gave some sage advice once at one of his lectures.
When a performer has died in his act and later asks for your comments, the safest answer is this..."you were never better". That was his advice and I like it.
(Just more of my opinions here.)
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MrVerylongusername
1853 posts
Aug 18, 2011
9:04 AM
That's a great point about turning it on and off for the stage. Kind of like bowie becoming ziggy stardust or Aladdin Sane.

Kind of contradicts what was said in the sexuality thread though.
Honkin On Bobo
731 posts
Aug 18, 2011
9:17 AM
"Kind of contradicts what was said in the sexuality thread though. "


You mean Billy Branch makes those kissy pop noises off stage too?
MrVerylongusername
1854 posts
Aug 18, 2011
9:21 AM
yeah he does...

No the point was argued, that you can't turn it on or off. You've either got it or you haven't. Seems to be the opposite of what Joe Lee is saying here. Maybe I'm missing something?
bharper
25 posts
Aug 18, 2011
9:35 AM
Nobody is the best. I've seen intermediate players who kill on stage, and I've seen highly skilled advanced players (especially over-blowers) who are tiresome and tedious; The audience is bored. There is a lot more to being a good harp player than being a "good" harp player.
joeleebush
325 posts
Aug 18, 2011
9:40 AM
No contradictions on my part.
If you have sexuality you can choose to turn it on or turn it off at will. (you wont be able to fool those women though, they will still come after you when they get a whiff of it).
As for harmonica players watching your act...hah, 98% of them won't have a clue about what they just saw anyway.
One more time on the heralded "Billy Branch video"...
The popping and kissing still looks lame.
Branch, from what I see, still cant read body language or maybe he chooses not to and just doesnt care. Whatever...he is playing to the wrong person though.
The blonde is laughing at him while just to her left is a brunette who is just eating it up...look at her EYES! Check the expression on her face. THAT is where the attention should be going.
If anything else happens, the brunette will let him know...he doesnt have to do a thing. She has already closed the sale for him...all he has to do is take the order.
Love it...
Me
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Honkin On Bobo
733 posts
Aug 18, 2011
9:48 AM
MrV,

Yeah, i was just havin' a little fun with it. But consider this...if there actually existed some course of instruction that guaranteed to make one "sexy" (ie: it's a learnable thing), would not the person offering said instruction be richer than Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and all of the middle east oil sheikdoms combined?

Me thinks that it's like so many other things in life..there are things you can do to improve the situation..like er, personal hygiene? But there's definitely an it factor.

I offer as evidence the guy we all know...barely has a visible means of support, ascerbic personality...looks like he put out a fire on his face with a golf shoe......and gets more ass than a toilet seat.

We all know one of those guys right?
Diggsblues
933 posts
Aug 18, 2011
9:50 AM
I'm a legend in my own my mind.
There may be good evidence that I'm
out of my mind. After hangin' out with
Jimmy Gordon for five days that might be
really true. LOL
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MrVerylongusername
1856 posts
Aug 18, 2011
9:50 AM
@JLB

Perhaps that's just an indication of how shrewd he is! He knows the blonde girl will be leaving with her man, but he's left the other girl waiting at his dressing room door!

Thanks for the clarification. I see your argument now...

If you've got it you can switch it off, but if you haven't, you can't switch it on.

I take the point - not sure if I completely agree, but I'll let it go.

Last Edited by on Aug 18, 2011 9:53 AM
MrVerylongusername
1857 posts
Aug 18, 2011
10:07 AM
@Honkin on Bobo

I think the key here is the difference between "being sexy" whilst going about daily life (and I agree, you'd be a billionaire if you could teach that) and "appearing to be sexy" as part of a stage show.

And to keep it on topic - you could just replace the word "sexy" for "confident" or "egotistical" or whatever and the difference is still there.

Last Edited by on Aug 18, 2011 10:09 AM
toddlgreene
3191 posts
Aug 18, 2011
10:13 AM
"barely has a visible means of support, ascerbic personality...looks like he put out a fire on his face with a golf shoe......and gets more ass than a toilet seat."

Up until the last part, I thought you were singling me out. (Phew...)


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Honkin On Bobo
734 posts
Aug 18, 2011
10:17 AM
C'mon now todd...we all know you were a PLAYA! before you settled down.............fess up!!!!
eharp
1406 posts
Aug 18, 2011
4:59 PM
any cross section of any population will give you the same results.
you dont think there are quite a few accountants that think they are all that?
MagicPauley57
94 posts
Aug 18, 2011
6:17 PM
i must admit , i have the least amount of ego (believe it or not ), i know my strengths and limitations in what instruments i play , i can hold my own and enjoy what i play , the guitarist world is probably even more ego driven in my opinion . and lead singers , well ?
one thing i hate is when some band members think they're too important to be polite to the people that have gone out of thier way to show up to thier gig in the first place .
bonedog569
371 posts
Aug 18, 2011
6:59 PM
Music and Blues especially is about ego, confidence, sexuality - and then hopefully trancending all of the above. Ya gotta start out with some confidence though. Some people are just assholes and they often come with big egos - that's another matter.

@bharper - I like that. As we all know - technique, theory and 'chops' dont necessarily combine to make good soulfull music. It never hurts to have em, but having them doesn't nec. make you worth listening to.
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Last Edited by on Aug 18, 2011 6:59 PM
Miles Dewar
1069 posts
Aug 18, 2011
9:49 PM
Joe,

There was a contradiction. You "Seemed" to have concluded that people cannot fake sexuality. But now you are saying you can turn it on and off. If a person in control of "Sexuality" is able to "turn it off" there is Obviously a set of measurable underlying actions that are Implying "Sexuality". Actions that the controller is Concious of.

If one who has "sexuality" can be concious of the actual things that cause a display of sexuality, I find it rather difficult to believe that someone without the knowledge cannot study and apply it.
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....and moving from the blonde to the brunnette will help him how?


Explain in detail HOW the brunette would have made a Measureable difference to make the show better, more successful or helped Billy's career?

The man is killing it. Still. Where are You at?

Last Edited by on Aug 18, 2011 9:51 PM
nacoran
4468 posts
Aug 18, 2011
10:05 PM
I've certainly seen young ladies who look rather mousy one day and drop dead gorgeous the next. Of course, as far as I'm concerned just having a girl pay you a little attention, and they can turn that on and off

(I didn't mean that to sound as forlorn as it did.)


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Aug 21, 2011
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