waltertore
1332 posts
May 13, 2011
9:11 AM
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I have been in a struggle with the world of music since the day I started. From the jump I was told I couldn't spontaneously create my music. I have fought this battle for almost 40 years now. Also the whole competition, jelously, lying, clique scenes, that dominate the music scene (when you get into full time), were ongoing struggles for me. I have always been the man out, looking in on the boys club of doing music the standard way. I have fought, cried, screamed, cursed, countless times over the years with this frustration. I have been my only booking agent, had my own label, fronted the band, was the press agent, and any other role that was needed to keep playing. Man, that wore me out and I quit playing gigs. I have seen countless music friends die, go mental, and most of the ones that are still alive struggle day to day with finance, relationships, addiction, mental health. For whatever reasons I was pulled to teaching special education. Now 15 years into this exile, other than a few gigs here and there when the scene is right and I am asked and payed well, I feel no anger or disapointment. What a feeling this is!
For the past few years, what has dominated my most every thought most of my life, why can't the world accept my way of doing music, has been dissapating slowly. Today it hit me- I AM A FREE MAN!! I really feel no need anymore to create a nitch for how I do music. I bought some really nice recording gear the other day and the recording quality of my stuff has jumped up noticably (at least to my ears). Also my best childhood friend of 45 years spent a week with us. We have lived apart for about 20 of these years but have always stayed in close touch. We both realized how much of life has passed with us dealing in negative energy. I have been happily married for 31 years, have a great job, a few good friends, health, my own studio that gets better equippted each year, some great animals, and it is time to enjoy these things without the negative juice of the music struggle. It was very enlighting to be able to proccess this with such a true friend and realize that all my musical wishes have come true. I wished for; to learn directly from the blues greats, find my own sound, and have somewhere to play it where I am completely comfortable. I found all these along the journey (have that comfortable place in my studio). My studio is as good as it gets, so much that I am not at all motivated to play out unless it is a listening room and I can call the shots. I get to walk 30 feet from the house to the studio that has a full bath, bed, cable, net, kitchen, central air/heat, pro gear, great instruments. Inside it I travel through time and space and land in places in another dimension that have great audiences. Songs never seem to stop flowing out of me in it. I record it, share it,get to sleep in my own bed, and don't leave my wife for months on end. No travel, bad sound systems, bad audiences, and basically none of the problems that plauge one playing gigs on the road.....
Now I feel like man freed from prison and breathing the free/fresh air for the first time in years. I am a lot closer to dying than being born and am thankful for getting to this point. Music is my life. Music business is not. Very simple really- I play for myself and leave it at that. Life is a true gift. Walter
---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Hobostubs Ashlock
1519 posts
May 13, 2011
10:27 AM
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Grasshopper went up to the the BIG Mosquito,And said Master I have perfected my Kung -fu,The kung -fu that those other bugs say aint right,I have got my moves down,I dont have to go to the Tourny's to compete,Im out of the Rat race,with those other varmits,Yes I have my own Dojo,to train my New Grasshopper Kung -fu,My way Im am free from them and there ways.free to be me,In my own way in my own time,They cant disturbe me,cause im free from all that,Im To do with my Grasshopper Kung -fu as I see,Yes Im free,UMM Said Big Mosquito,I see;-) ---------- Hobostubs
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Hobostubs Ashlock
1520 posts
May 13, 2011
10:28 AM
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just kidding ;-) ;-) ---------- Hobostubs
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waltertore
1333 posts
May 13, 2011
10:37 AM
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Hobostubs: That kind of says it all! You would not believe how many thousands of hours I have spent trying to fit in the music world with how I do music. Such a waste of energy some would say but I realize it was essential energy that was needed to get to the point I am at right now! Life is a one way dead end street. We only move closer to death. There is no turning around, stopping, or changing the end of the road. Hopefully we figure out how to enjoy the wonders of life before we hit the end. Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Hobostubs Ashlock
1521 posts
May 13, 2011
10:43 AM
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;-) ---------- Hobostubs
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Fingers
41 posts
May 13, 2011
11:37 AM
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I spent 12 years playing in smoke filled bars and clubs!(i don't smoke) at the end i was thinking why am i doing this for a few pounds pocket money? yes the female attention was nice!! but the enjoyment of just playing was waning, well the other day at work one of the guys brought in a cheap harp! the kind you can get in a toy shop c-h-e-a-p now people new i used to play but never heard me so they kept saying come on fingers show us what you got! so with much reluctance i played....Stone fox chase! well when i had finished this room full of very outspoken workmates went silent and burst into spontaneous applause! now that was a moment i will remember...brought back the enjoyment of playing!!
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waltertore
1334 posts
May 13, 2011
12:32 PM
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Cool for you Fingers! Like you, my co workers know little to nothing of my music backround- 20 solid years playing full time around the world, 20 part time, and learning from the greats firsthand. I kind of like it that way because people not in the business tend to romanticize it all and I am not a liar :-) Also like you, I never smoked and didn't mess with the drugs alcohol much. You would be amazed at how many famous bands, platinum records, lucartive contracts, multi million dollar tours, came about because the participants all were into the same drugs. Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Fingers
42 posts
May 13, 2011
12:47 PM
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So true Walter...what great memories you must have good and bad!!! and still the pleasure of playing for friends and family...life is good!!
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Andy Ley
116 posts
May 13, 2011
1:33 PM
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Congratulations Walter; Sounds like you've just come out the other side of your quarter life crisis.
You are going to live to a ripe old age :)
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waltertore
1335 posts
May 13, 2011
5:35 PM
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Hi Andy: If I just made the quater life crisis passage, I better hurry up cause I am pushing the 60 years on this earth :-) Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Seven.Oh.Three.
65 posts
May 13, 2011
6:47 PM
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Note- this has nothing to do with the above postings. But it di make me think of Walter.
I've been working on keeping beat with everything I'm listening to. I've found one thing I really like in most bles us a driving beat from taping or stomping your foot. But, being musically challenged, I've had a very difficult time doing so. I pin pointed my beat keeping problem today. I was WORKING to hard. I'd start up alright and somewhere along the way get lost and frustrated. I figured the reason I was able to start off so well was because I was "letting it happen" and once I was aware if what was going on I managed to eff it all up. SO, my new approach is the same as Walters, I'm now focusing by not focusing and just letting it happen.
And this I owe to Walter, Thanks again!
7.0.3.
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waltertore
1336 posts
May 13, 2011
8:04 PM
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7 0h 3: I am happy my way of doing music was of some inspiration! Keep going on that road. It will lead you on journies that a thinking approach never will. Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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yogi
58 posts
May 15, 2011
2:00 AM
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How many more times we got to read you have been making spontaneous music for 40 years and rejected by the music industry, you got a job teaching special ed, you got a studio at home and you make 10 cd's a day.
We get it Walter.
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Jagrowler
52 posts
May 15, 2011
2:56 AM
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Hey yogi - I like happy eccentrics, they make me smile. Share the love, yogi, share the love!
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arzajac
514 posts
May 15, 2011
4:23 AM
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Yogi's jealous.
Nothing wrong with that - so am I...
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waltertore
1339 posts
May 15, 2011
4:45 AM
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yogi: sorry to upset you. I don't think many people get the journey I have been on. To be on a new road is a wonderful thing but also such a struggle. Try going into a major label/booking agents office/club/festival/magazine/newspaper/radio station/tv station and tell them you spontaneously make everything up as you go along see what happens. Try getting together with other musicians and tell them that is how you do music and see what happens. Try telling an audience memeber you don't do cover songs, not even your own. Heck try talking about this on these forums and see what happens. Then try sitting down and actually doing this at every performance, everytime you pick up an instrument.
It is a very isolating experience in the flesh yet at the same time a very freeing experience in the spirit. It connects me with the universe of time and space. So many spirits are there that I never feel alone when I play, yet I play lately almost always in isolation from people alive today. Last nights recordings were interesting. I felt hendrix and jim morrison come into my songs. Then they got bumped out by a sea of dead bluesmen. I am going to mix them in a few minutes. This stuff never happens to me doing a rehearsed song. The more I accept this new turn in my journey, the more exciting it gets. As of this moment, I have no sadness over not playing out right now. This is new ground for me. Most of my life I defined myself as a player of music and doing it in public places.
New ideas upset many people. That makes me sad because there is so much new ground to be explored but our culture discourages it so strongly that we end up with the commerical music/art scene of today (I include blues and most any music that has industry support in this). I am at a reflection point in my life and as I reflect I can see how hard I worked to pull off playing full time for 20 years. That brings a smile to my face. It was my training ground for getting to where I am today. My music is my life and I no longer need to legitimize this in my mind by seeing dates on the calendar. Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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thorvaldsen76
111 posts
May 15, 2011
6:51 AM
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Walter:
I have so much respect for you! You dare to do what you want to do,no matter what everybody else thinks. And I don't give a damn how many times you let people know about your spontobeat or your job! To me,your stories are much more interesting than custom-harp this and custom-comb that!
I love what you do,and please,keep on doin' it!
Kent Erik
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waltertore
1342 posts
May 15, 2011
7:14 AM
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thanks thorvaldsen76 for those words of support! I realize anytime I post on the net it potentially attracts people that get angry with how I do music. That is ok with me. I know music led me to teaching mentally retarded students because they see the world in much the same way I do. they see it as an endlessly creative, kind, warm, loving, place. Their problem is the world has no real place for them because their cognitive abilities are not high enough to produce profits. My problem is my cognitive abilities are high enough to get sidetracked from these essentially wonderful parts of life. When I am doing my music I am right dead on that spot of love/kindness/creativety but when I put the music down my mind tends to take over and that has been my struggle. Dealing with my peers and administrators is a much less pleasurable experience than with my students. They tend to see the can't instead of the cans. In fact they have almost a knee jerk need to crush creativety. Being with my students I learn everyday more about having the faith to believe in dreams and let them guide my life. It brought me to this population and them to me! Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Hobostubs Ashlock
1523 posts
May 15, 2011
8:03 AM
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My Granpa used to tell me stories over and over again,He's been gone a few years now and I would give anything to hear them again.Keep them comming Walter.;-) ---------- Hobostubs
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Blind Leroy
11 posts
May 15, 2011
2:19 PM
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You're doing your own thing and that works for you. I think we all can appreciate that. Perhaps what bothers some is the fact that you try to make it sound like some big enlightening spiritual awakening that somehow we're all missing out on, and only you "get". Personally I have a need to play music for others, not just myself.
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pistolero
129 posts
May 15, 2011
2:31 PM
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"Try going into a major label/booking agents office/club/festival/magazine/newspaper/radio station/tv station and tell them you spontaneously make everything up as you go along see what happens. Try getting together with other musicians and tell them that is how you do music and see what happens. Try telling an audience memeber you don't do cover songs, not even your own. Heck try talking about this on these forums and see what happens. Then try sitting down and actually doing this at every performance, everytime you pick up an instrument."
The title of the thread is "I'm truely free from the monkey on my back!" If that's true I'm glad for you. But from the quote above I have to question if that's really true.
I don't think anyone is "angry" about how you make your music. I think what yogi and others are getting at is you say you are going to play what you play no matter what everyone thinks (nothing wrong with that) but at the same time you rail against "the industry" because they won't buy into "your thing". They haven't bought it, they won't buy it. Accept it.
I admire anyone who can do the work you do with the kids Walter.
---------- It's MUSIC, not just complicated noise.
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waltertore
1343 posts
May 15, 2011
4:55 PM
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Things get so taken out of context on this net........ People love to discuss the creation of a new movement once its founders are dead and it has been homoginized by the industry but while they are alive are often shamed for pursuing a new road. I am not posting here to defend how and why I do my music. I am here to share my journey to hopefully inspire someone else out there that is doing their art in a different way, may be interested in learning more about spontaneously created music, and to hopefully meet someone(s) else who spontaneously create their music in a roots music groove. Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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pistolero
130 posts
May 15, 2011
5:44 PM
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"People love to discuss the creation of a new movement once its founders are dead and it has been homoginized by the industry"
Yep there's "the industry" again. "The Industry" is a money making machine. They take music and sell it to people and make money for themselves and the artists. Lots of money being made by talented and not so talented folks nowadays.
If they don't think your music will sell, they will have no interest in investing in marketing it. They have no reason to believe your music will sell. "We'll sell millions of CD's of this guy. He will never play any of it for the fans live, and if they ever do see him play anything live, they won't recognize any of the music because he never does anything that's been done before, it's all improvised." If you can't see why this is not a commercially viable enterprise maybe the problem is you and not the industry. As much as you think that's the only way to go (and for you it is) that in itself is no reason anyone will pay money for it. There are tons of people out there with good inventions that will never see the light of day because no matter how much they "know" it will sell billions of units once it's in production, they need someone with the means to produce it and those people won't make it unless they see a good chance it will make money.
If only the music matters and you have proven you can make it without them, what else do you have to prove?
Again, we all can sympathize with your lot, and yes there are always artists whose genius is not appreciated until they are gone. BUT if you want to keep preaching you don't care what "the industry" thinks or wants, and that monkey is off your back, act like it, and let it go!
---------- It's MUSIC, not just complicated noise.
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Blind Leroy
12 posts
May 15, 2011
9:04 PM
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>>Again, we all can sympathize with your lot, and yes there are always artists whose genius is not appreciated until they are gone. BUT if you want to keep preaching you don't care what "the industry" thinks or wants, and that monkey is off your back, act like it, and let it go<<
Stated with much more eloquence than I can muster up. In other words, Walter - if you're happy with what you do, great. But puleeeze, give it a rest on this forum and give us a break with the sermons about "the industry".
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Oisin
797 posts
May 15, 2011
9:33 PM
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hey Guys back off on Walter...he's one of the good guys on this Forum. He's entitled to his opinion and from the posts I've read of his he doesn't bang an anti music industry drum all the time. Walter's lived a life that's brought him in touch with people we'd only dream of meeting. I would value his opinion more than most people on this forum as he's lived the life.
I'm glad you've reached a breakthrough with your life Walter. Stay happy. ---------- Oisin
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Kyzer Sosa
976 posts
May 15, 2011
10:59 PM
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i dont know, man... if all i had were 12 posts on a forum, and two of em were to say how tired i was of reading something someone says, i might consider just not saying anything altogether. ---------- Kyzer's Travels Kyzer's Artwork
"Music in the soul can be heard by the universe." - Lao Tzu
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waltertore
1345 posts
May 16, 2011
4:49 AM
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I appreciate being able to explore my journey here and the support people have give me. Not playing full time anymore has created a space for reflection. I am realizing just how much harder I had to work to get a gig, record deal, article written, etc. Pioneering a new way of doing something requires a complete dedication to it. There is no other road to cruise on that was built by others. Each step of the road must be dug out, paved, marked, etc.. I was basically on 24/7 tunnel vision for 30 plus years and am now sort of coming back to earth.
I hold no ill feelings towards the music industry. It was just my life was imeshed with it for 30 odd years. I also realize these forums attract all sorts of people and hold no ill feelings towards any that get irritated by my story. I think many of these people lack the inspiration in their soul that is so strong that they follow it blindly. People often tell me they admire my willingness to do it my way. In reality I have no choice. What are my options? To do it any other way would be so depressing I doubt I could continue to live.
I lived the life of a bluesman. I had nothing but my music. No kids, steady job, security, home ownership, moved countless times around the world, was homeless (but got to sleep on many a great bluesmans couches!), was lied to more times than I can remember by industry people, and generally dealt with more dysfunction than I could ever tolerate today. Also I had a driving passion that made all these things of no real consequence at the time and met so many wonderful people along the way that the good times far outwiegh the bad ones. I am just realizing what an all consuming experience it was. To walk blindly is a great experience and I pray I never stop doing it. No conclusions on my part other than it was a great experience and I am enjoying this transition to where I don't know! That is Spontobeat! Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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yogi
59 posts
May 16, 2011
5:22 AM
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My comments were not as deep as this seems to have got. My ears were weary of the same points being made.
This is not to say that the rest of the stories walter tells are not of interest. They certainly are. Things I have never done and can never do I love to hear about.
Kind of like as a kid, all the stories began 'once upon a time'. I would grow weary of this and close many books no doubt missing out on some good stories.
I view John Grisham the same.
Walter, I will always enjoy reading new things from you should you cjhoose to share. I just dont want to hear the '40 years doing this rejected' thing in every post. Purely a personal thing. Dont suppose i'm right.
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Blind Leroy
13 posts
May 16, 2011
6:36 PM
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>>I just dont want to hear the '40 years doing this rejected' thing in every post. Purely a personal thing. Dont suppose I'm right.<<
Actually, yeah, you are RIGHT.
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walterharp
600 posts
May 16, 2011
7:15 PM
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this is moving toward material in violation of forum creed
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Seven.Oh.Three.
66 posts
May 16, 2011
9:19 PM
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Moving toward? Pretty sure that line has been crossed. It pretty typical for people who aren't content with themselves to try to bring others to their level.
Really people? Here's an idea: if you're really that "tired" of hearing what Walter is saying, don't read his posts. It's actually a really easy concept to understand and utilize.
I've been watching this thread and holding back, knowing I'm still "A new guy". But is it realy necessary to gang up and rag on one persons life experiences? Regardless of how many times he's posted it?
Grow up. Skip a post. Life goes on.
7.o.3.
Edited for spelling
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Jagrowler
54 posts
May 17, 2011
1:17 AM
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@walterharp - I agree. The pack are moving in for a kill.
Run waltertore, run, run for your life!
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captainbliss
550 posts
May 17, 2011
2:36 AM
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@pistolero, @Blind Leroy, @yogi:
Did (do?) your experiences as full-time working musicians differ from waltertore's? You didn't (don't?) encounter similar frustrations / challenges / setbacks? Didn't (doesn't?) the industry's appeal to the lowest common denominator get you down? Not even sometimes? Was (is?) your music more mainstream, more commercially viable? I'd love to hear your stories. For that matter, I'd love to hear your music, too..
xxx
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waltertore
1346 posts
May 17, 2011
4:01 AM
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Much of the gist of the responses that are upset with what I say are a great mcrocosim of my dealings with the music industry and a wonderful opportunity for me to grow as a person by dealing with it differently than I did in the past. I spent way too much of my energy continuing in such relationships with hope they would come to see my musicial approach as a viable one. All the while they offered me temptation (money and potential fame) if I would get with their people and fall in line with the rest of the music world. I wish I could have known how to communicate in a less emotional way back then but it was my life, and I was young. Instead I got mad, hurt, and either told them to drop dead or I would make it without them. I understand why most pros don't post on these forums. They are predominantly full of people that do music for a hobby and unfortuantely there are way too many frustrated souls on them that keep them away. The music world is a different universe when you are making a living via it and even more different when you are doing music in a way that is different than the standard. It is great getting older and being able to reflect on this stuff. My door is always open to the industry if they let me in for who I am. Walter
---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
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Hobostubs Ashlock
1524 posts
May 17, 2011
6:32 AM
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Hey we dont want you anyway but how you are Walter,But I dont think we have to worry about you being anybody but yourself.;-) ---------- Hobostubs
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Blind Leroy
14 posts
May 17, 2011
9:28 AM
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>I spent way too much of my energy continuing in such relationships with hope they would come to see my musicial approach as a viable one<
Well, It's pretty obvious that it's viable to you. But how could it possibly be viable to the music industry (which still seems to be a major point to you) or anyone else? Please explain this, so I can really understand what I'm missing here.
You can't sell CD's because you never play the same songs in a live situation (or at any other point in time) that you would have recorded on a CD. I suppose this would also rule out selling DVD's or getting any kind of radio play, etc. In a live concert type setting, how could a promoter or anyone in the audience know what to expect from you when you don't even know what you're doing yourself until the mic is in your face?
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waltertore
1348 posts
May 17, 2011
9:40 AM
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thanks Hobostubs!
Blind Leroy: I sell cds all the time at gigs, via mail orders, and the same for dvds of my performances. People buy them knowing they are not going to hear them performed live. They understand the concept which is when you see walter tore, you get a unique performance each time. It is influenced by the audience more than anything. This brings the audience to a new level of involvement with live music performance. I am not saying this is better or worse than the traditional way music is done, but just different. I am pioneering a new way to do music and I will be till the day I die. I have no other persons coatails to ride on . If I do Sweet home chicago I have a million coat tails from robert johnson on to the present days players like buddy guys coat tails to ride on. FYI I have had lots of support over the years from some of the biggest names in blues and rock and roll. That will always mean a lot to me and was a big part of keeping me inspired to book 200+ gigs a year for 20 plus years. Knowing guys like Bob Dylan are fans of mine, and continuing to share my musical concept with others, keeps me inspired to this day! Walter ---------- walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year. " life is a daring adventure or nothing at all" - helen keller 2,800+ of my songs
continuous streaming - 200 most current songs
my videos
Last Edited by on May 17, 2011 10:24 AM
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pistolero
135 posts
May 17, 2011
9:54 AM
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Well we're happy for you, Walter!
---------- It's MUSIC, not just complicated noise.
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toddlgreene
2978 posts
May 17, 2011
12:02 PM
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This thread has an ugly undertone. Yogi, Pistolero and Blind Leroy-you aren't forced to read or respond to anything on this forum. You're going out of your way to be negative. If you can't add something positive to something you have read, stop reading it or just press on to something else-it's really quite simple.
Okay, I'm taking my moderator hat back off so I can continue planning my HCH trip. Please play nice. ---------- Todd
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Blind Leroy
15 posts
May 17, 2011
12:09 PM
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I don't think it was anything ugly or negative when I said please explain this, so I can understand. I thought that was a legitimate question. geez.
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yogi
60 posts
May 17, 2011
12:22 PM
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@ todd,
I had hoped that my subsequent post had addressed my initially grumpy comment. No undertones there at all, very open in my thoughts which are as simple and shallow as i made them.
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pistolero
136 posts
May 17, 2011
1:38 PM
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@ captainbliss, I have never been a full time musician. I've only been noodlin' on a harp for a few months and I've never claimed otherwise. @ toddlegreen, I wasn't being negative at all.
I am not "upset" or "angry" at anything waltertore has said. I was just trying to help, believe it or not. I will admit that I am only more confused the more he posts. The title of the thread, again, is the monkey's off of his back. He's played music his whole adult life, and apparently had a blast doing it, played and partied with people lots of us would love to just meet. Hell that's awesome. Just in this thread though it's gone from "I AM A FREE MAN" to "you try it and see what happens" to "I have had lots of support over the years from some of the biggest names in blues and rock and roll."
Walter if you are happy, I'm happy for ya brother. If you're not then change something. If you aren't going to be happy until the whole world is happy with you, you just ain't gonna be happy.
Don't worry mods I have nothing else to say about this and I will go out of my way never to even give the appearance of being negative about waltertore.
NOW. I'm going to go out and really be unique and original. I'm giving up the harp. I will invent my own instruments with their own sounds. It won't even BE BLUES, because it's outside of your ability to "label" music. I will leave you all to be part of the herd, just riding the coattails of blues players who have gone before, trapped in the confines of a style (the blues), and never know the joy of doing your own thing.
---------- It's MUSIC, not just complicated noise.
Last Edited by on May 17, 2011 1:42 PM
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