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nacoran
4047 posts
Apr 22, 2011
12:17 PM
There is something funny going on on the second page of the kick in the arp page. It keeps freezing Chrome on me (not just the page but the whole instance of Chrome). It happens as I scroll down the page. I've checked other sites and other pages and it only seems to be this one page. It loads and runs fine in Explorer (well, as fine as a page ever loads in explorer. It's too wide and really slow.)

So, first off, are any of my Chromies having the same problem?

Second, I don't even know what code to look for. Everyone is trying to get their file to play, so there is all sorts of new HTML on the page. Page 1 of the Kick in the Arp page seems to work fine.

Any ideas? I noticed at least one new player type I hadn't seen before.


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oldwailer
1591 posts
Apr 22, 2011
12:27 PM
I just checked it out in my FireFox--works OK--but getting a little glitchy--just too many of those little player thingies trying to load at the same time I think.

Seems like only Chrome users are having trouble--might be time to try the Fox? ;)
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sorin
275 posts
Apr 22, 2011
12:43 PM
nacoran , I tried it on chrome and I got the same result. I think the code that crashes the browser is Bronzewailer's post.

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nacoran
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Apr 22, 2011
12:48 PM
<embed src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26955323/funky%20blues%20trimmed.wma" width="350" height="40" autostart="false" type="audio/mpeg" loop="false"></embed>


Yeap, posted it here using IE and it crashed Chrome.

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Last Edited by on Apr 22, 2011 12:52 PM
tookatooka
2323 posts
Apr 22, 2011
12:54 PM
Yeah, I think the problem is that Bronzewailer was trying to link to a wma file where all the others have been wav or mp3.

Looks like it's the wma that's causing the problem.
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nacoran
4049 posts
Apr 22, 2011
12:56 PM
<embed src="http://www.abc.com/anySoundfile.mp3" width="350" height="40" autostart="false" type="audio/mpeg" loop="false"></embed>

Yeah, here is the normal code. Okay, the next question is, does Arzajac's code let you play wma's?

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nacoran
4050 posts
Apr 22, 2011
1:00 PM
Trimmed

original code:
<embed src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26955323/funky%20blues%20trimmed.wma" width="350" height="40" autostart="false" type="audio/mpeg" loop="false"></embed>


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Last Edited by on Apr 22, 2011 1:06 PM
nacoran
4051 posts
Apr 22, 2011
1:02 PM
Okay, that seems to work. It doesn't crash me, even when I click it.

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tookatooka
2324 posts
Apr 22, 2011
1:09 PM
So, are we saying that it's best to avoid trying to embed wma files?
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nacoran
4053 posts
Apr 22, 2011
1:17 PM
You can embed wma files, but it seems it's better to embed them this way:

<a href=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26955323/funky%20blues%20trimmed.wma>Trimmed</a>

Rather than this way:

<embed src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26955323/funky%20blues%20trimmed.wma" width="350" height="40" autostart="false" type="audio/mpeg" loop="false"></embed>

I hate to say it, but some the files that seem to be having the most difficultly are coming from Dropbox. Maybe it's time to make a list of variables and do a thorough test. (And check the Chrome and Dropbox forums and with MacWebstieBuilders, and Windows too, I guess.) So, I guess the next step would be to ask people what file hosts they are or have tried using, what file formats, what embeding codes and what browsers people are using. I thought I'd fixed the Chrome auto start issue, but I can't find the code I used to work through it. (I do seem to remember it was a Russian site and it had something to do with the new HTML 5 standard.) Does that ring a bell with anyone?


Lol- and always remember, if you are using markup text to show a problem piece of HTML code and you edit the comment that you have to reset the markup text, because it disapears, leaving you with the ACTUAL problem code!
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Last Edited by on Apr 22, 2011 1:22 PM
tookatooka
2325 posts
Apr 22, 2011
1:32 PM
Sorry nacoran, kick up the arp! seems to have caused a lot of trouble for folks, what a shame.

With so many file formats available there are bound to be problems. I think Chrome hic-cups because the wma file wants to fire up the windows media player and Chromes security system doesn't like it.

Also, as we've noticed the thread takes a while to load once a few embedded sound files have been added.

Sorry you've been troubled by all this nacoran and thanks for your efforts in trying to sort it out.




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nacoran
4054 posts
Apr 22, 2011
1:50 PM
That's just the nature of the beast, Tooka. If it wasn't such an awesome thread I wouldn't care. I wonder if maybe there is an app out there that would let anyone add files to a playlist. I'm sort of thinking like what WalterTorre has, or at least used to have, with one player for a bunch of songs. If we could figure out a way for multiple people to be able to input multiple songs (in different formats) into one player like that it might speed up boot times, and maybe make posting quicker. Anyone know anything like that that would work for multiple users?

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nacoran
4055 posts
Apr 22, 2011
1:53 PM
Okay, so this seems to work, but auto starts...

<embed type="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26955323/funky%20blues%20trimmed.wma" width="350" height="40" autostart="false" type="audio/mpeg" loop="false">


and this seems to break it:

<embed src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26955323/funky%20blues%20trimmed.wma" width="350" height="40" autostart="false" type="audio/mpeg" loop="false"></embed>

I've got to head out, but I'll work some more on this later.

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Last Edited by on Apr 22, 2011 6:42 PM
Zadozica
88 posts
Apr 22, 2011
3:05 PM
Okay fellas, my head just exploded.
BronzeWailer
123 posts
Apr 22, 2011
3:24 PM
Sorry for all the trouble guys. I agree it is an awesome thread. The problems are just due to my ignorance on how to use a computer.

As I said on the kickupthearp thread, just delete my piece if necessary.
nacoran
4056 posts
Apr 22, 2011
6:04 PM
Bronze, the way I relinked it in your post stopped the problem, it just means there is a link to a player instead of actually showing a player. It's not you. It's an ongoing problem with audio support caused by different browsers and different hosts and different file formats. You actually posted it the way we suggest on the how to page, only you used a wma file, which for some reason, doesn't work that way. All this and the internet standards are being changed!

I think I've almost got it figured out. Once I do I'll post an update. :)


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Last Edited by on Apr 22, 2011 6:39 PM
nacoran
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Apr 22, 2011
6:40 PM







<embed type="audio/wma" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26955323/funky%20blues%20trimmed.wma" width="340" height="140" autostart="false" />

<embed type="audio/wma" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5193776/Posted%20to%20the%20internet%20do%20not%20move/Thumper%20Clip.mp3" width="340" height="140" autostart="true" />

<embed type="audio/wma" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5193776/Posted%20to%20the%20internet%20do%20not%20move/Alone.WAV" width="340" height="140" autostart="false" />

Okay, this works in Chrome for 2 out of 3. If I change the audio/wma tag to mp3 it plays but it auto starts.



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Last Edited by on Apr 22, 2011 6:52 PM
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Last Edited by on Apr 22, 2011 6:56 PM
jonlaing
229 posts
Apr 23, 2011
1:18 PM
The next version of this forum should definitely have a way to embed audio with the click of a button. A harmonica forum isn't really the place to be discussing HTML5 semantics. Additionally, it really shouldn't be on the forum users to learn HTML to embed media.

Just a side comment. Autoplay/autostart should always be set to "false". Could you imagine a page full of embedded songs that all started autoplaying?
nacoran
4083 posts
Apr 23, 2011
1:31 PM
Jonlaing, yes, I've had it happen! Chrome was having issues with autostart at one point where false and true were inverted. Yeah, an auto embed button would be awesome. It would have to have some intelligence though, to identify the file type, because there seems to be some issue with sequences of priorities that crash things depending on the file type. This was the code combinations that seemed to finally work in my browsers. (Chrome, Firefox, IE). I don't know if it works in Opera or Safari, let alone some of the more exotic browsers.

For MP3's

<embed src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5193776/Posted%20to%20the%20internet%20do%20not%20move/Thumper%20Clip.mp3" width="350" height="40" autostart="false" type="audio/mpeg" loop="false"></embed>

For WMA's

<embed type="audio/wma" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26955323/funky%20blues%20trimmed.wma" width="340" height="140" autostart="false" />

For Wav's

<audio src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5193776/Posted%20to%20the%20internet%20do%20not%20move/Alone.WAV" controls autobuffer>

<embed type="audio/wma" src="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5193776/Posted%20to%20the%20internet%20do%20not%20move/Alone.WAV" width="340" height="140" autostart="false" </embed>

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jonlaing
230 posts
Apr 23, 2011
4:09 PM
It's not terribly difficult to code something to have it figure out the file type and put the appropriate embed code in place.

What would probably be most effective would to have a flash player on the site. Then that could be wrapped with an <audio> tag for us iOS users. Should be pretty solid. Oh well, I'm sure whomever Adam has working on v2.0 of the forum has already considered all of this.


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