Pluto
153 posts
Jul 22, 2011
3:56 PM
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FYI,
I just received a notice from the attorney handling Chris M's
estate. They've filed for bankruptcy protection. They will not returning any deposits. I'm not sure about harmonica's, completed or otherwise. A valuable lesson learned here.
Pluto, out $700
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ReedSqueal
179 posts
Jul 22, 2011
5:23 PM
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I just received that notice too. Money will obviously never be seen again, but I too was wondering about the harps. I'd even be willing to send a pre-paid shipping label to whomever might be handling hardware to get harps back.
I hate to think that all those harps on the bench would be shit-canned.
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toddg
75 posts
Jul 22, 2011
7:06 PM
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It sucks to lose a loved one , But that's no reason for his wife not to do the right thing and ship back peoples cash or harmonica's ,if the person has proof .Email Etc showing they sent Chris something .It's interesting she has the money to pay a attorney but not pay anyone else . Makes you think what might happen with Harrison B Rad Company
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Greg Heumann
1189 posts
Jul 22, 2011
7:22 PM
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I sent Chris an Ultimate mic shortly before he passed. I was to get a harp in trade. Wonder what happened to that mic...?
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12gagedan
104 posts
Jul 22, 2011
8:55 PM
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It's such a tragedy. Not one that Chris or anyone could have planned for. One must chalk it up to bad luck, I suppose.
If anyone is so inclined/motivated to organize a collection, I'd gladly contribute. Some kind of financial tribute/gesture might help his widow, and also encourage her to part with the harps on his bench. It's just an idea. . .
I'm sure every part of him is precious to her, even if it's paid-for harps laying on the bench.
Life is short, fellas. Live like you mean it.
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rharley5652
530 posts
Jul 23, 2011
12:12 AM
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Those paid-for harps are not laying on the bench anymore.
Thats a given when the attorney handling Chris M's
estate sent those letters out .
Makes sense to me ,.as Chris did not have a Son,. Daughter or Wife nor a Partner is his business / hobby of building Harmonics !
His wife has no Idea,.
as to who's harmonica / microphone belongs to whom !
Have you ever heard of estate sale ,..everything is gone I'd bet !!
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jim
933 posts
Jul 23, 2011
12:14 AM
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I saw his instruments from the inside. He did not sign the reedplates - so I guess it's rather complicated to find out who those harmonicas should be shipped to.
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rharley5652
531 posts
Jul 23, 2011
12:16 AM
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@ Jim,.Do you have this problem Covered??
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jim
934 posts
Jul 23, 2011
1:33 AM
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No, I would never buy anything from Chris...
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nacoran
4353 posts
Jul 23, 2011
2:41 AM
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A sad lesson in this is if you run a small business and you want to do right by your customers in the event of your untimely demise, especially if you are running on cash on hand, make sure you have an insurance plan in place specifically to cover winding down your business.
I guess we never think it will happen to us. He was my age. I can't say I'm in better shape either. :(
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LIP RIPPER
460 posts
Jul 23, 2011
3:43 AM
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This is disappointing. I guess I'm very lucky to have gotten mine back. You know, Chris would write your name on the box of the harp. So there were a lot of boxes with names on them I am sure. Given the amount of outstanding orders he had there were probably many harps that he had not yet starting working on. When I talked to Laurie I told her that many members here were interested in getting their harps no matter what stage they were in. She said that Chris had a friend there in Gilbert that was going to help her sort them out after she had time to greive. She said it was difficult at that time to even walk in the shop since that is where she found him lying on the floor.
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belfast_harper
265 posts
Jul 23, 2011
4:10 AM
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The harp that I got from Chris has my name written on the reed plates.
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harpdude61
921 posts
Jul 23, 2011
4:35 AM
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My buddha Harps have my name on the boxes and on the reedplates.
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Diggsblues
913 posts
Jul 23, 2011
11:27 AM
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Knowing Chris if he new this was gonna happen he would have put stuff in place to fulfill his responsibilities. Now others have stepped in to
take care of his affairs. I believe you file with
the court and maybe you get pennies on the dollar
for your loss. I would call the county or state were the filing was made to see what your rights are.
I think it's time to lay this to rest and make it OT.
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rharley5652
532 posts
Jul 23, 2011
2:23 PM
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@ Jim ,..
what I was askin was if you have someone to take over in the event of your untimely demise,.
I know your workbench is always on full !!
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jim
935 posts
Jul 23, 2011
2:33 PM
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I don't have a habit of getting $10K worth of orders...
I like to take my time, make instruments that I want and how I want them and put them on sale. Take it or leave it.
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LIP RIPPER
461 posts
Jul 23, 2011
3:14 PM
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Well, the attorneys are involved. That is why it has came to this and that's too bad.
And Jim,I can't believe you would take something like this to use for your self promotion. On second thought maybe I can.
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Diggsblues
916 posts
Jul 23, 2011
3:27 PM
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This is so so sad it dishonors The Man It dishonors this list.
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jim
936 posts
Jul 23, 2011
3:47 PM
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Ron asked a question. I answered.
I never self-promote myself. I don't need more orders.
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Diggsblues
917 posts
Jul 23, 2011
5:31 PM
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@Jim please take it off list.Chris is gone let's not
dishonor his memory.
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The Iceman
39 posts
Jul 23, 2011
5:49 PM
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Even though we, in this small pond, find harmonicas to be important, the other world (big pond) doesn't think much of our instrument. Can you imagine a lawyer handling these matters becoming concerned over a bunch of harmonicas (no matter how good a tech that Chris was)?
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Oso
48 posts
Jul 23, 2011
6:03 PM
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Thanks diggsblues!! Chris was a good friend of mine and to be honest this thread was starting to make me mad with some of the comments that have been made.
Oso
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Joe_L
1371 posts
Jul 23, 2011
6:11 PM
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How does the truth dishonor his memory? It doesn't make him less of a player. If anything, it should be a something that consumers should be conscious of when dealing with small business people.
It's not like he skipped town with the dough. He passed away unexpectedly and was by most accounts a decent and honest person.
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joeleebush
297 posts
Jul 23, 2011
8:27 PM
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To Joe L..
Watch out man, you're using logic mixed with reality. That can get you in hot water around here.
"Mean spirited" again, you know.
Regards,
Me
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apskarp
516 posts
Jul 23, 2011
10:01 PM
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I had still some tools that I never got from him but that I paid for. It was something like 150e but it's just a small matter compared to somebody loosing her husband & father suddenly.
I would feel like a complete idiot to disturb somebody who didn't have anything to do with this deal, about these matters. In fact, I never made any official deal on a paper with Chris either. I just paid for him and trusted he will deliver based on his reputation.
Just let it go. I will just hope that his wife will get a decent price for all those tools, harps etc she will eventually get rid of. Perhaps somebody with the skills will buy those all make good harps for players. I wish these threads would just be locked and send to oblivion.
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harpdude61
924 posts
Jul 24, 2011
3:03 AM
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Nothing about this thread was meant to dishonor Chris. People in the same boat are communicating and trying to figure out if they can get harps.
Anyone in Pluto's shoes would respectfully inquire.
$700 is a significant amount of money to a lot of us.
If these threads bothered me I would not read them.
Keep in mind every customer was not a good friend. I would not ask my best friends wife for $700 if he passes and owed me....but a business man that I had talked to or e-mailed once or twice?.....hello
I agree with Joe L.
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hvyj
1599 posts
Jul 24, 2011
6:38 AM
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The day before he passed I got an email from Chris saying that my key of B GM Buddha harp had just been shipped. This would have been the last harp to complete a 12 harp set of customs. It never arrived.
Now, this was not the first time Chris had told me a harp had been shipped that for one reason or another didn't go out until later. Chris was a great guy, but he had a lot of irons in the fire and I suspect he was not all that well organized.
I had some combs and another harp on order, too, and everything had been paid for in advance
I decided not to worry about the other harp and the combs, but I really wanted the B GM in order to complete my set. B is an infrequently used key, so I figured it might be easy to find if it had been completed or was close to completion. So after waiting a respectful time I sent an email and eventually a followup email. I got nice replies each time basically assuring me that everything would be taken care of eventually. But, at this point, I haven't heard anything further and i assume I never will. For me, it's a closed issue.
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nacoran
4367 posts
Jul 24, 2011
12:08 PM
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I'm going to ask everyone on this thread a favor. It seems that some people have unfinished issues with Chris's estate. Since a lot of people knew Chris through this forum and a lot of people are having the same issue this thread topic seems appropriate. At the same time it's going to bring up a lot of sad memories for his friends.
In the interest of peace, can people reread each post they make and try to keep it narrowly focused on the issue at hand. For people who are offended by this thread, I am sorry, but I think it's an important thread for some people.
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jim
940 posts
Jul 24, 2011
12:13 PM
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You don't have to read everything if you're so sensitive.
The problem discussed is purely commercial. It needs to be solved.
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timeistight
110 posts
Jul 24, 2011
12:30 PM
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I am not a lawyer, but it seems to me that the commercial problem has been solved. The estate is in bankruptcy. I doubt if anyone is particularly happy about that solution, but it's probably the best one possible under the circumstances.
As to any unfinished harmonicas etc. left on his workbench, I don't see how his wife could legally send them to anyone. They are part of the estate and, as such, should be disposed of by the trustee.
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rharley5652
533 posts
Jul 24, 2011
12:50 PM
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@ Jim ,.Thanks ,.Sorry if my question was outta line ,.I believe it was a valid question.
"@ Jim ,..
what I was askin was if you have someone to take over in the event of your untimely demise,.
I know your workbench is always on full !!
How your answer turned into self promotion to some,.I have no clue??
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Blues13
127 posts
Jul 24, 2011
12:54 PM
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I don't know Chris or is family,never done business with him didn't even talk with him on the forum. The whay I see it in less than a year a wife as lost her husband and now it's bankruptcy she might have prefered just losing some money instead.
It's not fun to lose money but put yourself in her shoes. people being sensitive with this thread might be friends that see it this way.
On the legal side it's your wright to try to do something to get your money or harps. In this case contact the lawyers. Not trying to pick a fight just sharing my point of view.
Now lets pray for our brother MP's lost and back to the woodshed.
Martin
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AirMojo
180 posts
Jul 24, 2011
1:01 PM
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Its the risk you take "doing" business with private individuals... shit happens... alot... get over it !
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6SN7
179 posts
Jul 24, 2011
9:39 PM
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I am sadden to see these threads about Buddha come up. The estate has been taken over by probate and the bankruptcy kills any prospect of getting your stuff back. I would find it hard to believe that the harp business is what pushed the estate into bankruptcy. You can't blame his wife for not dealing with the harps as she is probably trying to keeping her house, car, sanity. I hope the moderators stop posting these Buddha threads as stupid stuff ends up being said and starts it.
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Cristal Lecter
78 posts
Jul 24, 2011
10:39 PM
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You guys all know what was the nature of my relationship with Chris, but for God sake!! Stop this pathetic and outrageous comments on having your money back. Have you ever learn somewhere somehow to be responsible of your action? Have you ever been educated in the sense of being elegant and being gentlemen instead of polluting the air of a woman, who most certainly struggle after losing her husband?
A little bit of decency would be appreciated
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Andrew
1392 posts
Jul 24, 2011
10:53 PM
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You can give a builder a $10,000 deposit in the morning and he can file for bankruptcy in the afternoon as a mere accounting formality. A man dying in his Thirties and leaving you $200 out of pocket isn't in the same league. Sense of perspective.
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