I locked the Close One thread. Guys, this is a harmonica forum. Play nice, and don't tread on Adam's creed. Politics and religion are two subjects that almost always rub someone the wrong way. If you can't keep those thoughts to yourself, at least find a proper forum-this isn't it.
Perhaps a 'religion / politics section or a misc section in the upcoming new forum would be an idea?
I know peeps say 'this isn't the place', but the thing is, we're all from different walks of life, different countries, different ideals and paychecks. Our 'common' is harmonica but putting limits to discussion mean we only get a little bit of knowledge about our fellow forum members.
The other thing is this place is called 'Modern Blues Harmonica'. The days of singing about 'he done drank my whiskey' or 'stole my woman' are still here, but many people get the blues over religion, politics, healthcare and all the things modern life throws at us.
So, how about the idea of a subsection? If people choose to go there, that'll be their choice and individual perpetrators (insults, bad lanugauge etc) could be dealt with on an individual basis (suspensions or bans).
I think the problem with that kind of subsection, is that it has to be moderated. I would not want to subject our moderation crew to post after post of flaming political tripe.
I agree it might be relevant to someone else's blues. I'd just rather hear it in their music and lyrics. I can get down with that.
Politely, open-mindedly, kindly, generously, compassionately, courteously, tolerantly, remembering that, as Stevelegh says, "we're all from different walks of life, different countries, different ideals" and *never* forgetting Rule No. 6.
Two politicians are having a meeting when they are interrupted by a man, shouting and stamping and one of the politicians says to him, “Remember Rule #6”. The shouting man is restored to calm and leaves. They are interrupted again by a hysterical woman and again the politician says, “Marie, remember Rule #6”. She is calm, apologizes and leaves. A third person enters and the same thing happens. The other politician says, “what is this Rule Number 6?” The politician says, “Rule Number 6 is ‘Don’t take yourself so g—damn seriously’”. The other politician says, “that’s a fine rule” and then asks, “what, may I ask, are the other five rules?” “There aren’t any.” ---------- MBH Webbrain - a GUI guide to Adam's Youtube vids FerretCat Webbrain - Jason Ricci's vids (by hair colour!)
regarding a special politics subsection, i would advise against it. there are a zillion other places to argue politics, and these discussions never go anywhere. when you invite this into your harp community, even as a separate section, you're only inviting in rancor and hard feelings that will carry over into the rest of it. i didn't even read the posts on the last thread because i knew i'd feel worse about many of you.
i've probably been involved in online communities far longer than most of you (since the 80's), and these things, in my experience, always play out ugly.
ymmv. except it won't.
Last Edited by on Mar 29, 2011 6:31 PM
Remember, you can always post links to your Facebook page and have discussions there, and there you can always unfriend someone if they get out of line. If it was close to 50/50 whether a politics or religion thread would go nuts or not it would be one thing, but it seems more like 95/5.
The problem with a forum is once somebody says something antagonistic it's hard not to answer back because it's just sitting there in the public record begging to be answered. You sit there, knowing the other guy is wrong, and he sits there knowing you are wrong. No one ever seems to post- I'm a ______ and I support ______. Instead they say this is why it's bad if you don't believe the way I do, and that begs an answer, so you either turn off the computer of you tell them why they are wrong and even if you do post a simple declaration of who you are so people know a little about you people take it as an invitation to argue you out of your core beliefs. Not everyone, but someone, and then your friends feel compelled to defend you and their friends feel compelled to defend them and pretty soon it's the Sharks and the Jets and someone is going home with a harmonica lodged in an uncomfortable place and a Ab tire.
Hmmm... hows that for a band name... Ab Tire!
Okay, rant over. :) Sometimes it's frustrating that we can't talk about these things but the internet is a funny place. You can look at it as limiting, or you can realize that a huge community of people of people, many of whom might not talk to each other at all in 'real life' manage to get along and hang out together in a huge group, sharing all sorts of stuff they might never get to share.
My Dad killed NAZI's. They deserved it. He was a kind man that suffered because he had to do this. We have similar in our midst today. Slavery of some sort is their goal.
Is this OT ?
People want to KILL harmonica players , and other musicians.
Is this "out-of-bounds" ? Or should we just discuss the merits of murdering spouses ?
My dad killed a few Nazi's too, but never was too cut up about it. One was in a bayonet fight, but his argument was that if he hadn't done it, the Nazi would have killed him.
But I don't understand what this has to do with anything.
I'd like to kill Mick Jagger when he plays the 5 draw with bad embrochure, but not literally. Does that count?
