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tookatooka
2266 posts
Apr 04, 2011
2:40 PM
It's probably a good harp BUT! an orange comb? What on earth were they thinking?

They're making it look like a toy harp, I think it's a bad mistake. We like, wood and chrome and black and silver and big nuts.

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eharp
1266 posts
Apr 04, 2011
3:01 PM
i'm gonna let that one slide on by just so the moderators dont have to come out of the woodshed.
Todd Parrott
434 posts
Apr 04, 2011
3:09 PM
The orange comb isn't all that bad, but I don't like the name written in big letters across the back of the comb.
Rift
64 posts
Apr 04, 2011
3:40 PM
I might be alone on this, but I love the orange. I was going to paint my mic orange but I am afraid I will F it up.
tookatooka
2267 posts
Apr 04, 2011
3:57 PM
@Rift. If you painted your mic orange then you would F it up. I hate orange, it's one of the few colours I really dislike. It's made with red and yellow which are OK on their own, but mixed together, No!

It's funny because orange is the colour directly opposite blue on the artists colour wheel so to my mind if you like orange then it stands to reason that you can't like blue or "the blues" with an equal amount of passion.

Holy Sh*t! I've just realised what the colour of the band running down the left side of this page is. See, having orange in my sub-conscious makes me say nasty things.

OK, I'm outta here.
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Rift
66 posts
Apr 04, 2011
4:05 PM
I need to take some time to think now tooka. I love orange, I really do. I like blue, I really like the blues, but I love orange. What the hell is wrong with me. I didn't even know it was opposite blue on the wheel. I dont think I like blue anymore. I still like the blues though.
Rift
68 posts
Apr 04, 2011
4:17 PM
Ok, I thought about it and decided I love orange and blue and the blues. So do I paint it blue with orange stripes or orange with blue stripes?

Last Edited by on Apr 04, 2011 4:18 PM
tookatooka
2269 posts
Apr 04, 2011
4:21 PM
Do you know what colour you get if you mix blue and orange paint in equal quantities? Think about it.
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Rift
69 posts
Apr 04, 2011
4:30 PM
Good point. Shitty brown probably isn't the look I should be going for.
Zadozica
60 posts
Apr 04, 2011
4:34 PM
Mud, you get the color of mud as in Muddy Waters....

That is your connection to the Blues baby!
ElkRiverHarmonicas
625 posts
Apr 04, 2011
4:38 PM
I am selling them with black combs for an extra $9.

www.elkriverharmonicas.com
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7LimitJI
451 posts
Apr 04, 2011
4:39 PM
I quite like the harp.Pondering over buying some.

But answer me this:-
Which came first, the colour or the fruit??
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Rift
70 posts
Apr 04, 2011
4:45 PM
Anyone selling orange manji combs?
Aussiesucker
816 posts
Apr 04, 2011
4:57 PM
I like the orange colour. I have not seen one but I want one. Should be easy to locate in a bag!

Oh & my favourite colour is blue so the liking of blue does not mean I don't like orange. But I wouldn't like an orange car ie unless it was an outstanding performance vehicle like a V8 supercharged Commodore. But then I don't like blue vehicles either. Come to think of it all the cars I have purchased are always white.

Elk River> how much for an Seydel Orange A including postage to Oz?
ElkRiverHarmonicas
626 posts
Apr 04, 2011
5:13 PM
@Aussie, they are $59.95 plus $12 first class shipping to Oz, shipping is same regardless of number ordered. Total is $71.95.
You can contact me at Dave at elkriverharmonicas.com


As for cars, I like Orange ones:



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Last Edited by on Apr 04, 2011 5:22 PM
OzarkRich
430 posts
Apr 04, 2011
7:39 PM
I'm colorblind so I don't like orange; it looks brown to me, like wood combs, supposed "green" veggies, and 70% of everything else I see.

I was once engaged to a woman with red hair. We had dated for several months, spent the holidays together with my family, etc. We broke up. A few months later I was having lunch at a truck stop with my best friend. A woman walked up to our table who looked just like my ex-fiance and begged for money. It really caught me off guard freaked me out. After she walked off my friend asked what my problem was, so I explained. His response: "Obviously it wasn't her, she had brown hair instead of that fiery red hair your girlfriend had". I had no idea!
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boris_plotnikov
499 posts
Apr 04, 2011
7:46 PM
I like orange. But I dislike recessed reedplates, including seydel blues session. How harp (and my car and my clothes) looks don't bother me at all. Harp have to play, car have to drive, clothes are to protect from cold and rain.
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nacoran
3958 posts
Apr 04, 2011
8:11 PM
eharp, thanks for the restraint... I'm actually working on a goof song that sexualizes harmonica. It's always the elephant in the room when you look at the words we use to describe our tool, er, instrument, er...

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Rubes
268 posts
Apr 04, 2011
9:39 PM
Ok, I'm surprised no-one's mentioned this before but....I think the fact that the comb LOOKS like it's a cheap plastic job, with square type holes instead of opening up vertically all the way to the reedplates like the superior combs do!! The colour is ok by me, but it just does not cut the grade with those pissy little holes.... (my 2cents) :~)
nacoran
3959 posts
Apr 04, 2011
9:51 PM
With all the custom combs out there and all the customizing on the reeds Seydel will do I'm surprised they don't give you some options for comb colors. (They do have a brass colored cover option you can get on one of their harps.) You'd think plastic combs would be pretty easy to offer in a variety of colors. It could be useful for grabbing the right key harp too.

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Joe_L
1184 posts
Apr 04, 2011
10:00 PM
I like the orange color. I dislike the price.

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BronzeWailer
107 posts
Apr 05, 2011
1:48 AM
This thread reminds me of one of my favourite jokes.

Q: What's orange and sounds like a parrot?
A: A carrot.

Dad joke. Sorry.
SwampBluesTed
46 posts
Apr 05, 2011
9:11 AM
I love the orange comb, but hey.. I´m from Holland! :)

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silpakorn
59 posts
Apr 25, 2011
3:52 AM
@ tookatooka, funny I'm the completely opposite. I love it as soon as I saw it, last night on their website - simply because of how it looks and also ORANGE is my favorite color ( and I hate BLUE the most ). I never thought that any major company would come up with a model in orange now that seydel have this one I'd really like to try it ! Does anybody here have comment on this one yet ? - apart from it's color and a toy-like look ( which is why I like it ) . I tried to search for comment on this one but got nothing so far..
ElkRiverHarmonicas
660 posts
Apr 25, 2011
2:14 PM
Nate, I think I can clear up the comb color choice question, it's logistically impossible, they've enough stock as it is. If I were to have one of every Session made, just ONE in stock, I would have over 400 harmonicas. If I had just ONE of every favorite and Session, I would have nearly 700 harmonicas. THen there's the Session Steels, all the different 1847s in various tunings and keys. It would be really hard to do. Maybe the thing to consider would be to sell just the combs in different colors.
Somebody like me can get one and swap a comb out aftermarket, but you've still only got a choice of black or orange. I might be able to do white though, if I can locate any of the old Silver Plus combs.



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bigd
310 posts
Apr 25, 2011
2:56 PM
As a person that gigs a lot I'm grateful for the florescence for id purposes in my case. I have a low C and a low F# and they are very distinct. This distinction defeats any aesthetic grievance for me. At the end of the day comfort and quality are what matter to me. I have 2 yo twins that I have toyish harps for and the sessions are the antithesis of the toys. They are relatively heavy and substantial. Independent of the color and construction though my 2 are not quite responsive enough to depend on for prime shows and I'm tired (and linty pocketed) of sending harps out with checks to be optimized. Maybe i'll be reborn a craftsman with patience and time in my next life and will learn to tweak my own as I suspect these would be top notch if optimized....
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Gnarly
32 posts
May 13, 2011
12:03 AM
Well, I bought one of these,and I like it.
Has anyone been able to fit it into a TurboLid?
Will the plates fit other combs?
bluemoose
545 posts
May 13, 2011
2:51 PM
hee-hee-hee....

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Gnarly
33 posts
May 17, 2011
12:09 AM
I retuned it, it's now Melody Maker (except I didn't retune draw 9).
And it goes in my regular harp rotation.
One of the things I like about it is the tone--not raspy or bluesy.
Also I am hoping it will retain its gapping, still trying to get that right, the sweet spot where it doesn't choke, except when you want it to . . .
David, why are you in jail?
Bart Leczycki
28 posts
May 17, 2011
1:02 AM
Hi, I used Session Steel every day on my masterclass in Croatia. It's really cool harp, warm and round sound and great durability! Price is really good!
You could replace reed plates of course (and keep few bucks/euro in your pocket).
I love Seydel 1847 so I will change Session Steel covers to my favorite.

It could be interesing to make one big harmonica test: Crossover, Manji and Session Steel. What do you think?

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Last Edited by on May 17, 2011 1:04 AM
jim
825 posts
May 17, 2011
8:58 AM
@Bart:

and even more interesting to compare a USED crossover, manji, and session steel
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Icemal
12 posts
Jun 15, 2011
3:22 PM
I was searching for reviews about the sound of the Session Steel, but found a bit of a rant about the colour.

Orange comb doesn't bother me at all, and I will hopefully buy one soon.

Orange and blue do go together, at least in Hollywood.

Behold:

http://www.slashfilm.com/orangeblue-contrast-in-movie-posters/
Joe_L
1293 posts
Jun 15, 2011
6:49 PM
I like the orange comb

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HarpNinja
1476 posts
Jun 15, 2011
7:01 PM
@jim

You are not playing fair. The "used" harps would have to be played in identical fashion for an identical time and so on.

I've played a number of the stainless 1847 harps. Leaving personal opinion out, I don't buy the hype of the reeds lasting way longer and holding their tuning way longer than a well made brass harp. They are just as likely to crack or go out of tune. I am fairly certain there has been frequent reference (and I am not accusing Jim of this) that they will last for years, and never need tuning, etc. I call BS on that.

If you are an OB player, the brass is easier to work with on the Hohner harps and the OBs are less likely to squeal with just gapping. That isn't to say a custom Suzuki or Seydel won't work as well/better.
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jim
860 posts
Jun 16, 2011
12:44 AM
they go out of tune only when they break.
under normal playing conditions, steel does not have corrosion and does not change pitch.
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nacoran
4205 posts
Jun 16, 2011
12:55 AM
Steel and a couple other metals behave differently than brass. They have a certain range of motion below which they don't worry. If they stay under that limit (I have know idea if harmonica reeds do stay under that limit) they won't wear out. Titanium is in the same category.

As for corrosion resistance, stainless steel is very resistant to corrosion, but there are certain things that can make it more prone to rusting. If it's in contact with another material that does rust the rust can spread. A local jeweler had a problem with that. They had a stainless steel fountain display in their shop and the artist who made it didn't know how to handle it. It rusted out even although stainless steel normally doesn't rust.

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boris_plotnikov
562 posts
Jun 16, 2011
6:38 AM
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One of the main reasons why I went to the stainless steel reeds is I like not to worry about tuning, my seydel 1847 Bb is from 2007 and it's still in tune (once I make some little tuning). While I played Golden melodies it was PITA, I always carry tuning file with me and tune my harps every 2-3 gigs (BTW, I almost don't break reeds, as I'm very soft player, but retuning was often needed).

Stainless steel reeds need a bit different attack and they have different from brass response. First I try stainless steel I dislike it, but after playing 1847 as practice harp for a year I start loving them.

After gapping any harmonica can be playable for me, but only after perfect embossing any harmonica become good for me, no matter what brand.

Bart Leczycki
I'm not a fan of recessed reedplates, but after your rewievs I think I have to try Session steel.
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Last Edited by on Jun 16, 2011 9:47 AM
boris_plotnikov
565 posts
Jun 16, 2011
12:54 PM
HarpNinja
BTW Seydel are easier to customize. German silver is different material, than brass, it's easier to emboss. SS reeds are harder than brass, so if i overemboss slot it often enough to blow a bit and reed make its way!
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STME58
1 post
Sep 19, 2011
10:46 AM
I bought a Session Steel in Low D and I really like it.
I don't know if it is jut the key (the next lowest I have is a G Lee Oscar) or if it is the design. I was dissapointed that the 7 blow read failed in a week. I seem to have a problem with 7 blow but usually a harp lasts a couple of months before the 7 blow read goes.

I liked it well enough I got new reed plates but again was dissapointed when one of the plate screws stripped on assembly. It stiil works and sounds good. I like the way the low reeds keep ringing after you stop blowing. The color doesn't bother me, but it does remind me of a road construction barrier.

Last Edited by on Sep 19, 2011 10:53 AM


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